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Post by djcc2004 on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 1:02 pm

Right i want to see what peeps think of my following idea:

As HHH and HBK have both failed 2 times at taking the streak what if they decided to join forces in a handicap match against Taker. i know HBK is retired but i could see him being tempted for this kind of scenario.

i see it as no DQ and after a long match DX eventually batter taker, Sledghammers etc and finally get the win but have lots of near falls and really make it a long match with dx throwing the kitchen sink at him.

i know there are alot of taker fans on here who will hate this idea and want to see him retire 20-0 but at the end of the day wrestling is all about moments. and if taker can put his ego aside and let it go 19-1 for that one memorable moment that you can be sure would make every fan mark out big time and would make it an epic night.

the only problem i have with taker losing his streak at wm28 is that it could take away from the main event rock cena( just like hogan rock did before jerico and hhh)

anyway, thoughts????? idea

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Post by boomdangle on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 1:39 pm

can't see it as that would involve hhh and hbk saying were both weak and can't do it so have to have a handicap match against him which would damage them not taker.

Would tarnish there repuations as when they re-united dx for the 400th time against randy,ted and cody they was in the outnumbered position.

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Post by TwisT on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 1:49 pm

With respect, I think it is a terrible idea. The streak would be tarnished if two aging wrestlers finally took it. Plus for what reason would they want a match together? It basically says we would do anything to take the streak, even a handicap match.

The biggest issue I would have is the streak should be taken by an up and comer to elevate them and to "pass the torch" with Taker retiring honourably.

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Post by Mort on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 1:54 pm

What if instead of Nash or a.n.other kliq member interfering in the Punk v HHH match at Night of Champions, it was Undertaker who took out Punk.

He could say he gained new respect for HHH after their match at Wrestlemania and still has issues with Punk from their previous fued.

Somehow this could be played out over the next few months with Punk getting a shot at Taker at Wrestlemania.

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Post by TwisT on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:00 pm

Mort wrote:What if instead of Nash or a.n.other kliq member interfering in the Punk v HHH match at Night of Champions, it was Undertaker who took out Punk.

He could say he gained new respect for HHH after their match at Wrestlemania and still has issues with Punk from their previous fued.

Somehow this could be played out over the next few months with Punk getting a shot at Taker at Wrestlemania.

Possible but I think it will be Rock v Cena, Punk v HHH and Undertaker v ?????. Best bet at the moment would be Sheamus. I doubt it will be though. I hope it isn't Undertaker v HHH 2.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:07 pm

Personally I don't think they should end the streak because they've no way of knowing what the future will hold.

For example, if you let an up and comer end the streak who's to say that said up and comer won't then do a Brock Lesnar and leave a year later?

The streak should stay intact because it's become one of the biggest attractions (if not THE biggest) on the biggest pay per view of the year.

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Post by sodhat on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:13 pm

It's an argument I can understand Y2D2, but for me I think they need to pass the torch here and put someone over.

Yes, it will be a risk, but what is the point of the streak going off with the Undertaker when it could be used to propel new stars? I'm sure Taker himself would want to give back too, the biggest issue for me is picking someone who would run with it and not blow it.

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Post by The Awesome Giz on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:14 pm

No disrespect but its an awful idea, punk included would be terrible aswell.

Nash would be bad, Taker has admited in interviews he wants the streak to end, if it is to anyone its needs to be to a Brock Lesnar type guy someone who will dominate for years to come. I also don't get why everyone thinks it has to be 20-0, maybe its because its a nice round number, I'll live with 23-0. Personally I think his last match should be Cena purely because he has fueded with everyone else, and there are no more credible maineventers left. Apart from those he's faced.

