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Post by John Cregan on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:50 am

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Here we go.................My Prediction, Kilkenny by between 6 and 10.............

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:49 pm

Ah Blue, that'll be the swear filter. It's better to say Shoite.

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:50 pm

Swear filter. That was a stunning save, why do teams change their tactics when they're winning and the style of play is successful, stop sitting back Galway or you will lose this game

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:50 pm

Good man Joe...sends Galway one ahead again...

2-11 to 0-17 after 63 minutes.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:51 pm

Where would KK be without Henry? Seriously...the man's on his own sometimes.

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:52 pm

Galway take your points.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:52 pm

Gwaaaan Joe!

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:54 pm

Squeaky orse time...even stephens...and four minutes to go....

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:55 pm

That's it. Penalty. Frak.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:55 pm

OH NO A STUPID PENALTY!!! Galway could've just thrown this away...

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:56 pm

That's the kind of stuff the over the last three years, refs were letting go.

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:56 pm

Balls, but I think they deserved a penalty earlier on after that save. That's it, changing your tactics has cost you Galway only yourselves to blame.

Takes his point

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:56 pm

Mercifully, Henry goes for the point. One in it now, come on Galway...

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:58 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Big miss for Joe. Feck! The one time you don't want a wide!

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Feck me, lads, you change your winning tactcis and still have a chance and blow it twice.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Two minutes of added time.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:59 pm

If galway ever needed a goal, NOW!

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Managers having a row... Rolling Eyes

Free for Galway. Could it be a replay?

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Blow the whistle.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:01 pm

Another replay. Just like the minor's final funnily enough. What a match though!

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:01 pm

We're going to a replay, they will lose next week I think. Galway blew this.

GAA get their cash, blew up early.......


Cody showing a lack of class here as is the Galway manager. I like Cody which is a bit disappointing

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:02 pm

When is the replay? It's ladies day next week, followed by the football final, then the women again.

It will have to be a Saturday night.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:02 pm

But then again Thom, they could watch that back and hopefully learn from their mistakes...

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:03 pm

Thomond wrote:We're going to a replay, they will lose next week I think. Galway blew this.

GAA get their cash, blew up early.......


Cody showing a lack of class here as is the Galway manager. I like Cody which is a bit disappointing

In fairness, Galway will be very dissappointed. Too many wides.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:03 pm

Personally I don't see why they should have replays. Why not go into more extra time and penalties like other sports?

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:04 pm

Replay 30th September at CP.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:04 pm

Hmmm time for both teams to work on tactics then...i hope the football doesn't go to a rematch too!

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:05 pm

30th Septmeber ages away, Galway need to learn fro mtheir mistakers as that game was there for the taking and they blew it.

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Post by Feckless Rogue on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:07 pm

Cari wrote:Personally I don't see why they should have replays. Why not go into more extra time and penalties like other sports?

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:08 pm

Not the only reason for replays but yes a big one. GAA love a pay day and the number of semis involving the Dubs where they got a dodgy free to save their backsides and level it up is not a coincidence.

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Post by Feckless Rogue on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:16 pm

Brilliant game though. We're being spoiled with great finals in recent years.

What's even better though is that there are a few up and coming teams. Clare have a decent young side. Limerick have an even better one. The Dubs have joined the ranks of competitive hurling counties in the last few years. Then there's Cork, Waterford and Galway.

I was worried in the last few years that nobody could touch Kilkenny or Tipperary. It wasn't good for the game that there was such a gap.
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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:19 pm

Cork are a while away from beating KK. They can beat Tipp, probably not Galway. If we get the 3 footballers we are supposed to be getting then we could be decent. Cork won't be great at anything until Frank goes and even then he will still have his puppets.


Galway need to win this for the good of hurling. 3 teams better than 2 competing. Cork are better than Limerick or Clare but in a few years the munster Championship could be better than the latter stages.

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Post by Dave. on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:21 pm

First replay in 53 years.

How would a gaelic shootout work though? Just pure goals?

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Post by Thomond on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:22 pm

There is no shootout in Gaelic football or hurling. It goes to a replay when extra time ends in the qualifiers I'm pretty sure.


This would go to extra time if it happened and another replay after that.

