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Post by Davie on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 2:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

Mac started a really good thread today and while I'm not as fussy about things going off topic as some people, it does seem a shame to drown out Mac's thread with music chat - so I think we'll have a music corner for us golfers (in addition to the forum-wide music section)

I know Kwini is keen on his music, often throwing musical references into his ballwasher topics (I remember one of his last efforts on the old site being entitled The Boys Are Back In Town, and the conversation going off into Thin Lizzy territory!

S_R (on the other thread) made a reference to "hating the Beatles" - discuss! Whistle

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Post by Diggers on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 3:47 pm

Plunky wrote:
Diggers wrote:The Stones may have written a few good songs but have written some absolute stinkers.
The Kinks may  have ...
The Who...
Hmm, look what happens when you stay together fir a long time. It’s just an opinion, it’s purely opinion as to what constitutes a stinker or indeed a good song.
In the court of popular opinion the Beatles clearly wrote a lot of good songs. There are probably 4 or 5 Beatles songs in my top 50, funnily enough most of them written by George Harrison.

Heard an interesting interview the other day -- Sean Lennon on Sirius radio's Beatles channel.  Sean's opinion was that george was the best songwriter in the group !

Well, Here Comes the Sun is probably my favourite song, certainly right up there, though I do marginally prefer the Nina Simone Version.
Something is probably in my top 5
While my Guitar Gently Weeps is around top 10, also really love My Sweet Lord (though try and avoid the religious connotation and just enjoy the melody)
Throw in Give me Love, Taxman, What is Life, Got My Mind Set On You (clearly not all Beatles song) and he's probably my favourite songwriter. Not saying that Lennon and McCartney didn't write some fantastic songs, but the ones I play over and over are the Harrison songs.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 5:10 pm

beninho wrote:I think music should be appreciated whether you like it or not. Pop music may not be your thing, but you should still be able to apprecit a good pop song, I stand by Dirty by Aguilera as a superb pop song, and Timberlake has produced sone great pop songs. To call it all rubbish is just narrow minded and closed.

Apart from jazz its pure sh#t.
And you were doing so well. Assume you're joking, but if not, suggest you go and listen to some of the greats. You, know, the sort of people with absolute mastery of their instrument(s) and have learnt their trade actually playing live, often with oodles of improvisation.
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Post by Diggers on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 5:34 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:I think music should be appreciated whether you like it or not. Pop music may not be your thing, but you should still be able to apprecit a good pop song, I stand by Dirty by Aguilera as a superb pop song, and Timberlake has produced sone great pop songs. To call it all rubbish is just narrow minded and closed.

Apart from jazz its pure sh#t.
And you were doing so well. Assume you're joking, but if not, suggest you go and listen to some of the greats. You, know, the sort of people with absolute mastery of their instrument(s) and have learnt their trade actually playing live, often with oodles of improvisation.

I also struggle with jazz, worst experience was spending what felt like a very, very long night at Ronnie Scotts. Absolutely no doubting the talent of the guys playing, unbelievable ability, just all ends up sounding a bit samey to my (admittedly highly untrained) ear. I've also found that a lot of jazz fanatics I've met definitely fall into the music snob category, which is another turn off.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 10:28 pm

Diggers wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:I think music should be appreciated whether you like it or not. Pop music may not be your thing, but you should still be able to apprecit a good pop song, I stand by Dirty by Aguilera as a superb pop song, and Timberlake has produced sone great pop songs. To call it all rubbish is just narrow minded and closed.

Apart from jazz its pure sh#t.
And you were doing so well. Assume you're joking, but if not, suggest you go and listen to some of the greats. You, know, the sort of people with absolute mastery of their instrument(s) and have learnt their trade actually playing live, often with oodles of improvisation.

I also struggle with jazz, worst experience was spending what felt like a very, very long night at Ronnie Scotts. Absolutely no doubting the talent of the guys playing, unbelievable ability, just all ends up sounding a bit samey to my (admittedly highly untrained) ear. I've also found that a lot of jazz fanatics I've met definitely fall into the music snob category, which is another turn off.
Yeah, don't disagree and not sure it's a coincidence that you get parodies of the "Nice!" variety. My dad was a big jazz fan and it took me a while (and would never have told him), but some of the music/musicianship is awesome. I don't like the tendency for the musical masturbation that sometimes goes on, but people like Oscar Peterson, Ella Fitzgerald etc were outstanding.
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Post by kwinigolfer on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 10:39 pm

Just to date me, I used to love quasi-jazz bands playing in big old London pubs, real Sultans Of Swing stuff.

(Would also say there's "musical masturbation" going on in almost every genre of music; most so-called "solos" at any rock concert can be self gratification of the worst kind - the best of course are fantastic.)

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Post by pedro on Sat 01 Dec 2018, 11:38 pm

Watched a movie about Billie Holliday. Waited till the end for him to show up.

