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Post by Guest on Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:18 pm

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...and this is coming from a Liverpool fan.

Liverpool 1 Wigan Athletic 2.

Lets be honest here whilst this result was somewhat of a surprise it was in no way a shock. Bar the victories over Newcastle and Everton we have been pathetic at home. Uninspiring, insipid and laboured. For you younger posters on these boards Anfield was once something of a fortress. Not any more.

It's over 20 years since we won a league title and bar a couple of second place finishes we have never even really contested. The term 'also-rans' springs to mind. I don't buy into all this poppycock about winning the Carling Cup being the indicator of a successful season. Utter claptrap. Fans of the top, top teams pour scorn over the League Cup and label it Micky Mouse and so they should. Their sides have bigger fish to fry. The Carling Cup final is a day out at Wembley and nothing more...unless you are a mid table PL club or a Championship side.

I have undeniable respect and admiration for Kenny Dalglish as a man and a former player but he's showing he's just not up to the job. I was all for him stepping in for the remainder of last season after Roy Hodgson's sacking last winter but had my reservations over him taking the post permanently. Of course he could turn all of this around and make us the force we once was. Perhaps he deserves the benefit of the doubt?

You could say in Kenny's defence that you can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. The squad, quality wise, is a million miles away from even challenging the top four. Money has been made available and it's been by and large wasted. 35 million quid for Andy Carroll. We'd do well to get a third of that back when he's finally offloaded. What did Stuart Downing cost? 20 million? Is it any wonder managers look abroad for top class footballers when they come at a snippet of the price?

So here we are. We could go on to win the F.A cup and suddenly everything looks rosy in the garden again. I'd take numerous early domestic cup exits to see us competing for the title and playing Champions League football season after season. But the fact remains that we are no nearer the cream than we were when Graeme Souness was running us into the ground. I wonder if Julian Dicks would get into the current side?

So am I being the ultimate pessimist or just calling it as it actually is?

Liverpool Football Club. Always a big name and once a great team.

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Post by liverbnz on Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:02 pm

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Post by Guest on Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:19 pm

liverbnz wrote:Freek Show, again I never said Lucas was the missing piece or even hinted that he was. I said we missed him, which we have. We weren't challenging for the title, but we were in challenging for top 4 form. Since he got

Don't get me wrong liverbnz and I wasn't digging at you in particular but I have heard this Lucas argument from a few mates and it grinds on me a little. Have we fallen that far that we are reduced to bemoan the injury of one of our bit part players? I just wonder that if it wasn't Lucas that got injured would the excuses stem from another player out of action?

There's no doubt that he's improved as a player over the past 18 months but it's all relative.

In lucas' defence I do believe he has, at times, been made a scapegoat simply beacuse is a) a Benitez signing and b) an easy target being a slower starter for the club if you know what I mean?

That said the problem lies beyond Lucas not being available for selection. Just my opinion. And I am by no means an expert!




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Post by liverbnz on Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:24 pm

Freek Show, again I never said Lucas was the missing piece or even hinted that he was. I said we missed him, which we have. We weren't challenging for the title, but we were in challenging for top 4 form. Since he got injured, we've been in bottom 6 form.

Jay Spearing and Lucas Levia are not like for like either. They play the same position, but play it entirely differently. Lucas relies on his reading of the game in order to intercept and tackle to regain possession whereas Spearing only really harries and hustles but will rarely regain possesion of the ball himself. Lucas tends to play short passes and one-twos to create space and set up attacks, Spearing tries to spread the play quickly with longer balls, often to the wingers.

There won't be major changes at Liverpool this summer either, that much has already been made clear. You can't tear up ur plan every season just because it hasn't worked exactly as you might have wanted. It works rarely in football and usually only when you have unlimited amounts of cash and even then Man City didn't qualify for the CL in their first bankrolled season, they built it up bit by bit with players like Barry, Lescott and Milner, then on to Tevez, De Jong and Kompany and finally to Aguero, Toure and Nasri. We don't have oil men either. Yes we spent 100m in the last 12 months, but not before selling 70m and reducing the wage bill a fair bit. Effectively we've added 30 million to a squad that was 12th and out of both domestic trophies when Dalglish took over last year. This league season has been disappointing but we can't just rip up the blueprint every year and expect to luck into the magic formula. It doesn't work like that.

