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Post by The Special Juan on Tue 01 May 2012, 6:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Here is a list of all the "big movers" to the PL this season. The table contains the player's name, club moved from and to and fee for so we can scrutinise them Wink

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Player From ToFee
Kevin de Bruyne Genk (Belgium) Chelsea £6.7m
Olivier Giroud Montpellier (France) Arsenal £13.2m
Eden Hazard Lille (France) Chelsea £35.2m
Shinji Kagawa Borussia Dortmund (Germany)Manchester United £13.2m
Marko Marin Werder Bremen (Germany)Chelsea £8.6m
Lukas Podolski Cologne (Germany) Arsenal£11.4m
Jan Vertonghen Ajax (Netherlands) Spurs£7.5m


Any updates would be appreciated.

Other transfers that may/may not be interesting:

Gylfi Sigurdsson - Spurs
Jacob Butterfield - Norwich
Nick Powell - Manchester United
Romain Amalfitano - Newcastle
Steven Naismith - Everton

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/transferuebersicht/wettbewerb_GB1.html


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Post by GSC on Fri 25 May 2012, 11:47 pm

Ultimately I don't think RVP really wants to go.
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Post by GSC on Fri 25 May 2012, 11:48 pm

If he goes he'll probably move for Giroud
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Post by Gregers on Fri 25 May 2012, 11:50 pm

If Madrid come in for RVP I think he'd be torn, afterall how could you not be. However, unlike Nasri I don't think he's completely controlled by money and playing time is more important so he won't go to City to be 3rd or 4th choice.

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Post by jeffwinger on Fri 25 May 2012, 11:56 pm

I think it comes down to whether he would rather be the biggest fish is a large pond or an average sized fish in a massive pond. To me he seems to thrive on being the main man so I expect (and hope) he'll stay put. Not every top player finishes with a massive trophy cabinet. There are plenty of players better than him who've retired with little tangible evidence of their success (£££ notwithstanding). Anyway, who's to say he can't win anything with Arsenal?

If RVP is off then Podolski can play up top, Theo could be converted (unconverted if you like), or the inevitably large transfer fee they'd receive could go towards a replacement.

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Post by Hero on Sat 26 May 2012, 12:44 am

West Ham have offered £7m for Bas Dost, that's a big signing, he's 6ft 5.

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Post by super_realist on Sat 26 May 2012, 6:17 am

I'm amazed no team in England has ever come in for Kim Kållstrom, he's ridiculously underated and I think he's really going to terrorise England at the euros.
Simon Kjær is also a very good player who has never been mentioned.

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Post by The Special Juan on Sat 26 May 2012, 11:11 am

Hero wrote:West Ham have offered £7m for Bas Dost, that's a big signing, he's 6ft 5.

Laugh That definitely deserves a place on the table, but he needs to go to Stoke.
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Post by The Special Juan on Sat 26 May 2012, 11:54 am

When does the window officially open? 1st July?
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Post by GSC on Sat 26 May 2012, 12:57 pm

M'Vila only talking to Arsenal

Vertonghen says Spurs are first choice, but Arsenal an option.
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Post by The Special Juan on Sat 26 May 2012, 1:25 pm

More reports that Hazard is going to Man Utd but I'll believe it when I see it.

I think Vertonghen will go to Arsenal. I'd of thought Wenger would want to reunite the partnership of Vermaelen and Vertonghen.
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Post by Smirnoffpriest on Sun 27 May 2012, 1:22 pm

I really hope Vertonghen comes to Arsenal, as he'll be able to link well with Vermaelen - we desperately need more strength and depth in defence and he can play across the back.

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Post by Guest on Sun 27 May 2012, 10:57 pm

TSC wrote:More reports that Hazard is going to Man Utd but I'll believe it when I see it.


You got any links please mate?

I'm like yourself, I'll believe it when I see it

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:54 am

gazzyD wrote:
TSC wrote:More reports that Hazard is going to Man Utd but I'll believe it when I see it.


You got any links please mate?