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Post by Guest on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:30 pm

I reckon ADR maybe. The money is on Rock and Cena being for the title so ADR will obviously lose it before then and I reckon he will then start preaching it his destiny to end the streak

Either that or Y2J comes back and says he was ready to retire, but he wanted to prove one last time he was the best in teh world at what he does and wants to take the streak from Taker

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Post by djcc2004 on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 2:39 pm

boomdangle wrote:can't see it as that would involve hhh and hbk saying were both weak and can't do it so have to have a handicap match against him which would damage them not taker.

Would tarnish there repuations as when they re-united dx for the 400th time against randy,ted and cody they was in the outnumbered position.


well they obviously cant do it on their own as have both failed twice! so it would make sense them having to team up to do it and also builds taker up saying it would take 2 of the best in the business to finally put him down at mania

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Post by The Awesome Giz on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 3:44 pm

Still is a terrible idea though. Not being disrespectful.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 3:51 pm

I agree with Giz, while its commendable that you've took time to explain your idea, for me its just terrible and not even remotely possible or plausible

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Post by liverbnz on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 3:56 pm

djcc2004 wrote:
boomdangle wrote:can't see it as that would involve hhh and hbk saying were both weak and can't do it so have to have a handicap match against him which would damage them not taker.

Would tarnish there repuations as when they re-united dx for the 400th time against randy,ted and cody they was in the outnumbered position.


well they obviously cant do it on their own as have both failed twice! so it would make sense them having to team up to do it and also builds taker up saying it would take 2 of the best in the business to finally put him down at mania

But who benefits from this? Either result does nothing for anyone. If the streak is to end, and I don't think it should, there should be a genuine reason for it.

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Post by Stan Marsh on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 4:39 pm

Gotta agree with the consensus - not a good idea.

If it has to go - and I can definitely see a strong argument for 'theres no point him taking the streak with him' - then it has to be meaningful.

I would like to see him in a triple threat this year - keep it fresh, give an element of 'he could lose without being pinned' going into it but ultimately have him prevail - perhaps in with Punk and Trip? If to elevate 2 mid/upper-mid carders, perhaps even Zeke and Sheamus?

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Post by Kay Fabe on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 4:52 pm

I'd never give someone like Zeke The Undertaker, I'd have no problem giving him Sheamus though, at least he's talanted, charasmatic, mobile and agile, I personally think they'll go with Orton/Taker

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Post by User Name on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 4:53 pm

Undertakers ego?

He offered the streak to Orton.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 4:57 pm

He also offered it to Kurt Angle but Vince shot it down

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Post by HitmanOwl on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 4:59 pm

Id put barrett in but would taker allow it? Watch it be the miz,hope not!

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Post by Crimey on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 5:08 pm

I think it's fantasy booking there, I honestly don't think Michaels is going to come out of retirement, I think he'll be happy with how he went out.

I disagree that there is "no point in 'Taker taking the streak with him", it's his legacy in the WWE, he hasn't won too many championships but he has always had the streak, and I don't think there is anybody it would make sense to let end the streak. Give it to an up and comer and you risk wasting it, and give it to an already established star and it has been wasted again.

I'd rather see somebody attempt to overtake the streak with one of their own.

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Post by JoshSansom on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 5:13 pm

Given that Rock v Cena is already booked and there is potentially two championship matches to still create, does anyone else think that the Streak may not be defended this year giving them another 12 months to think up a good plan?

I would say if they have someone in mind get them to call the Undertaker out before this WM... something along the lines of saying the Undertaker has no one willing to take him on so I will, he doesn't respond and doesn't turn up.

As such the up and comer has the rub of being in a Taker WM linked storyline without the defeat - it gives credibility to them and they can then go on a strong run and at WM29 call Taker out again saying they are equals because he called Taker out last year and he wouldn't show his face etc. Taker can then appear and claim that the challenger is now worthy (getting him more over) and that they will do battle at last.