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Post by liverbnz on Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:28 pm

Sorry must have hit send half way through my last post.

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Post by lorus59 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:54 pm

So Liverpool is 16 points from a top 4 spot but only 14 points from a relegation spot. Progress?

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Post by PaulHv2 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:14 pm

We where poor today, however had Carroll scored and not decided to audition for the GB diving team, the ref given the penalty for a blatant hand ball by Simpson, and the linesman done his job for the second goal when Cisse was miles offside it would have been closer.

I think that's too much to hope for though Laugh
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Post by Liam on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:22 pm

Cannot believe I just witnessed Kenny saying that Carroll didn't dive, saying he was struggling to keep his balance anyway, so the yellow was harsh. He's making himself out to be an idiot, there's protecting your players, then there's defending a blatant dive. God help what he would have said if the other team's player had done that. I'm a United fan, and believe it or not I have massive respect for Kenny, even as manager, considering what he went through with Hillsborough, he should be given allot of credit for carrying on as he did. But now he is losing credibility with some of his post match comments.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:31 pm

I didn't see the post match interview with Dalglish but if (after seeing the reply?) he's maintaining that it wasn't a dive..well...what can be said?


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Post by drsambo1928 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:49 pm

Liverpool will be relegated in afew years. Like Leeds and Newcastle. Its a bold statement to make but I can see it happening.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:00 pm

With the owners we have I doubt that will happen. I'd stick money on it now that Kenny will not be manager of Liverpool next season. They have already had meetings with him and Comoli this week about what's going on with the team.

You only have to look at the way the ran their baseball franchise to show they are winners, Kenny was appointed as a short term measure and I'm 100% sure of that, however a very strong finish to the end of last season saw them keep him on, but with recent results and form their trigger fingers won't be stationary for long.
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Post by drsambo1928 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:04 pm

It's more of a feeling they will get relegated. I can see it happening, watching the last day of the premiership and Jeff on Sky Sports news cutting to a shot of Anfield and the desolute supporters.

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Post by Crimey on Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:53 pm

I think that a big problem is that because earlier in the season when we were playing well but simply not getting the results it has left the confidence of the players and more importantly the manager totally low.

Game after game, Dalglish has seen his team come within a post or crossbar or magnificent goalkeeping save of a win. But the actual build up has always been top class, and I honestly think that for the most part, Dalglish's selections and judgements for footballing matters have been top notch.

Understandably, confidence is low because the problems aren't the things that Dalglish can make a real difference with short-term changes, this lack of confidence in the manager leads to a lock of confidence in the players and then kaboom.

Once again we saw Liverpool be easily the better side for the first 20 minutes or so and then conceding a goal and just collapsing. This has been getting steadily worse across the season because it has become so frequent it's unbelievably demoralising, that's just as a fan, I can't even begin to comprehend how demoralising it must be for a player or manager.

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:13 pm

I might be wrong but Dalglish seems overly protective of his players and that has made them less disciplined and professional. He is also not very good at identifying good players to buy. There appeared to be a new manager response (an upturn in form), but that has now disappeared and what remains appears to be an "average" manager who is maybe a little passed his sell by date.

He had been out of the game for some time before being brought back into management initially on a temporary basis, and then more permanently. I'm not sure it can be said he has bought wisely in the transfer market.

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Post by dondelero on Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:07 am

Yesterday Liverpool appeard to be playing like a team thinking of their holidays. They did start well at Newcastle but after Cisse's 1st goal, they probably thought is it worth it?. Carroll actaully played quite well for his time on the pitch but embarrassed himself by diving as did KK for trying to excuse it. Also Perch's reaction was a disgrace and his manager should have a word with him because Reina hardly touched him although his own actions were stupid too.