I'm like yourself, I'll believe it when I see it

A lot of them are in French (and are 100% unproven) but if people keep reporting it for long enough, it tends to happen.

http://www.foot123.fr/Articles/Football/hazard-aurait-choisi-united/13973

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/lille-ace-hazard-chooses-man-utd-only-minor-details-be-settled-3195061?utm_source=feed_featured

I had more but can't find them.
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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 10:56 am

From what I was seeing last night on Twitter there seemed to be reports stating Chelsea were emerging as favourites now as his agent was spotted in London.
Being that Hazard is playing at Wembley though in 2 days I would have expected that.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 11:18 am

Well just because hes playing there doesn't mean his agent would follow. I'm sure he represents more people than just Hazard. Still think hes just leveraging Man City for more money though
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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 11:54 am

Hazard to Chelsea apparently. I'll believe THAT when I see it. Who the hell are Chelsea now; the Belgium national team? (Plus Mata + Ramires?)
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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 11:57 am

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Well just because hes playing there doesn't mean his agent would follow. I'm sure he represents more people than just Hazard. Still think hes just leveraging Man City for more money though

His agent doesn't actually! He only represents Hazard!

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Post by Smirnoffpriest on Mon 28 May 2012, 11:57 am

TSC wrote:Hazard to Chelsea apparently. I'll believe THAT when I see it. Who the hell are Chelsea now; the Belgium national team? (Plus Mata + Ramires?)
They've got quite a few Portugese and English in there as well (and a russian... Whistle )

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 11:58 am

TSC wrote:Hazard to Chelsea apparently. I'll believe THAT when I see it. Who the hell are Chelsea now; the Belgium national team? (Plus Mata + Ramires?)

If Hazard joins we will only have 3 Belgians!

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:03 pm

Courtois, Lukaku, De Bruyne, MaybeButProbablyNot Hazard... When are you signing Vertonghen?
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:06 pm

Few Chelsea rumours:

Sturridge to City, apparently Danny wants more game time.

Hulk to Chelsea for £30million, that's the max we're willing to go apparently

Gregory Van Fer Wiel to Chelsea, more and more likely apparently and with Bos leaving its becoming more clear he's probably be on his way

Hazard to Chelsea, the rumours are growing in strength. No one really knows, don't think he even does

Falcao to Chelsea, rumours of cash + Torres. Pretty sure this won't happen.

Azpilicuerta to Chelsea, only if we don't sign VDW.

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Courtois is still out on loan. Hazard won't join United IMO

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:08 pm

Sturridge to City? No chance.
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:09 pm

Its a rumour that has grown in strength, also rumours of Yaya moving to Chelsea are still hanging around.

As I said they were rumours not concrete though by any means.

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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:32 pm

Paddy Power have suspended betting on Hazard citing a large number of bets for him going to Chelsea as the reason.

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:36 pm

Hero wrote:Paddy Power have suspended betting on Hazard citing a large number of bets for him going to Chelsea as the reason.

raspberry Poor sports!!
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Post by Hero on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:39 pm

And it's trending Worldwide now too

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:42 pm

5pm tonight is the rumoured time for his announcement tonight

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:45 pm

It'll be a bigger anti-climax than M'Vila's press conference last week.
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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:51 pm

I'd like to point out Paddy Power have suspended betting due to large bets being placed on AVB to Liverpool twice.
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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 12:53 pm

Hero wrote:
Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Well just because hes playing there doesn't mean his agent would follow. I'm sure he represents more people than just Hazard. Still think hes just leveraging Man City for more money though

His agent doesn't actually! He only represents Hazard!

Ah, my mistake, still I'd imagine hes in England for negotiations. Not sure why Hazard would be that keen on Chelsea, in need of a major rebuild still, the Manchester clubs would offer a more immediate shot at trophies I'd think.
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:01 pm

At City he's just another player and there is no guarentee he will play every week, United don't play in a way that will accommodate Hazard. Maybe at Chelsea he can be a big fish alongside Mata and Marin?