Either that or I have been watching too many kung fu films... master. Smile

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Post by psycho-gooner on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 5:31 pm

i know there are alot of taker fans on here who will hate this idea and want to see him retire 20-0 but at the end of the day wrestling is all about moments. and if taker can put his ego aside and let it go 19-1 for that one memorable moment that you can be sure would make every fan mark out big time and would make it an epic night.
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Ego? He said he would happily lose the streak to a young superstar

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Post by The Awesome Giz on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 9:44 pm

Takers repeatedly said he wants to lose it to a young star. That said I'de rather see Santino end the streak than a DX handicap match. Barrett would be a poor choice.

Like I said before it would have to be to the next Lesnar type guy, some one who'll dominated the company for years. Except not leave straight away.

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Post by JamesLincs on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 11:06 pm

how about one final kane run with mask? lets say kane retuns at the rumble and wins but instead of the title he wants the streak. tbh they ruined last years rumble anyway having adr win and have him in the show opener. plus the fact theres two main titles meaning at least one main event doesnt involve the rumble winner which has always been the point of the rumble.. anyway back to kane, he goes on a rampage.. i know weve seen it many times but maybe it could be different, new attire, mask returning, voicebox returning, bloodbaths, lights out, massive pyro, etc, etc? anyway, kane has been out a little while and is probably going to be for a little bit more yet so maybe kane tries to lose a few pounds for one last run that sees at wrestlemania not only take out his brother but possibly himself too?

thoughts?

if not kane i can only see the current contenders to be either sheamus, orton or cena but we know cena is already ruled out.

imo punk and jericho although credible just dont have that size, neither did michaels, but michaels is michaels if you know what i mean

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Post by The Awesome Giz on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 11:42 pm

Kanes more likely to retire before Taker.

Sorry guys I'm literally going to shoot down any ideas involving kane, punk, DX, big show or any experienced main eventer. Sheamus has already won the top belt so he doesn't need a streak win. I also think we only say Barrett because he is English.

I think they'll keep the streak intact, besides if you want to see the streak end buy a copy of Smackdown vs Raw 2011 theres a storyline to end it on there. You also get a masked kane aswell.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Fri 09 Sep 2011, 11:55 pm

They'll never give the streak to someone who hasn't proven they are main event material

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Post by psycho-gooner on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:03 am

Just imagine if they gave it to Punk Yahoo

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Post by MtotheC on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 11:04 am

I always have an issue with this kind of fantasy booking, I enjoying reading people's thoughts on how storylines might develop but this idea is pure fantasy.

I am a firm believer that the streak should be beaten and the torch passed however I do think the person breaking it will need to be an established star eg when hbk retired flair. I don't think taker will have his life's work tarnished by losing the streak to someone like wade or sheamus.

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Post by djcc2004 on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:19 pm

Some of you people really do make me laugh.... "i have an issue with fantasy booking" , "this is a terrible idea" , "it would never happen" " who would gain anything from this"

there are so many stuck up people on this forum naming no names who shoot down other peoples ideas. all the "big shots" on this site act like they work for WWE and personally know wwe stars "Takers repeatedly said he wants to lose it to a young star"- people on this site seem to think everything they read on the internet is fact.

"I always have an issue with this kind of fantasy booking, I enjoying reading people's thoughts on how storylines might develop but this idea is pure fantasy" - hmmmmmmmmm pure fantasy? i have an issue with people acting like wwe only go with sensible story telling. lets face it if i would of written on here that Stone cold steve austin would become ceo in the higher power storyline you would of shot me down, if i would of written that austin would of turned heel in his home town and aligned with vince at WM you would of shot me down, if i would of written that there would be an ecw wcw invasion story line you would of shot me down.

people need to understand that wwe like to use off the wall fantasy booking to keep people interested

CUE GETTING SHOT DOWN BY SITE BIG SHOTS...................

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Post by Crimey on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:56 pm

This is a site where people express their opinions, rather than just having a go and going all R-Truth on us, why not try and convince us that it is a good idea.

It would cheapen the streak completley if it was lost to HHH and HBK together in a handicap match, and I doubt the characters both those guys portray would make sense.