It was a little sad to see Liverpool in that state because no matter what they are still Utd's only English rival in relation to history and class(notwithstanding the handling of the Suarez incident). When the pressure starts to build normally KK walks so it would probably be of no suprise to Liverpool fans if he is gone at the end of the season as manager.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:20 am

martyr_94 wrote:Cannot believe I just witnessed Kenny saying that Carroll didn't dive, saying he was struggling to keep his balance anyway, so the yellow was harsh. He's making himself out to be an idiot, there's protecting your players, then there's defending a blatant dive. God help what he would have said if the other team's player had done that. I'm a United fan, and believe it or not I have massive respect for Kenny, even as manager, considering what he went through with Hillsborough, he should be given allot of credit for carrying on as he did. But now he is losing credibility with some of his post match comments.

Kenny has been, frankly, appalling for Liverpool. He is trading off his name and history with the club but has been a managerial car-wreck. His handling of the Suarez affair was a PR disaster and if it wasn't for the more savvy US owners would've continued on for much longer. Carroll's dive was a joke and indefensible, but Kenny's handling of it was pathetic and he and the club are worse for it. I don't expect him to openly criticise his players but managers like Fergie, Wenger or Mourinho would either deflect it by turning attentions to something else or come out with the old "Didn't see it" line. Yes, it's rubbish, we all know it, but it's better than defending the indefensible.

The season is beyond repair now IMO, either sack him now and try get a small 'new manager' bounce in the last half-dozen games or give him till the end of the season for sentimentality sake. His record is considerably worse than Hodgson's (who never went on a run like 6 losses from 7 games, from memory) and was not offered such blinkered ignorant protection.

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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:48 am

Pardew is a mongo, how can he say that handball was'nt a pen. That was a blatant handball, penalty and red card that would have changed then game and then Cisse was about 12 yards offside for his second goal. The game was decided by two weak homer officials. End of.
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:57 am

Best team won. End of.

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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:00 am

dublfcynwa wrote:Pardew is a mongo, how can he say that handball was'nt a pen. That was a blatant handball, penalty and red card that would have changed then game and then Cisse was about 12 yards offside for his second goal. The game was decided by two weak homer officials. End of.

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Bitter much? Thanks for the £41million.

If you bothered to watch the replays and the analysis after the match, you'd see that neither the ref nor the linesman had any view of the incident. Even so it was 50/50.

You were shocking, you didn't create one clear cut chance and the only decent attempt you had, your world class number 9 tried winning a pen for instead of slotting it in the net. You deserved to lose. Cisse wasn't offside in the second phase of the build up, which is what the rules state.

Get over it. Oh, and mind the gap.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:27 am

That second phase is rubbish and a very stupid rule. The pass from Ba went through Ben Harfas and Flanagans legs but nobody else touched it, should have been offside but it's not like it made a massive difference.

Not sure how you could say the pen was 50/50, clear movement of the arm to the ball being showed on replays but I agree the ref or linesman couldn't see.

Reina was daft to give Perch the chance to go down like a complete muppet, similar to Toite against Sunderland a few weeks ago, next to no contact but go down and get a fellow professional sent off. It's a disgusting side of the game, it's diving at the end of the day a form of cheating which appears to have become acceptable now.

Bit harsh saying Liverpool didn't create a clear cut chance as well, Carrolls was a clear cut chance but wanted to see if he could replace Tom Davey in the GB diving squad, and then Perch cleared a Suarez effort off the line after Krul flapped at a high ball. Newcastle have over achieved this season, next season is a real acid test if you start to fall away then the vultures will hover around christmas and players like Cabaye, Cisse, Toite, Ba, Krul will be snapped up by bigger sides.
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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:31 am

King Beer wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:Pardew is a mongo, how can he say that handball was'nt a pen. That was a blatant handball, penalty and red card that would have changed then game and then Cisse was about 12 yards offside for his second goal. The game was decided by two weak homer officials. End of.