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Post by beninho on Sun 02 Dec 2018, 9:04 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
beninho wrote:I think music should be appreciated whether you like it or not. Pop music may not be your thing, but you should still be able to apprecit a good pop song, I stand by Dirty by Aguilera as a superb pop song, and Timberlake has produced sone great pop songs. To call it all rubbish is just narrow minded and closed.

Apart from jazz its pure sh#t.
And you were doing so well. Assume you're joking, but if not, suggest you go and listen to some of the greats. You, know, the sort of people with absolute mastery of their instrument(s) and have learnt their trade actually playing live, often with oodles of improvisation.

Yes it was a joke, though I'm not sold on jazz at all, I can appreciate the skill of the musicians. Just looked at jazz24 top 100 songs. Checked out a few and take 5, sing sing sing I know and actually quite like. Sone of the other 13minute jazzathons not selling it to me. The girl from ipanema is also good.

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Post by beninho on Sun 02 Dec 2018, 9:06 am

My sweet lord by George Harrison, is one of my favourite songs, though influenced by it being on the radio in the operating theatre as my son was being cut out the wife.

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Re: The golfers' Music Room

Post by super_realist on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 7:28 am

Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

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Post by Diggers on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 8:38 am

super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


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Post by pedro on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 9:35 am

Regardless, “quality” is subjective. It has to do with your expectations.

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Post by McLaren on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 10:21 am

One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 10:51 am

McLaren wrote:One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.
10s, if not 100s, of millions disagree with you.
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Post by McLaren on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 10:54 am

They are wrong and don't understand what makes for good music.
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Post by Diggers on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 1:05 pm

McLaren wrote:One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.

Who bizarrely give musical pleasure to millions of people. I suppose they should be shot for that heinous crime.

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Post by McLaren on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 1:39 pm

Diggers wrote:
McLaren wrote:One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.

Who bizarrely give musical pleasure to millions of people. I suppose they should be shot for that heinous crime.

At this point is it not obvious that the masses are total morons?
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Post by Diggers on Mon 03 Dec 2018, 3:14 pm

McLaren wrote:
Diggers wrote:
McLaren wrote:One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.

Who bizarrely give musical pleasure to millions of people. I suppose they should be shot for that heinous crime.

At this point is it not obvious that the masses are total morons?

In this instance, not really.

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Post by super_realist on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 7:06 am

Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

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Post by Roller_Coaster on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 8:18 am

McLaren wrote:They are wrong and don't understand what makes for good music.

ha ha. Cap doffed. clap clap

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Post by Roller_Coaster on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 8:34 am

In other musical news - I am quite possibly an example of exactly the sort of cr@p attitude that I would probably slag off to death on this very thread.

"Oh such and such has sold out, their stuff is just dirge. However, their early stuff was, like really good yah, it's just tailed off now they've become popular"

Ladies and gentlemen - I give you Ed Sheeran, or more specifically almost exactly my attitude to Ed Sheeran.

I have +. It's very good. I dislike his current stuff.

Not because he's "sold out", probably mostly because I'm a bit of a hypocritical tw@t.

I also liked the old John Lewis ads, but now they're just crowd pleasing sell-offs.

And the space race, that's just a bit sh1t now.

And phones.

Bah. Humbug.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 9:00 am

McLaren wrote:
Diggers wrote:
McLaren wrote:One Direction and Ed Sheehan are objectively utter pish.

Who bizarrely give musical pleasure to millions of people. I suppose they should be shot for that heinous crime.

At this point is it not obvious that the masses are total morons?
Nope. There's only the one obvious from where I'm currently sat.
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Post by Diggers on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 9:21 am

super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

You do love the idea of being called a racist don't you. Take a look back on this thread about who keeps bringing the idea back...interesting.

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Post by Diggers on Tue 04 Dec 2018, 9:28 am

I’ve decided there should be no such thing as a guilty pleasure, if you enjoy it, just enjoy it. Especially when it’s something as utterly subjective as pop music.

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Post by super_realist on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 7:46 am

Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

You do love the idea of being called a racist don't you. Take a look back on this thread about who keeps bringing the idea back...interesting.

No, I just like exposing your lack of an argument. You've never demonstrated racism from me, yet make accusations. It's basically like calling me "poo-bum".

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Post by beninho on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 11:03 am

I'm pretty sure diggers has made it clear he has not called you racist. He gas also made it clear he doesn't know if you are or aren't racist, I would guess basically because he doesn't know who you are! Get over yourself.

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Post by Diggers on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 1:12 pm

super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

You do love the idea of being called a racist don't you. Take a look back on this thread about who keeps bringing the idea back...interesting.

No, I just like exposing your lack of an argument. You've never demonstrated racism from me, yet make accusations. It's basically like calling me "poo-bum".