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Post by AberdeenSteve on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:58 pm

Wow, someone can't take criticism. Shocked

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Post by djcc2004 on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 1:07 pm

there is no point trying to convince you big shots that its a good idea.... iv read various posts on this site that you contsantly put peoples ideas down, you are all classic wwe fans - never happy with any booking!

i can take criticism, just not from bigshots who think they know it all !!

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Post by AberdeenSteve on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 1:19 pm

Yes, we are all massive big shots on here. We all think we know everything.

The fact is, why on earth would the WWE want to give the biggest selling point of Wrestlemania of the last 5 years to two retired wrestlers rather than an upcoming superstar? It makes no sense.

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Post by djcc2004 on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 1:51 pm

why would they want to give it to an upcoming star?? could an up and coming star really put on a 5* match at one of the biggest matches of the year. how could they follow the last 3 years of matches?

oh and yeah hbk retired, but did i miss somthing? when did HHH retire? doesnt he have a match in about a week at night of champions - maybe you dont all know it all haha!

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Post by Crimey on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 2:04 pm

djcc2004 wrote:there is no point trying to convince you big shots that its a good idea.... iv read various posts on this site that you contsantly put peoples ideas down, you are all classic wwe fans - never happy with any booking!

i can take criticism, just not from bigshots who think they know it all !!

Nobody has claimed they know everything, they have just stated their opinion that they don't think your idea is very good. This site is here for people to express their opinions, why post it up here if you didn't want people's opinions on it?

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Post by Bonesaw's ready on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 2:20 pm

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Surely anytime anyone writes 'I'd like a storyline to go this way....' is fantasy booking. I don't see the point in writing fantasy storylines myself (each to their own I guess) but I'm inclined to agree with dj2004 when he laughs at the 'this is fantasy booking' comments. Of course it is, and when you write '....and then the lights dim and wrestler X nails wrestler Y with a sledgehammer', that's fantasy booking too, no matter how plausible it sounds in your head.

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Post by JamesLincs on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 2:35 pm

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Post by djcc2004 on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 2:38 pm

invincibleILeak (CL-6WF) wrote:
djcc2004 wrote:there is no point trying to convince you big shots that its a good idea.... iv read various posts on this site that you contsantly put peoples ideas down, you are all classic wwe fans - never happy with any booking!

i can take criticism, just not from bigshots who think they know it all !!

Nobody has claimed they know everything, they have just stated their opinion that they don't think your idea is very good. This site is here for people to express their opinions, why post it up here if you didn't want people's opinions on it?

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im not annoyed at people not liking my idea its the big shots on this site who say things like "not even remotely possible or plausible" - how do they know? do they work for wwe? its that kind of arogant coment that pi%SSes me off.

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Post by Crimey on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 3:56 pm

Well that their own opinion, if they think it isn't possible or plausible then you can't get annoyed at them for expressing it, just as nobody else can get annoyed at you claiming it is possible.

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Post by MtotheC on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 4:03 pm

I'm sorry you seam to have take offence to some my comments, in particular the 'fantasy booking' remarks... But that's my right, to have an opinion on a thread thats posted on a public discussion forum, just like it's your right to post the article in the first place. You obviously wanted feedback as that's why you posted it, I don't claim to be a big shot or a know it all I just have an opinion and call it the way I see it, if you don't agree then that's your opinion! As I said in my previous response, I like to read people's thoughts on how storylines progress and develop but your idea was a little to far fetched for my taste and my reply was to that effect, no offence was ment but if you can't stand the heat get out of the public discussion forum!

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Post by AberdeenSteve on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 5:10 pm

I think you need to lighten up a bit mate, this is a forum and you are having a moan about how people think they are 'know it alls'. It is called having an opinion, mine and yours are miles apart. I simply said that I didn't see your idea as feasible and wouldn't make any sense. Silly me to forget that I am such a know it all.