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Bitter much? Thanks for the £41million.

If you bothered to watch the replays and the analysis after the match, you'd see that neither the ref nor the linesman had any view of the incident. Even so it was 50/50.

You were shocking, you didn't create one clear cut chance and the only decent attempt you had, your world class number 9 tried winning a pen for instead of slotting it in the net. You deserved to lose. Cisse wasn't offside in the second phase of the build up, which is what the rules state.
Get over it. Oh, and mind the gap.


http://spiffyd.hubpages.com/hub/Soccer-offside-offences

Clearly you dont even know the rules of football if you think that was'nt offfside. It can only be a second phase if someone else actually touches the ball, nobody else touched it, it was at least 10 yards offside so please go and look at rule book before posting such nonsense in future, the link above will show you that you are wrong.
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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:41 am

It must've touched someone. Get over your bitterness, you just come across as a sore loser.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:46 am

Ben Arfa did touch it, making Cisse onside.

At least that's what my fantasy football points say.

Pardew said the rule is a nonsense, but at present IT IS the rule. So get over it

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:49 am

Agree was a definite pen, impossible to say otherwise, though given it was no more blatant that Suarez in the WC I'm glad the repulsive little bar steward was on the wrong end of such a decision.

Not as convinced on the offside, rules are confusing and maybe my knowledge has been left behind a little, but on the whole active v inactive interpretation I don't think he was active when the first ball was played (when he was in an offside position) and by the time he became an active part of play he was no longer offside, therefore the goal deserved to stand.

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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:50 am

Hampo, Perch did milk it, but it was a stupid reaction from Reina over an attempt to time waste.

Tiote did take a whack against 5under1and, but his reaction was well delayed.

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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:56 am

It did not touch anyone, look at the replays its one of the worst decisions ive seen in years and im only making the point that we were hard done by twice in the game with massive decisons that both went in your favour. In other words the official bottled it.
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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:58 am

dublfcynwa wrote:It did not touch anyone, look at the replays its one of the worst decisions ive seen in years

Not even close mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0YiuSbBdaQ

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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:00 pm

How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:07 pm

As someone said somewhere else I can't remember though, by the end of the season Liverpool could have a record of having entered 3 competitions and won 2. And have the most trophies of anyone else this season!

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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:10 pm

Fair play to them if they manage it, but i'd be looking at Kenny and then at the league and wondering what the frig has happened.

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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:11 pm

King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.


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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:12 pm

Kenny Dalglish always looks wet. Even when it's sunny

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:19 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.

Ummm I just read this debate and it looks to me like you a bit of a sore loser Whistle
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Post by GG on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:26 pm

What Olly said OK

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:26 pm

Electric Demon wrote:Kenny Dalglish always looks wet. Even when it's sunny

laughing so true, bit I'd never noticed it before!

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:29 pm

King Beer wrote:Fair play to them if they manage it, but i'd be looking at Kenny and then at the league and wondering what the frig has happened.

Final league position speaks many more volumes than beating a lower league side on pennos for the League Cup. FA Cup is more prestigious but still easier and less important the securing a top 6 finish.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:32 pm

I don't know what all the fuss is about.

Its no disgrace losing to Newcastle these days, home or away. They have some genuine quality players and Pardew has got them playing as a very effective unit.

Losing at home to Wigan on the other hand... Headscratch

Never thought I'd see the time when Liverpool were a mid-table Premier League side, but in truth they have a very average squad, compared to when Benitez was in charge. Also think Kenny has outstayed his welcome. He's clearly unable to influence or motivate the squad so the owners should be looking to replace him in the summer.
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Post by Beer on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:35 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:36 pm

King Beer wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.

*doesn't
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Still wanna talk about intelligence?

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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:41 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.


