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Post by anu_d on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 21:55

who is the most beautiful of them all ??

I categorize pace bowlers' actions into 3 categories:

1) Efficient but Unspectacular Types: Walsh, Roberts, Botham, Ambrose, Garner, Gillespie.......churning the windmill.......nothing too distinctive, but efficient--biomechanically and interms of results.

2) Awkward action types: Malinga, Rumesh Ratnayke, Waqar, Thomson, Patterson.....shoulder powered, gawky, biomechanically not perfect, generally raw pace, lacking longevity....but effective whilst they last.

3) Beauty and Grace the floats like a butterfly stings like the bee of cricket.....style, grace, beauty, rythm, flair, potent and long-living......Imran, Hadlee, Kapil, Akram, Donald, Gough, Anderson.....

I must be missing a few ( quite a few names) on those lists.....but in the beautiful action category......none comes close to Imran Khan.

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Post by Demon Racer on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 21:57

Allan Donald for me, but hey I'm slightly biased.

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Post by Fists of Fury on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 21:58

Good thread, anu_d.

Anderson would have been one of my suggestions, I love how you've called it the float like a butterfly sting like a bee action, too, very fitting and a great description!

I'd add McGrath to the first category, Tait/M Johnson to the second and possibly Steyn to the third.

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Post by Guest on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 21:59

your missing out dennis lillee. once his action was re-modelled after his injury, it was very good to watch.

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Post by anu_d on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:02

Fists of Fury wrote:Good thread, anu_d.
I love how you've called it the float like a butterfly sting like a bee action, too, very fitting and a great description!


they used that for Mohhamed Ali

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Post by Leff on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:04

For beauty and grace, it was Michael Holding.

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Post by anu_d on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:06

Leff wrote:For beauty and grace, it was Michael Holding.

yes...the rolls Royce...how did i forget him Shocked

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Post by Guest on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:07

Holding and Lillee, once his action was remodelled to prevent injury.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:47

Michael Holding for beauty and grace, that is a bad miss anu Wink

Shaun Pollock would probably be in the first category too I guess...

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Post by Fists of Fury on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:56

anu_d wrote:
Fists of Fury wrote:Good thread, anu_d.
I love how you've called it the float like a butterfly sting like a bee action, too, very fitting and a great description!


they used that for Mohhamed Ali

I know mate, that's why I liked it, I'm boxing mad Wink

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 22:59

could've left out the word "boxing" in your previous post Fists Wink

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Post by Hoggy_Bear on Thu 27 Oct 2011, 23:08

Larwood, Lindwall, Trueman all had model actions (although Larwood and Lindwall's arms may have been a little low)

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Post by JDizzle on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 00:05

Out of modern ones, I enjoy Steven Finn's. He looks a bit awkward running up and his action looks a tiny bit forced, but it is incredibly repeatable and any bowler who gets it down at 90mph and over without looking like they are making too much effort is great to watch!

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Post by anu_d on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 07:38

JDizzle wrote:Out of modern ones, I enjoy Steven Finn's. He looks a bit awkward running up and his action looks a tiny bit forced, but it is incredibly repeatable and any bowler who gets it down at 90mph and over without looking like they are making too much effort is great to watch!


steve finn reminds me of Shane Bond...clean, smooth and fast...really fast.
there is no way Bresan or even Broad as a bowler should play ahead of Finn......except on green seaming tops that add undue bite to the two Bs making them appear more potent than they would be on average pitches....and nullifying the difference between them and Finn.

actually Tremlett( if fit), Finn and Anderson should be the first choice seamers especially when they play in subcontinet......weakens the batting a bit.....but bowlers must be picked primarily for their bowling abilities.


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Post by anu_d on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 07:43

In my times the best actions I have seen:

Lef arm seamer....Akram....beauty, grace in motion yet deadley......followed by a graceful but not so successful Alan Mullaly.


Spinner....Warne the most smooth legspinner and Bedi the SLA.

the ugliest spinner has been undoubtedly Paul Adam of SA.

a young Imran...with his open chested delivery stride and the leap...looked like a beautiful stallion in full gallop.

Donald .....the cleanest and perfect actioned fastbowler.....and Anderson the smoothest in contemporary cricket.

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Post by anu_d on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 07:51

[quote="Fists of Fury"]
anu_d wrote: I know mate, that's why I liked it, I'm boxing mad Wink


ohh...that explains your nick-name Very Happy

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Post by ShankyCricket on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 08:02

Shane Bond-beauty and grace

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Post by Stella on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 09:05

I would lob McGrath and Akram into the first category.
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Post by pensacric on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 13:00

Alan Donald for me. He had that lovely and smooth action with a great leap. There was no jerking or akward movements.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 14:00

Lance Cairns and Chris Harris for category 2 - bowling off the wrong foot always looks awkward (especially when it's me doing it).
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Post by Leff on Fri 28 Oct 2011, 17:14

Sobers was quite graceful.