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:34 pm

Thomond wrote:Cork are a while away from beating KK. They can beat Tipp, probably not Galway. If we get the 3 footballers we are supposed to be getting then we could be decent. Cork won't be great at anything until Frank goes and even then he will still have his puppets.


Galway need to win this for the good of hurling. 3 teams better than 2 competing. Cork are better than Limerick or Clare but in a few years the munster Championship could be better than the latter stages.

What ya talking about, Cork beat Tipp, my ass. They couldn't beat Tipp with 14 men in the Munster championship. Would you get away.

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Post by John Cregan on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:38 pm

What a game..............all this talk of Shefflin though and he bottled the penalty and hit 2 wides after it........................

He was pretty god apart from that i suppose................

Thomond, No evidence this year to say Cork better than Limerick or Clare

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Post by bluemoda on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:42 pm

Thomond wrote:Not the only reason for replays but yes a big one. GAA love a pay day and the number of semis involving the Dubs where they got a dodgy free to save their backsides and level it up is not a coincidence.

I don't have a problem with replays. The players are amateurs afterall and deserve a second chance. Funny Liam O'Neill, president of the GAA, predicted a draw last night.

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Post by Feckless Rogue on Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:43 pm

I'd actually abolish the provincial championships in hurling (sacrilege for Munster men I know), and have four seeded groups of four.

This would give weaker counties in the bottom two seeded positions regular Championship games against the stronger teams from the top two seeded positions, who are far better than everyone else.

It's such a brilliant sport. There has to be an effort from the GAA to raise the standards of the weaker counties. And financial investment.

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Post by Cari on Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:51 pm

Ha fair enough Feckless. Very Happy The GAA needs the money I suppose. I just wondered why they never bothered with more time and penalties. Must be a bit of a mare organising the fixtures sometimes....how exciting though. Wish I was there on the 30th!

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Post by John Cregan on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:20 pm

Feckless,

It's not a bad point at all......................GAA not reknowned for speed of change though!

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Post by Dave. on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:21 pm

Is there any reason hurling final replays are rarer than football replays?

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Post by John Cregan on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:32 pm

Dave wrote:Is there any reason hurling final replays are rarer than football replays?

Not as many scores in football, less goals especially...........................therefore higher probability of being level?

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Post by Feckless Rogue on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:33 pm

I dunno. There are normally more scores, so it's less probable that both teams will have the same score at the end?
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Post by Feckless Rogue on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:33 pm

Beat me to it.
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Post by Dave. on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:40 pm

Thanks for the answer guys.

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Post by Thomond on Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:06 pm

bluemoda wrote:
Thomond wrote:Cork are a while away from beating KK. They can beat Tipp, probably not Galway. If we get the 3 footballers we are supposed to be getting then we could be decent. Cork won't be great at anything until Frank goes and even then he will still have his puppets.


Galway need to win this for the good of hurling. 3 teams better than 2 competing. Cork are better than Limerick or Clare but in a few years the munster Championship could be better than the latter stages.

What ya talking about, Cork beat Tipp, my ass. They couldn't beat Tipp with 14 men in the Munster championship. Would you get away.


The important word there is think. Could we absolutely, should we have beaten Tipp earlier on in the year, yep. I have siad before that the mjority of gaa players and probably coaches are idiots. They don't know how to play the extra man, they think they should always use that man in the backs instead of pushing on and using it to add impetus to the forwards. Cork sat back and Tipp did what they do well and bate us out the gate.

John would the fact that we got to a semi final not suggest we are better than Clare or Limerick? Yeah we had an easy enough route but we beat Waterford who got to the Musnter final like

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Post by John Cregan on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:43 am

I think this champ'ship has shown that there is 2 o/s teams in Galway & KK and a second tier of Cork, Tipp, Waterford, Limerick, Dublin & Clare..................

If you look at the Ch'ship matches between these teams in 2012 you will see why:

Tipp bt Cork 1 pt.............even game
Cork bt waterford by couple of pts..............even game
Tipp bt Waterford by about 6..............not overly dominant
Tipp bt Limerick with a late rally..............close game
Waterford bt Clare...........1 point
Clare bt Dublin............point or 2
Limerick beat Clare............3 or 4 points..............very even game

All in all, perhaps Tipp, as the only unbeaten team above could consider themselves as genuine No.3's, but given their performance in the semi, im not so sure............

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