As others have said, stop sucking on those lemons and get over it. Most clubs are on the receiving end of bad decisions. When it happens you just have to step it up a gear and make things happen.

The way Liverpool played I doubt they could even have beaten a 10-man Newcastle, whereas if their goals had been ruled offside, they would very likely have created more chances.

Fact is, Liverpool were awful and got exactly what their performance merited.
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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:22 pm

King Beer wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.

*doesn't
*he's
*from
*vermin
*these
*made to look

Still wanna talk about intelligence?

Well im in a rush so I dont have time for perfect grammar but you were totally wrong about the offside so you resorted to calling me names to hide your blatant stupidity. Im not bitter at all we were hard done by it happens. I would be bitter if my club had not won a proper trophy in 57 years though Laugh
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Post by GG on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:28 pm

I thought only glory hunting 8 year olds cared about trophies?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:29 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
King Beer wrote:How can the official bottle it if he doesn't see it you fool?!

Get over it. Fact is your precious King Kenny has bought nothing more than overhyped tat and you're being overshadowed by a team nobody thought would do anything and your local rivals. What a shame. You were dogshite on the day. Carroll should've banged that chance in and different game. But you didn't, next time don't spend £35million on a guy that would fall in a barrell of jubblies and come out sucking his thumb.

It's muppets like you that give your club a bad rep.

Well if he doesnt see it then hes in the wrong position either way it was very poor display form the ref and the linesman you would not have won the game without them. You dont even know the offside rules and you are calling me a fool? There are always some vermon on theese boards that dont have the intelligence to debate so they have to resort to petty name calling when they are made look foolish and you are one of them.

*doesn't
*he's
*from
*vermin
*these
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Still wanna talk about intelligence?

Well im in a rush so I dont have time for perfect grammar but you were totally wrong about the offside so you resorted to calling me names to hide your blatant stupidity. Im not bitter at all we were hard done by it happens. I would be bitter if my club had not won a proper trophy in 57 years though Laugh

As a complete neutral, Liverpool were not hard done by yesterday, they deserved to lose. You are getting average performances from average players due to terrible transfer buying. Heck my team Norwich are only 3 points behind you! That just proves how average you are in my eyes
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Post by Crimey on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:31 pm

Cut out the personal jibes.

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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:35 pm

Crimey wrote:Cut out the personal jibes.

I know its disgraceful. Typical Newcastle fans.
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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:36 pm

GG wrote:I thought only glory hunting 8 year olds cared about trophies?

Is football not about winning trophys?
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Post by Crimey on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:36 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
Crimey wrote:Cut out the personal jibes.

I know its disgraceful. Typical Newcastle fans.

That comment was directed at you as well. Responding to a mod's comment about personal jibes, with another personal jibe isn't a very good idea either.

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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:39 pm

Crimey wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
Crimey wrote:Cut out the personal jibes.

I know its disgraceful. Typical Newcastle fans.

That comment was directed at you as well. Responding to a mod's comment about personal jibes, with another personal jibe isn't a very good idea either.

Love the red writing OK
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Post by GG on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:44 pm

dublfcynwa wrote:
GG wrote:I thought only glory hunting 8 year olds cared about trophies?

Is football not about winning trophys?

I'd rather enjoy watching my team play well week in week out than play hoof ball and win the odd trophy.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:45 pm

GG wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
GG wrote:I thought only glory hunting 8 year olds cared about trophies?

Is football not about winning trophys?

I'd rather enjoy watching my team play well week in week out than play hoof ball and win the odd trophy.

Totally agree GG OK
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Post by dublfcynwa on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:04 pm

GG wrote:
dublfcynwa wrote:
GG wrote:I thought only glory hunting 8 year olds cared about trophies?

Is football not about winning trophys?

I'd rather enjoy watching my team play well week in week out than play hoof ball and win the odd trophy.

Well at clubs like Liverpool its all about trophys, but I do accept that other clubs have different agendas and smaller squads so they dont go after trophys the same way clubs with bigger squads would.
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