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Post by randy-poffo on Tue 19 Apr 2011, 6:36 pm

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Did anyone catch the first episode last night on Sky Atlantic.If so what were you're thoughts on it.
I'm a fan of the books that the show came from and was a bit worried how it would come across on TV.But I Really enjoyed the first episode and thought most of the charchters came across well.I'm looking foward to watching the rest of the season.


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Post by President Trump on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 2:28 pm

incontinentia wrote:Who is Azor Ahai? Have seen tons of theories on that.

I can see it being Jamie

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Post by Beer on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 2:42 pm

incontinentia wrote:Who is Azor Ahai? Have seen tons of theories on that.

At a guess, it would be Dany.

I can see one of them having to sacrifice the other to become the Lord of Light.

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Post by President Trump on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 2:56 pm

1) a scene where four men with rat faces are raping a beautiful woman;
2) a feast of corpses, where many of the bodies were savagely slaughtered, and many of the corpses have cups or spoons in their hands; above them sits a dead man on a throne with the head of a wolf, wearing an iron crown and holding a leg of lamb like a king would hold a scepter;
3) old, dead, loyal Ser Willem Darry at the house with the red door from when Daenerys lived in Braavos;
4) a scene where an old man with long silver hair sits on a barbed throne in a great hall with dragon skulls, and says "Let him be the king of ashes";
5) a man who looked like Viserys, but taller and with darker eyes, who says to a woman nursing a baby, "Aegon…What better name for a king…He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire"; and when the man’s eyes meet Dany’s, he says either to her or the woman with the baby, "There must be one more…The dragon has three heads", and he picks up a silver harp and begins to play;
6) a vision of Pyat Pree telling her the visit was over, and to follow him into a garden;
7) a great hall with several robed people claiming to be the Undying of Qarth, who tell her, "We sent the comet to show you the way (to Qarth)…shall we teach you the secret speech of dragonkind?", but it turns out to be sorcery.
8) Viserys dying;
9) a tall lord with copper skin and silver hair bearing the banner of a fiery stallion (probably Rhaego, her unborn son); 10) a dying prince with rubies flying from his armor whispering the name of a woman with his last breath;
11) a blue-eyed king with a red sword in his hand who cast no shadow;
12) a cloth dragon amidst a cheering crowd;
13) a great stone beast flying from a smoking tower, breathing shadow fire;
14) her Silver horse given to her by Drogo at her wedding;
15) a corpse at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, smiling sadly;
16) a blue flower growing from a chink in a wall of ice;
17) shadows dancing in a tent;[1]
18) a little girl running toward a house with a red door;[2]
19) Mirri Maz Duur shrieking in the flames as a dragon bursts from her;
20) a corpse being dragged behind a silver horse;
21) a white lion running through grass taller than a man;
22) a line of naked crones emerging from a lake, kneeling before Daenerys beneath the Mother of Mountains;
23) ten thousand slaves crying "Mother" as Daenerys rode by on her silver.[3]

There's Danys visions from the house of the Undying in the books no. 5 pretty much hints that Azor Ahai is Jon

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Post by Hero on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 3:06 pm


• According to prophecy, Azor Ahai will appear “when the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers.” The first bit is likely a reference to the comet that appeared in A Clash of Kings (though there are other interpretations) and the second seems to be a reference to the Long Night.
• Azor Ahai will be born or reborn “amid smoke and salt,” as you may recall from this scene.
• He or she will “wake dragons out of stone.”
• Finally, the new Azor Ahai will reforge the great flaming sword Lightbringer, which the original Azor Ahai made by plunging the blade into the heart of his beloved wife, Nissa Nissa. It’s safe to assume the new sword will require a similar sacrifice.

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Post by Hero on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 3:07 pm

Daenerys Targaryen
• Appeared when the red star bleeds? In both books and show, shortly after the dragons were born, a red comet appeared in the sky.
• Born amid smoke and salt? She was born on an island in the middle of a powerful storm, so there’s the salt. She was reborn as the Mother of Dragons on Drogo’s funeral pyre, so there’s the smoke.
• Woke dragons out of stone? Yup! Her dragon eggs were thought to be mere baubles, until she, you know, hatched dragons out of them.
• Sacrificed a loved one to create a powerful weapon? She euthanized Drogo, then stepped into his funeral pyre with the dragon eggs. Now she has three fire-breathing dragons. I’d say that counts.
• Descended from Aerys II? Yes, she’s his trueborn daughter.
• Connected to ice and fire? Fire is the obvious one, and now that the Night King controls Viserion, we’ve got an ice connection.

