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Post by RogerLewis on Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:49 am

Steve Tandy for me. Also surprised at Richard Fussell not getting a cap.

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Post by Knackeredknees on Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:57 am

cant remember if Hugh Vyvian got capped?

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Post by Biltong on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:16 am

Etienne Botha one of the most talented inside centres in SA, he died in a car accident at age 26.

There's a tribute to him on youtube, unfortunately I am on my ipad and don't know how to copy the link.
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Post by maestegmafia on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:26 am

RogerLewis wrote:Steve Tandy for me. Also surprised at Richard Fussell not getting a cap.

Steve is a good call. I was thinking Jason forester, he got one cap though

But Fussell? I'd say his mates in the back three, young, Eli Walker and Dirksen are more talented than Fussell and haven't been capped by anyone yet, neither has Adam Hughes or Daf Hewitt.

I'd say Steffan jones or Rhys patchell are showing great skill, so is Gareth Davies at scarlets, but Josh Nalvidi is my choice.

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Post by RogerLewis on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:30 am

I'm not talking about youngsters.

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Post by bedfordwelsh on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:47 am

Fussell is no where near International standard but Tandy is a good call.

When Ponty were in their pomp then Gareth Wyatt was on fire but without looking not sure if he actually got a cap
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Post by maestegmafia on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:52 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:Fussell is no where near International standard but Tandy is a good call.

When Ponty were in their pomp then Gareth Wyatt was on fire but without looking not sure if he actually got a cap

I remember, played against Tonga I think, maybe one or two more. Great player just a touch to small in defense against international opposition.

I saw him at Sardis road the other night and he was playing flyhalf.

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:14 am

I was going to say Roger Wilson for Ireland but he has a single cap for Ireland, back in 2005 so isn't eligible. I'll keep thinking.


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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:43 am

James Forrester? Did Dan Ward-Smith get a cap?
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Post by Notch on Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:51 am

Maybe... Paul Marshall for Ireland? This is really hard given the small player pool we have. Ian Humphreys perhaps, or Fionn Carr.
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Post by The Great Aukster on Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:02 am

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Post by lostinwales on Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:38 am

Difficult on Dan Ward Smith as he had a severe case of JSD disease

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Post by Bathman_in_London on Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:41 am

It's a hard question as so many people get an odd cap or 2 these days.
Craig Gillies maybe could have had a run out at lock, did Alex Brown get a cap? Marcel Garvey was good for a while and didn't get a call.

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Post by Cotupina187 on Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:34 pm

James Downey... 31 now, still no cap, still beter than Gordon D'arcy.

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Post by Imperialbigdave on Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:43 pm

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Post by George Carlin on Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:46 am

...or Jim Thompson, IBD.

And even though he's technically won 7 caps, I am inclined to think that Ben Cairns deserves an honourable mention for being utterly ignored since then for no particular reason.
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Post by LondonTiger on Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:James Forrester? Did Dan Ward-Smith get a cap?

Forrester has two caps off the bench. Ward-smith was never capped. The previousley mentioned Hugh Vyvyan has 1 cap.

For me however - Craig Gillies

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Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:20 pm

Cotupina187 wrote:James Downey... 31 now, still no cap, still beter than Gordon D'arcy.
Downey's average at best. Darcy is one of the best players to come out of this country.

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Post by BelfastDickVet on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:21 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Cotupina187 wrote:James Downey... 31 now, still no cap, still beter than Gordon D'arcy.
Downey's average at best. Darcy WAS one of the best players to come out of this country.


fixed that for you.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:22 pm

BelfastDickVet wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Cotupina187 wrote:James Downey... 31 now, still no cap, still beter than Gordon D'arcy.
Downey's average at best. Darcy WAS one of the best players to come out of this country.


fixed that for you.
He still does it for Leinster. Ireland are just poo atm.

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Post by BelfastDickVet on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:24 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
BelfastDickVet wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Cotupina187 wrote:James Downey... 31 now, still no cap, still beter than Gordon D'arcy.
Downey's average at best. Darcy WAS one of the best players to come out of this country.


fixed that for you.
He still does it for Leinster. Ireland are just poo atm.

I was just joking mate, he is quality, but I seriously think his time on the international stage is up and has been for a while.

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:28 pm

Notch wrote:Maybe... Paul Marshall for Ireland? This is really hard given the small player pool we have. Ian Humphreys perhaps, or Fionn Carr

Fionn Carr Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

Oh Notch, you are are a little sunbeam.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:38 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
Notch wrote:Maybe... Paul Marshall for Ireland? This is really hard given the small player pool we have. Ian Humphreys perhaps, or Fionn Carr

Fionn Carr Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

Oh Notch, you are are a little sunbeam.
Its hilarious looking at him trying to tackle.

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Post by tigerleghorn on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:35 pm

Going back a bit my vote would go to John Wells of Tigers. He was a very tough no nonsense 6 who was unlucky to have never played for England.

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Post by tigerleghorn on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:37 pm

tigerleghorn wrote:Going back a bit my vote would go to John Wells of Tigers. He was a very tough no nonsense 6 who was unlucky to have never played for England.

Oops!! Sorry Guys, bit longer than 10 years in his case.

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Post by RogerLewis on Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:39 pm

When did you return?

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Post by rodders on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:11 pm

Notch wrote:Maybe... Paul Marshall for Ireland? This is really hard given the small player pool we have. Ian Humphreys perhaps, or Fionn Carr.

Jeesus Notch! Fionn Carrs one of the worst player to have played for Leinster never mind best never to have played for Ireland!

Ian Humphreys is a good shout.

Bryn Cunningham? Currently Craig Gilroy and Ian Madigan.
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Post by tigerleghorn on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:13 pm

Often scroll through the various sections but can't be bothered to post mostly.

Certainly a little more civilised than the old 606 days.

Btw Rog, Who were you in the old days? 126 posts in 13 days suggests "previous"

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Post by Bathman_in_London on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:26 pm

I'd also put forward Paul Volley, unlucky to be around at the same time as some very good England back row players.

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Post by RogerLewis on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:35 pm

tigerleghorn wrote:Often scroll through the various sections but can't be bothered to post mostly.

Certainly a little more civilised than the old 606 days.

Btw Rog, Who were you in the old days? 126 posts in 13 days suggests "previous"

You were up there with the classics...

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Post by Driver on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:39 pm

James Hudson best english 5 in the AP for a while and ignored
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Post by tigerleghorn on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:44 pm

RogerLewis wrote:
tigerleghorn wrote:Often scroll through the various sections but can't be bothered to post mostly.

Certainly a little more civilised than the old 606 days.

Btw Rog, Who were you in the old days? 126 posts in 13 days suggests "previous"

You were up there with the classics...

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How kind. I assume you've appeared under more than one name but as you completely side stepped my question you should probably be added to the above list right?


Oh, you missed WLG from that little group ;-)

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Post by RogerLewis on Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:46 pm

That's a good point.

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