I'd be more bothered about the fact that I have called you a bigot rather than I haven't called you a racist. Maybe that's a badge you wear with pride.
I think my only input into the whole Diane Abbot debate was to say I think she's probably an infinitely better person than you.

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Post by pedro on Wed 05 Dec 2018, 1:35 pm

There are many things we don’t know if you are either.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 7:59 am

Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:
Diggers wrote:
super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

You do love the idea of being called a racist don't you. Take a look back on this thread about who keeps bringing the idea back...interesting.

No, I just like exposing your lack of an argument. You've never demonstrated racism from me, yet make accusations. It's basically like calling me "poo-bum".

I'd be more bothered about the fact that I have called you a bigot rather than I haven't called you a racist. Maybe that's a badge you wear with pride.
I think my only input into the whole Diane Abbot debate was to say I think she's probably an infinitely better person than you.

The use of the word "bigot" is as poorly used as the word "literally" and "legend".



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Re: The golfers' Music Room

Post by Diggers on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 8:32 am

super_realist wrote:
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super_realist wrote:Stated?

I presume you mean slated. I'm being perfectly reasonable here. When was the last time I slated anyone for their music tastes? Is this going to be like the racist accusation in that you can't provide an example?


Only this week I think you told me to stick to X Factor, thereby making an assumption somehow your taste is better than mine. By saying that One Direction are popular but rubbish you are obviously saying that whoever likes them has no taste...or somehow has inferior taste to you. You've said much worse, if you want to live in denial that you haven't then that's just something else to add to your litany of psychological issues.
I'm really not quite sure how many times I have to say this, I've never called you a racist (or said that you aren't), you are however patently a small minded bigot. I've said that often enough. Really, really, don't think I can put that in simpler terms.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that One Direction and X-Factor are purveyors of quality music? It's possibly the most cynical and soul-less form of entertainment, manufactured purely for exploitation and the fact that 99% of it disappears without trace within months of winning the dying show goes to show it isn't made for durability. It's fine if you like it, but it doesn't make it good (or bad), but it does mean I can laugh at you for being a fan of entertainment aimed squarely at children and it doesn't mean I can't call it rubbish. You seem to think that declaring something as rubbish is making an absolute claim on it. IT'S MY OPINION, just like it's your opinion that I'm a bigot, but unlike you, I'm not going to try to attempt to  deny you your opinion.

Are you actually trying to tell me you NEVER call something rubbish without first qualifying it as your opinion? You're a teacher for goodness sake, use some bloody context and employ some comprehension for a change.

I'm not telling you they are purveyors of quality music, that's kind of the point.


So if I call it rubbish, what's your problem? Honestly, you round round terms like Bigot and Racist as accusations, but can't take someone having a laugh at your choice in music.
Plenty people have had a go at mine, I'm not crying about it. Why are you?

You do love the idea of being called a racist don't you. Take a look back on this thread about who keeps bringing the idea back...interesting.

No, I just like exposing your lack of an argument. You've never demonstrated racism from me, yet make accusations. It's basically like calling me "poo-bum".

I'd be more bothered about the fact that I have called you a bigot rather than I haven't called you a racist. Maybe that's a badge you wear with pride.
I think my only input into the whole Diane Abbot debate was to say I think she's probably an infinitely better person than you.

The use of the word "bigot" is as poorly used as the word "literally" and "legend".



This from the man who still thinks charisma and personality are the same thing. The use of the word bigot to describe you is absolutely correct.

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Re: The golfers' Music Room

Post by BlueCoverman on Thu 06 Dec 2018, 10:57 pm

RIP Pete Shelley gone at 63. The Buzzcocks 'Ever Fallen in Love with Someone' one of my all time favourite tracks and perhaps the best punk love song ever?

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Post by super_realist on Fri 07 Dec 2018, 8:02 am

Now they were a proper band.

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Post by Diggers on Fri 07 Dec 2018, 8:13 am

BlueCoverman wrote:RIP Pete Shelley gone at 63. The Buzzcocks 'Ever Fallen in Love with Someone' one of my all time favourite tracks and perhaps the best punk love song ever?

Certainly up there, a song many a teenager, boy or girl, could relate to.

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Post by super_realist on Fri 07 Dec 2018, 8:34 am

Orgasm Addict was the story of Mac's life.

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Post by JAS on Mon 10 Dec 2018, 5:04 pm

Re Pete Shelley, great shame, one of the few bands I never got to see live that I wanted to. Agree about Ever fallen in Love somehow manages to sound late 70s but also timeless as well.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 11 Dec 2018, 2:53 pm

BBC's 'Football Focus' was quite cool on Saturday. Nothing stated about Shelley, but Ever Fallen in Love playing in the background when they ran through the upcoming material they were going to have on.
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Post by beninho on Wed 12 Dec 2018, 8:12 pm

The mention of football focus made me think of the goal of the month music, which was life of riley, a great song. Anyway, I also found this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mHn7qR0IpN8

Yeboah!!!!

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