Jon Snow
• Appeared when the red star bleeds? In the books, Jon’s assassination is spurred by the death of one of Stannis’s knights. Ser Patrick’s sigil is a blue star, but it does get pretty bloody.
• Born amid smoke and salt? In the books, Jon’s wounds steam when he is stabbed in Castle Black. Also, one of his assassins is crying.
• Woke dragons out of stone? Not yet. Although if you consider the fact that he’s a secret Targaryen, Jon himself could be the dragon.
• Sacrificed a loved one to create a powerful weapon? He saw Ygritte die, but he didn’t kill her himself.
• Descended from Aerys II? He’s the legitimate son of Aerys’s son, Rhaegar.
• Connected to ice and fire? Jon’s parents are Rhaegar Targaryen (fire) and Lyanna Stark (ice). That’s the closest anyone is going to get.

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Post by Beer on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 3:36 pm

Visited the same site as me, Hero.

As a spanner in the works, what chance does Jamie have?

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 6:53 pm

incontinentia wrote:Its just cruelly ironic that the harder Jon tried to eradicate the white walkers, the more he ended up aiding them, whether contributing corpses to their army a la Hardhome or the hair-brained kidnap expedition beyond the wall which gifted them a dragon. Jon's squeaky clean goodie-2 shoedness is wearing thin for me, would like to see him a bit more ruthless.
How do we think the truth of Jon's parentage and claim to the throne will affect his and Dany's relationship in season 8?

the targaryerns were always a incestuous bunch, they often married within the family. dont see how it will effect them. if not the marriage between them becomes even more likely. as it will stop even more claims to the throne

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 30 Aug 2017, 6:58 pm

anyone else think all the armies (bar cersies) will race up to the north to try to face the whitewalkers but the sneaky b@stards get round and head to kings landing instead?

the scene when cersei realized her folly would be incredible and possible why dany saw the iron throne wrecked and in snow in her vision. the golden company as good as a sell sword has they are wouldn't fancy a battle against the dead

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Post by Ent on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 10:32 am

Woke dragons out of stone? Not yet. Although if you consider the fact that he’s a secret Targaryen, Jon himself could be the dragon.

I know nothing about any of this being a tv only fan but if he's gotten Daeny pregnant that would
Be that covered lol.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 10:57 am

I reckon Jamie will kill Cersei, then kill himself which would rather ironically leave Tyrion to rule House Lannister. Unlucky Tywin.

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Post by Hero on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:17 am

Being that there’s only 1 season left and it’s unlikely there will be new characters introduced or that there’s much in the way of character development left to do, who’s everyone’s top ten characters?

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Post by Scottrf on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:27 am

Varys
Cersei
Tyrion
Walder Frey
Tywin
Olenna
Missandei (okay that one is just eye candy)
Dany
High Sparrow
Arya (only recently)

Not particularly in order.


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Post by Hero on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:28 am

Mine would be...

1. Cersei
2. Theon
3. Ramsay
4. The Hound
5. Tywin
6. Brienne
7. Jaime
8. Tyrion
9. Varys
10. Margaery

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Post by gazzyD on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:35 am

1. Samwell Tarley
2. Jaime Lannister
3. Bronn
4. Tyrion
5. The Hound
6. Brienne
7. Missendei (agreed about the eye candy bit)
8. Tywin Lannister
9. Ramsay Bolton
10. Lady Olenna

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Post by mikey_dragon on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:37 am

Hero wrote:Being that there’s only 1 season left and it’s unlikely there will be new characters introduced or that there’s much in the way of character development left to do, who’s everyone’s top ten characters?

In order:
Ned Stark - the ultimate hero and nobleman
John Snow - like his illegitimate father before him
Daenerys Targaryen - she's just wow Shocked
Tyrion Lannister - witty little man
Tywin Lannister - ruthless c**t
Ser Bronn - legend
Jamie Lannister - used to hate him, became humble after losing his hand and grew on me
Oberyn Martell - he was pretty cool too
The Hound - top guy
Khal Drogo - another one that went too soon, it would have been good to see him in Westoros.

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Post by Beer on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:57 am

In no particular order...

Tyrion
Jamie
Jon
Pod
Bronn
Arya
Tormund
The Hound
Jaqen H'gar
Varys

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Post by Crimey on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 12:11 pm

In no particular order

Tormund
Bronn 
Samwell Tarly
Jon Snow
Tyrion Lannister
The Hound
Jorah Mormont
Brienne
Ned Stark
Robert Baratheon

Surprised to see people picking High Sparrow and Jaqen H'gar, I thought they were two of the worst characters in GoT so far.