Keith Miller, I read, generated considerable pace with short run-up.

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Post by anu_d on Sat 29 Oct 2011, 09:10

Kiwireddevil wrote:Lance Cairns and Chris Harris for category 2 - bowling off the wrong foot always looks awkward (especially when it's me doing it).

wrong foot reminds me of a Pakistani left arm seamer who bowled off the wrong foot...sohail tanveer ?

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Post by hodge on Sat 29 Oct 2011, 14:33

JDizzle wrote:Out of modern ones, I enjoy Steven Finn's. He looks a bit awkward running up and his action looks a tiny bit forced, but it is incredibly repeatable and any bowler who gets it down at 90mph and over without looking like they are making too much effort is great to watch!

agree my mind immediatley thought Finn when i read this

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Post by Guest on Sat 29 Oct 2011, 21:38

Im gonna do 3 for each section

1. Ian Botham, Dale Steyn, Zaheer Khan

2.Murali,Paul Adams(hate seeing it),Malinnga

3.Holding,Lillee,Anderson

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Post by Biltong on Sun 30 Oct 2011, 12:16

Where would you guys place Morne Morkel, he doesn't look ungainly to me.

So is it efficient or graceful?
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Post by anu_d on Sun 30 Oct 2011, 15:32

biltongbek wrote:Where would you guys place Morne Morkel, he doesn't look ungainly to me.

So is it efficient or graceful?

he is in category 1 to me

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Post by Djoker is in Nadal's head on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 00:02

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Post by Stella on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 09:10

I think Walsh belongs in the third category.
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Post by Galted on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 09:45

Best action I ever saw had to be Franklyn Stephenson, ugliest was David Pryke.
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Post by Fists of Fury on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 09:52

Welcome to the board, galted. How'd you hear about us?

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Post by Galted on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 09:56

Thanks FoF, followed 606 for years & 606 v2 since its demise - always been on the verge of registering.
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Post by Fists of Fury on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 09:58

Good stuff, glad you decided to join in, new posters are always welcome.

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Post by Djoker is in Nadal's head on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:41

Looking at fast bolwers, Shoaib and Waqar had some nice action going for them. As a fast bowler Waqar rates as one of the best.


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Post by Djoker is in Nadal's head on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 10:45

Fists of Fury wrote:Good stuff, glad you decided to join in, new posters are always welcome.

Where was my welcome note? Crying or Very sad

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Post by Djoker is in Nadal's head on Mon 31 Oct 2011, 11:02

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand on Tue 01 Nov 2011, 17:37

Without a shadow of a doubt, Holding had the most elegant action of any quick bowler. He was so smooth that he never looked anywhere near as quick as he really was, simply because it seemed so effortless.

Imran Khan's action has always seemed majestic to me, but I'm not sure if that's because the action itself is strong, or simply because it's Imran.

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Post by liverbnz on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:00

Brett Lee for me. Wonderful action.

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Post by jro786 on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:25

what abou zaheer khan, srinath, munaf patel, sreesanth, nehra, ishant sharma?

these need to get a mention
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Post by ShankyCricket on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:30

Srinath had a pretty good action thumbsup

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:35

jro786 wrote:what abou zaheer khan, srinath, munaf patel, sreesanth, nehra, ishant sharma?

these need to get a mention

Sreesanth's action is nothing special. Sharma's action always looks a bit awkward to me. Zaheer has a good action, but stockier bowlers never look graceful, no matter how good their action is. Srinath had a nice action, but not up there with the likes of Holding.

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Post by Stella on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:36

Kapil Dev's was pleasant.
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Post by ShankyCricket on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 12:38

Zaheer and Munaf's actions would be in the first category IMO.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 23:07

Holding has to be the best I've seen.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Wed 02 Nov 2011, 23:34

Holding "whispering death" - sheer beauty. Hard to argue with you on that one Corporal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eavvC0Hjw1U

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Post by guildfordbat on Thu 03 Nov 2011, 00:00

Smashing link, Mad for Chelsea.

Agree with you, Corporal, Jeremy Beadle and others about Holding in the strongest possible terms.

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Post by anu_d on Thu 03 Nov 2011, 19:50

jro786 wrote:what abou zaheer khan, srinath, munaf patel, sreesanth, nehra, ishant sharma?

these need to get a mention

all category-1 IMO

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