Dr Who

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Can't believe no-one has posted anything about quite possibly the greatest TV show ever made!

Well the new series is nearly upon us, and as I found this on youtube today Clicky, I thought I would start a new thread (its a new long trailer for the new series).

Feel free to talk about all of the series and doctors on here, although I would imagine that it will be predominantly made up of the reboot.

From the reboot, Matt Smith is by far my favourite. Never liked Ecclestone and although I liked Tennant, I just feel that the last lot of specials were terrible and tarnished his memory. Matt Smith plays him brilliantly and doesnt make me miss DT one bit.

So what are your opinions of this fantastic show and how good does that trailer look?

calamity jane wrote:"to find out who is everyone's favourite Doctor"

Ah but that is such a generational thing isn't it?

A toss up for me between Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, but I went for Pertwee in the end.

Not old enough to remember the first two. Never liked Sylvester McCoy, or Colin Baker. And I thought Paul McGann and Peter Davison were a bit meh.

Of the re-booted Dr Who, I thought Eccleston was brilliant. About time we had a Doctor with a northern accent. Tennant was pretty good too, but haven't seen any of the Matt Smith episodes yet. Must try and catch them on BBC America, while avoiding all the spoilers in this thread.

Pertwee & T.Baker both were fantastic, as an old schooler T.Baker simply was THE Doctor, no-one came close (though I actually liked the celery wearing Davidson too), C.Baker & McCoy weren't the best, I think at that point the Beeb had lost interest but the series long story with C.Baker was decent enough.

I'm from the North with quite a strong accent, just didn't like Eccleston though, he wanted it to be a much darker and grittier show it seemed and Tennants geek chic was a welcome relief for me afterwards. Matt Smith has simply amazed me, this Dr is a lot more reliant on his companions, often it's them that guide him rather than the other way round, very much a child like naivity to him at times. The characters nowadays just seem to have a huge amount more depth than they ever did.

hodge wrote:the start was like eerrrr what :huh: but really well done, heard a theory a while back about river

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The whole thing about Amy's baby is a bit confusing. The eye patch lady sounds like a midwife, but her true identity is anyone's guess at the moment.

I can't wait to find out the true intentions of The Silence and why they needed the little girl. In Day of the Moon, they said to Amy: "We give you honor, you will bring The Silence. But your path will soon be over."

Suggests the little girl was Amy's kid. But if the little girl is actually

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which raises more questions.

Thought it was a great episode - the interplay between Smith and the Tardis was great and made him seem more "alien" than the last two docs have been.

I grew up with Tom Baker and never thought he would be bettered (hated Ecclestone and only liked Tenant until the special one offs that were awful) but I can genuinely say that Smith is fantastic in the role.

Again a hugely dark episode (and includes my mate Marshall Lancaster) and it's a builder towards the mid season break episode.

I actually really enjoyed it.
Thats two weeks in a row where the trailer doesnt look good but I have ended up enjoying it.

Anyone reckon that the ganger Doctor is the one we see shot?

Hobo wrote:I actually really enjoyed it.
Thats two weeks in a row where the trailer doesnt look good but I have ended up enjoying it.

Anyone reckon that the ganger Doctor is the one we see shot?

Good shout, makes a lot of sense

Anyone who voted for Matt Smith has no brain

Well that ending was a turn up for the books!

I quite enjoyed the episode and thought it handled some of the underlying ideas very well. It was quite touching in parts.

A few things that I am puzzled by though:

The Doc now knows about his death.
Who knocked up Amy?
How long had she been "flesh"

And spoilers for next week (I watched the trailer):

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Surely the silence have to make a return at some point in the season?

Also didn't she tell flesh doctor

Big cliffhanger at the end oh the episode so many questions.

hodge wrote:Surely the silence have to make a return at some point in the season?

Also didn't she tell flesh doctor

After the flesh doctor aknoweldges its his time to die the real doctor says 'but this one were not invited to' indicating that he knows something

How annoying, why is the next episode in the Autumn?

A lot of shows, especially in America, seem to do this break thing now where they leave it on a bit of a cliffhanger before bringing it back a month or two later, it is strange and I can never work out why they do it.

I am hoping that Sherlock takes its place for at least a couple of those weeks, as that show was excellent.

I am looking forward to when Dr. Who comes back, I am glad they tied up some loose ends before the break, otherwise that would be incredibly infuriating. But we still don't know who the 'good man' River Song killed, and the more the series goes on, the more I am moving with the theory that she kills Rory, as he is being built up as almost perfect.