And as for Trips, he has wrestled twice in how many months? He is practically retired.

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Post by JoshSansom on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 5:32 pm

I can't see a combined effort being done because: a) it would make HHH and HBK look weak b) the match would be awful c) there would be no $ value to the company doing that.

I think that unless they find a valid reason to that they will not have the streak broken as it has huge commercial value in its current form. Whether or not Mark Calloway would agree with this remains to be seen.

If it is to be broken it will be done by a main evener who isn't quite at the level of a John Cena. I still think that Taker will skip this WM and be at WM29. By that point guys like Miz, Sheamus or Barrett could be credible enough but not be huge enough so that they could use it as a springboard.

If it were happening now I am sure that Orton would beat him to cement himself at the company's top performer.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:44 pm

djcc, you've posted your idea up, fair play to you, you had an idea and you took the time to jot it down, you've chosen to post it up on an open forum, people are entitled to express their opinions on it good or bad, while most peopke agree its not a good idea I think most gave decent polite replies, most of us all love a booking thread though so don't let it put you off from posting future ideas

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Post by Kay Fabe on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 8:50 pm

I also totally agree with Josh in that unless there is a good reason to break the streak it shouldn't be broken, right now I can only think of two guys who should break it and why, either Orton to announce himself as the new +1 babyface or John Cena as part of a huge shock heel turn

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Sat 10 Sep 2011, 10:36 pm

I think Heath Slater should be the man to end the streak. After all he is a one man rock band.

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Post by Jammy31 on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 10:35 am

Shot 21 LCFC wrote:I think Heath Slater should be the man to end the streak. After all he is a one man rock band.

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Post by Nay on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 11:43 am

That gimmick worked for Jeff

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Post by Brady12 on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 2:27 pm

Terrible idea on so many levels....

Michaels is retired

Why have a 2 on 1 match for the streak? It makes no sense. DX look weak having to join forces to beat Taker & it's hardly worth bragging about if you need two men to do the job


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Post by robbo277 on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 5:23 pm

I really like the idea of having Undertaker retire with the streak in tact and then compete by building a rival streak. The seeds have already been sown with the Miz being 2-0 at Wrestlemania (ignoring his dark match loss at WM25, which WWE has). Maybe if Miz gets up to 5-0 he could fight Undertaker in a streak vs streak match? I know that wouldn't be able to take place for 3 and a half years (to let Miz build his streak up), but if Taker is retired he could come back just for a couple of months.

That way, if WWE sees something special in someone they can earmark them for a WM streak. Then, if that person gives 20-odd years of service then they can beat Undertaker's streak that way, once they've properly earned it.

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Post by JoshSansom on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 5:32 pm

robbo277 wrote:I really like the idea of having Undertaker retire with the streak in tact and then compete by building a rival streak. The seeds have already been sown with the Miz being 2-0 at Wrestlemania (ignoring his dark match loss at WM25, which WWE has). Maybe if Miz gets up to 5-0 he could fight Undertaker in a streak vs streak match? I know that wouldn't be able to take place for 3 and a half years (to let Miz build his streak up), but if Taker is retired he could come back just for a couple of months.

That way, if WWE sees something special in someone they can earmark them for a WM streak. Then, if that person gives 20-odd years of service then they can beat Undertaker's streak that way, once they've properly earned it.

Good idea though they did that with Edge (who was about 7 unbeaten at the time) when they faced each other. The issue is that I can't see them being able to build a streak up long enough to be credible enough to rival him before Taker is truly ancient.

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Post by robbo277 on Sun 11 Sep 2011, 5:41 pm

That's the only problem, it would be nice if Taker retired on 20-0 and a new guy got to 20-0 and they fought each other, but it's completely in practical. What I meant is that they could overtake Taker's streak and therefore "beat" it (without beating the Undertaker).

This idea was proposed on this thread by invincibleILeak (CL-6WF), btw, so credit to him.

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