---Romeu-Ramires---
Marin - Mata - Hazard
--------Hulk---------

Doesn't look too shabby

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:06 pm

Hulk = :pants:
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Post by Liam on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:12 pm

Hulk is far from pants. He has everything needed to be an excellent footballer, power, speed, agility, the ability to beat a man one on one and has a tremendous left foot. Don't know why people are so down on him, must be cool these days to go against the grain and claim people who are being talked up are rubbish, he looks a good player, nowhere near 30m but its modern football, a 20m buy will be seen as a bargain these days.

Chelsea will have a very good side next year if they sign both Hulk and Hazzard, not to mention Torres coming back into form. Marin is a very good player, always rated him at Bremen and is like many of modern day players, small, agile and quick and very skilful.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:15 pm

TSC, if Hulk went to United you would suddenly be praising him as a world beater!

£30million is a bit steep but the market is so inflated nowadays. Agree on Marin, he is superb

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:16 pm

No I don't want him because every single time I've seen him (and I've seen him at least 5 times) he's been absolutely shocking. He's rated because he's about the width of a big tree. There's better out there for less.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:17 pm

I don't think Marin is as good as you guys make him out to be. I think he has the potential but isn't ever going to reach it.

For me Hulk is a average player, definately not worth £30 million, more like £15 million. I would still have Torres > Hulk. I think Torres will come good as the main man next season.
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:20 pm

As I said before Hulk and Lukaku on the pitch together is terrifying! Add in Mikel and that's a whole lot of player!

Marin cost us very little so isn't a gamble and could be an absolute steel, the problem has been that since Ozil left he's been playing at AMC. If we get him back out wide he'll shine. That also allows Mata to come back inside rather than being wasted out wide

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:22 pm

Norwich have put in a £1.4 million bid for Robert Snodgrass Yahoo
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:24 pm

Premier League ‏@premierleague
Swansea agree a permament £6.8m deal for the talented 22-year-old Iceland midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson.

Update TSC
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Post by Beer on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:27 pm

ollyrules wrote:Norwich have put in a £1.4 million bid for Robert Snodgrass Yahoo

How is that classed as 'big'?

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:28 pm

ollyrules wrote:Premier League ‏@premierleague
Swansea agree a permament £6.8m deal for the talented 22-year-old Iceland midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson.

Update TSC

Gylfi doesn't count. It's all about players who are new to the PL. He'll go under the other section if it's confirmed.
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Post by Liam on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:28 pm

ollyrules wrote:I don't think Marin is as good as you guys make him out to be. I think he has the potential but isn't ever going to reach it.

I don't know how you can make a presumption that a player will never reach his potential. He has genuine quality and is a classy player, the guy is 23, harly towards the end of his career. He could flourish at a club like Chelsea, playing at a higher level.

He was superb in the season before last when playing with Ozil, then when he moved on, he struggled and didn't have the best of seasons, like any player could suffer from.

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Post by GSC on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:31 pm

King Beer wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Norwich have put in a £1.4 million bid for Robert Snodgrass Yahoo

How is that classed as 'big'?
Snodgrass is a quality player. Goalscoring threat from the wing.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 28 May 2012, 1:38 pm

King Beer wrote:
ollyrules wrote:Norwich have put in a £1.4 million bid for Robert Snodgrass Yahoo

How is that classed as 'big'?

It can go into the other category TSC has Very Happy

For us smaller clubs
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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:36 pm

What's happening with Fellaini? Rumours of him moving have died down

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:40 pm

I don't know why you'd bother replacing Bosingwa for Van Der Wiel, it's replacing like for like, Ivanovic or Luiz would be better options at right back.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:45 pm

Van der Wiel is young and can grown, Luiz is not a right back at all and has never played there (to my knowledge). Ivanovic is first choice right back with VDW as back up. Also if Cahill/Luiz get injured Ivanovic can go to centre back.

Anyways


BREAKING NEWS! Hazard spotted outside Old Trafford

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:51 pm

Luiz is a similar player to Micah Richards and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him moved out of centre back over the next few years.

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Post by Gregers on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:52 pm

Luiz is more suited to being a midfielder to a right back.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 28 May 2012, 2:55 pm

I don't think his passing is good enough to be a midfielder. At right back he can play to his strengths with powerful runs and hard tackling.

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