Don't read the next bit if you haven't seen the latest episode:

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I guess that's the suspense to make us watch the second half of the season. My view on the "good man" don't read if you haven't seen the last episode:

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Oh yeah, good point. I forgot about that.

Hobo, You Are Not Alone in noticing the Seal of Omega. This has to be a return of the formless one, else it's a HORRIBLE red herring from The Moff!

Derbyblue wrote:How annoying, why is the next episode in the Autumn?

Cos they dont want Dr Who being almost a year off screen.

So they have Spring
Autumn
Christmas

i think it will also benefit from having it broadcast in the dark evenings

River Song

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The final 6 episodes of this series will begin to be shown at some point in September, also 14 new episodes have been commissioned featuring Matt Smith as the Doctor but it's not yet known when they will aired, there is also a Christmas episode for this year.

whats the significance of the old galifrean?

Also, the Xmas episode has historically been counted in the series total - in other words this season was also 14 episodes (7+6+1)

Torchwood soon as well! Its going back to its weekly timeslot for this run:

(flyer poster for torchwood below)

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Hobo wrote:whats the significance of the old galifrean?

Language of the Time Lords.

For all lovers of Tom Baker, our favourite disgusting grandfather,all of our Christmases have come early...x


http://tombakersays.com/index.html

For me it has to be David Tennant (or McDonald as he was originally christened).

I've never seen another actor play the Doctor's different facets so well. The madcap schoolboy, the all-knowing and ancient Time Lord, the pacifist / diplomat and the ruthless destroyer...and I've been watching since Tom Baker. Watching him opposite John Sim as The Master was just excellent.

Old Tom was probably the next best. Matt Smith is like a younger version of him. I would agree they were/are probably the most "alien" and lean towards the oddball side.

Matt, Tom and David seem(ed) to play the role very naturally - almost like they were born to it. Chris Ecclestone wasn't bad, but for some reason, he never struck me as the genuine article. Peter Davison was too much of a gent and Colin Baker didn't really register with me at all.

Trailer for the second half of the current series is below:

youtube video in spoiler

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put it mostly in a spoiler as it all refers to the trailer, so didn't want to spoil anything for anyone

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I'm a massive Dr Who fan (started watching Matt Smith's first series and now have all the DVDs since the re-launch!) I can't wait for it to come back on. Smith and Gillan are class, best doctor and companion in my opinion.

Matt Smith seems to be very popular on here, but I'll be honest, I don't rate him. Don't get me wrong, he's OK, but not a patch on Ecclestone or Tennant IMO. I don't think it's all his fault, I just feel that too much changed at once, what with the head writer, companion, TARDIS layout and theme tune also changing.

Here is a prequel to the next half of the series starting in a few weeks time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppi6n3IiQ4E&feature=player_embedded

Quite good and acts as a reminder of how good Who is!

Anyway - 6 more days to go until the new series (or half of series) - LETS KILL HITLER!!!

[quote="Hobo"]Anyway - 6 more days to go until the new series (or half of series) - LETS KILL HITLER!!![/quote]

Only 6???

Just found this on youtube - the weeping angels are real!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdbsUyEwxwc

I was laughing then shat myself.

Why people like this show I've no idea... It's so cringeworthy and poorly acted...

So after a long wait, and watching an embarassingly slow paced Torchwood, Dr Who returned last night in style.

Found the episode confusing at times, but it did confirm that:

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i thought the actress playing 'mels' was aweful.

Really enjoyed the episode though. Thought it was excellent throughout, with matt Smith being the highlight.

Alex Kingston revelled in the bad girl role and played it for fun - great stuff.

Really liked the idea of the history police - hopefully that idea will come back at some time.

A couple of questions I have though - why was the docs regeneration switched off and what is the question that is the silence?

So are the creatures not called the Silence? Just part of the cult named the Silence? That's what confused me the most about this episode.

As for the question:
What is the Doctor's name?
Who created the universe?
What is the meaning of life?

My two picks would be:
Why are we here?

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and

Will you marry me?

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We watched it last night and thought it was great , really like the way they are joining the dots so to speak .
Matt Smith was very good , but Alex Kingston stole it for me .

How good is this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2rfTR1PJkk&feature=player_embedded

Good enough for Moffat good enough for me , very clever .

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:How good is this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2rfTR1PJkk&feature=player_embedded

That is brilliant!

Tonight's episode looks really creepy, and written by Gatiss

I quite enjoyed the show last night - it was similar to the Tennant episode "fear her" which is widely regarded as the worst epsiode since Who came back.