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Post by President Trump on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 12:14 pm

In no order:

Ned
The Hound
Tormund
Arya
Stannis
Davos Seaworth
Jamie
Tyrion
Drogo
Grey Worm (He aint got a c0ck but he knows how to use that tongue)

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Post by Scottrf on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 12:23 pm

Crimey wrote:In no particular order

Tormund
Bronn 
Samwell Tarly
Jon Snow
Tyrion Lannister
The Hound
Jorah Mormont
Brienne
Ned Stark
Robert Baratheon

Surprised to see people picking High Sparrow and Jaqen H'gar, I thought they were two of the worst characters in GoT so far.
High Sparrow shook things up somewhat. I think Samwell, Bronn, Jorah The Hound are some of the least interesting characters.
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Post by Ent on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 12:31 pm

Jon snow
Tyrion (earlier seasons)
Bronn
Rob stark
Ned stark
Lady Olyenn
The hound
Brom
Jamie Lannister
Tormund

Can't stand
Daeny
Arya
Sansar
Theon
Varys

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Post by alfie on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 2:42 pm

Well we are talking TV versions , not book , here , I guess . So : (not in order)

Ned
Maester Aemon
Jon
Samwell Tarly
Tyrion
Cersei
Jaime
Brienne
Davos
Bronn

Think that's ten.  Feel I should have Danaerys and Arya in there but they've annoyed me progressively more over the last two seasons... And I'd perhaps have a different list , including those two , if we were discussing the books.

Edit as it is just TV I might sub out Davos who has been a bit underplayed - no disrespect to the acting , just the story arc : he is almost my book favorite - and replace him with Tywin.

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Post by incontinentia on Thu 31 Aug 2017, 11:16 pm

1. Roz
2. The Hound
3. Bronn
4. Tyrion (seasons 1-3)
5. Robert Baratheon
6. Margery Tyrell
7. Varysl
8. Syrio Forel
9. Brother Ray (Ian McShane)
10. Ygritte
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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 10:15 am

Binge watched this over the weekend. Excellent series although the strategic decision to go capture a wight made zero logical sense.

Can someone explain Cersei's scheme to me? As I understand it, she has pledged her forces but never intended to go through with it. Is no one going to notice the lack of an army? In any event, my understanding was that Dany wasn't even asking her to send an army - just agree an armistice. If so, why couldn't she just have agreed that - which would have been very easy and wouldn't have been immediately obvious?

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Post by Beer on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 11:25 am

She asked for a truce, which Cersei said no to, then when she saw the walker, and then Tyrion visited her, she changed her mind and offered her army.

Think her plan is to hope that Dany's army gets destroyed and then she takes the North.

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Post by lfc91 on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 12:04 pm

I see his point though. After Tyrion spoke to her why not just offer the Truce she had declined, though no soldiers. Like he says, once no army marches north it will be clear to Dany she has been lied to (Assuming of course Jaime doesn't march north anyway, I think he will)

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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 1:26 pm

Yes, the switch from truce to active assistance makes perfect sense, if she was being genuine. It makes no sense when she never intends to honour it. It would just make clear to everyone else she had betrayed them.

i think her plan also has to be that Dany defeats the dead. KL clearly has no way to deal with an army of undead so she's totally stuffed if Dany's forces lose. Her plan only works if the dead are vanquished but Dany's forces are crippled as part of that fight - reducing them to a level she can defeat with the aid of the iron bank.

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Post by nadeem2099 on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 4:53 pm

1. Hodor

Feck the rest.
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Post by Ent on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 6:19 pm

Born Slippy wrote:Yes, the switch from truce to active assistance makes perfect sense, if she was being genuine. It makes no sense when she never intends to honour it. It would just make clear to everyone else she had betrayed them.

i think her plan also has to be that Dany defeats the dead. KL clearly has no way to deal with an army of undead so she's totally stuffed if Dany's forces lose. Her plan only works if the dead are vanquished but Dany's forces are crippled as part of that fight - reducing them to a level she can defeat with the aid of the iron bank.

Plan is to retake what thy have lost then defeat a weakened returning army. The lie about sending an army to assist helps with giving Jamie a reason to head north for whatever purpose he is going to serve in the continuing story.

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Post by Hero on Mon 04 Sep 2017, 7:13 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:1. Hodor

Feck the rest.

We watched the episode last night. #sadtimes

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