The acting was very good and I thought the visuals were excellent. The way it was filmed was very good - the colours especially.

Anyway, on to the episode - the dolls were very creepy especially when the landlord got caught and then swivelled his head.

Daniel Mays and the boy who played George were also very good - I could see them as companions in the future to be honest - really liked the father character.

However, the star, as he is every week, was Matt Smith. Simply brilliant - the speech he made reminded me of Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner - it was that good. The bit where he talked about having "old eyes" was totally believable. Even though he is young, you feel he is old.

The two downsides, however were:

1. The lack of continuation of the season arcl. However this can be dismissed as this was originally shot as episode 3 of the series which means the River song story wouldnt have been known at this point.

2. The landlord - he still wants his money - this was never resolved! Yes George was saved, but their family problems were still there!

I enjoyed it as a whole, certainly better than Fear Her.

Got to agree the episode was very well acted , Daniel Mays was excellent ..his counter acting with Matt Smith was very well done could definatley see him as a future companion.

Why was it moved from being 3rd Episode ?

My mistake it was meant to be episode 4 - the reason on wiki is that they wanted more variety in the first block of 6. Which makes sense as the original two parter was a cry for help from the girl in the spacesuit, episode 3 was the curse of the black spot which had the boy trying to help his father.

Having said that, the Curse of the Black spot was originally a second half episode, with the scene of the pirates from "a good man goes to war" shot later to help the narrative of the switch.

I guess the "more variety" would be due to Amy being isolated in a house with creepy things in it (from the Silence episode" was similar to this one.

I think they made the wrong choice and should have left this as the original 3rd episode.

Next weeks looks very Alice in Wonderland to me.

I actually have every Doctor Who (From An Unearthly child, 1963) and Star Trek VHS videos on shelves in my room

I went for Colin Baker, though I do change my mind a lot, but he was the guy when I was a kid, though only the last half of the episode as A-Team was on at the same time

Colin Baker is a great guy though, I always loved him when I went to conventions.
I always felt Jon Pertwee was trying to take advantage of fans and bleed them dry, though it was for charity. Though he was nice to me when I met him, as was Sylvester McCoy, though McCoy is a nut case!

Obviously not every episode is going to slot into the season-long story-line, and I think this episode worked very well as a stand-alone. It was just enjoyable to watch without having to think about where people are in their respective time-lines or anything.

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:I quite enjoyed the show last night - it was similar to the Tennant episode "fear her" which is widely regarded as the worst epsiode since Who came back.

The acting was very good and I thought the visuals were excellent. The way it was filmed was very good - the colours especially.

Anyway, on to the episode - the dolls were very creepy especially when the landlord got caught and then swivelled his head.

Daniel Mays and the boy who played George were also very good - I could see them as companions in the future to be honest - really liked the father character.

However, the star, as he is every week, was Matt Smith. Simply brilliant - the speech he made reminded me of Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner - it was that good. The bit where he talked about having "old eyes" was totally believable. Even though he is young, you feel he is old.

The two downsides, however were:

1. The lack of continuation of the season arcl. However this can be dismissed as this was originally shot as episode 3 of the series which means the River song story wouldnt have been known at this point.

2. The landlord - he still wants his money - this was never resolved! Yes George was saved, but their family problems were still there!

I enjoyed it as a whole, certainly better than Fear Her.

Come on, surely the abzorbaloff episode was worse than fear her?! It was the ultimate filler, the only bad part of series 2, which was IMO the best series of who ever.

Here is a thread dedicated to Miss Gillan - Hero will love this!

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3081932&mpage=1&key=

Man sized tissues at the ready

Adam D (Hobo) wrote:Here is a thread dedicated to Miss Gillan - Hero will love this!

http://www.empireonline.com/forum/tm.asp?m=3081932&mpage=1&key=

I can never watch Dr Who with my kids again !!

Well can I just say I thought last nights episode was awesome.

Future Amy is still hot! That was also possibly the best aging makeup I have seen on TV - quite often it looks unrealistic but that was spot on.

rory continues to be awesome and is the best character of the 3 leads. Dont get me wrong, the other 2 are fantastic too but Rorys character has grown far more than Amy's has over the 2 seasons with Matt smith.

Interesting lines in the episode about changing the future if you are aware of it - obviously in reference to the Doc dying in episode one.

Loved every minute of last nights episode - fine acting and pulled at the heartstrings at times.

Simply fantastic - possibly the best Smith Doctor episode so far.