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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Current World Rankings

IRB Rankings at
http://www.worldrugby.org/rankings#mru

Fixtures according to http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/fixtures/_/league/180659/

Best odds for each result category from a range of bookies as at http://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/six-nations

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Saturday, March 18

Scotland v   Italy   12:30 PM   --   BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

sco (on 82.18 points) at home -vs- ita (on 71.17 points)

If sco win by 1-15 points   0.000   82.18   71.17   No
If sco win by more than 15   0.000   82.18   71.17   No
If result is a draw   1.000   81.18   72.17   No
If ita win by 1-15 points   2.000   80.18   73.17   No
If ita win by more than 15   3.000   79.18   74.17   No

Scotland (1/16)
Draw (66/1)
Italy (15/1)

France v    Wales   2:45 PM   --   Stade de France, Saint-Denis

fra (on 81.21 points) at home -vs- wal (on 82.16 points)

If fra win by 1-15 points   0.795   82.00   81.36   Yes
If fra win by more than 15   1.193   82.40   80.97   Yes
If result is a draw   0.205   81.00   82.36   No
If wal win by 1-15 points   1.205   80.00   83.36   No
If wal win by more than 15   1.807   79.40   83.97   No

France (8/13)
14:45TV
   

France (8/13)
Draw (25/1)
Wales (13/8)

Ireland v    England   5:00 PM   --   Aviva Stadium, Dublin

ire (on 83.18 points) at home -vs- eng (on 91.02 points)

If ire win by 1-15 points   1.484   84.66   89.54   No
If ire win by more than 15   2.226   85.41   88.79   No
If result is a draw   0.484   83.66   90.54   No
If eng win by 1-15 points   0.516   82.66   91.54   No
If eng win by more than 15   0.774   82.41   91.79   No

Ireland (6/4)
Draw (25/1)
England (9/13)

Original thread:
http://www.606v2.com/t12724p950-irb-world-rankings-part-1


Sources:
Fixtures : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/fixtures/4776295.stm
IRB Rankings : http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/match/fixtures/international.html
Rankings explanation : http://www.irb.com/rankings/explain/index.html
Rankings archive : http://www.irb.com/rankings/archive/index.html
Fixtures : http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/current/match/scores/recent.html

Online calculator (Courtesy of Robbo277 (thanks)) : http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php#hrh


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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by mystiroakey on Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:54 am

Have wales been tonked by the great japan Very Happy

I shouldnt laff

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:08 pm

A serious loss for Italy.

+- placings based on current official table.

Will update predicted table later.
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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:48 am

Net changes so far as I see:
Fra 5 +1
Wal 6 -1
Sco 10 +1
Ita 11 -1

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Post by Taffineastbourne on Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:43 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Have wales been tonked by the great japan Very Happy

I shouldnt laf

Perhapsvwhen your side achieve what Japan managed you may allow yourself a wry grin!

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:53 pm

Looks like England will be #3 before the AIs - without playing a game.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by kiakahaaotearoa on Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:54 pm

Surprising to see the Lions haven't made the top ten after their win...

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:51 pm

greytiger wrote:Looks like England will be #3 before the AIs - without playing a game.

Why? Don't ever write off Aus. They could lose the Lions Tour easily and still turn over any of the 4N sides in any given match
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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:18 am

England could be #3 now CJ had this Lions nonsense clogged up the schedule.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:57 am

Next round of games affecting the sharp end - 17 August.
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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by LondonTiger on Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:54 am

There is something wrong with the rankings.

Wales have not moved, despite thrashing Australia Run

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Duty281 on Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:51 pm

England 3rd in the world then. A victory for consistency.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:38 pm

New OP.

Come on you Argies!

Desperate innit after a right royal stuffing?Wink 

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by mystiroakey on Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:46 am

England 3rd

Yahoo 

I knew we would do it

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:00 pm

New OP

England need to remain really focussed whilst sitting anxiously on their arses this week to retain 3rd spot...

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Post by blackcanelion on Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:39 am

Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:42 am

blackcanelion wrote:Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.
And pigs will fly...

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Post by Biltong on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:47 am

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:
blackcanelion wrote:Big loss to NZ and Big win by SA will see the bok's jump the AB's into no 1.
And pigs will fly...
And pigs will NEVER fly.
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:48 am

But they will score if they ask enough drunk men.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by blackcanelion on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:52 pm

Could we please have a flying pig emoticon. I could use it in about evry second post.

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Post by maestegmafia on Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:56 pm

England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!

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Post by Cyril on Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:48 pm

maestegmafia wrote:England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!
+1 mate. I don't think it'll happen but it'll be good to see.

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Post by blackcanelion on Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:24 am

Boks win they are no 1............ A lot to play for

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:09 am

New OP. Any away winner will result in a rise in the rankings (SA to 1, Arg to 9 over Sco).

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Post by Biltong on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:14 am

blackcanelion wrote:Boks win they are no 1............ A lot to play for
We won't be number one in my eyes if we win though.

Still too much catching up to do after the last three years.
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:17 am

maestegmafia wrote:England could make second if SA get pasted by the ABs...!
X Untrue I think. Insufficient points exchange.

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Post by Biltong on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:20 am

This is where the rankings lose all credibility.

We have lost 5 of our last 7 matches against the wallabies, and 6 matches to Nz in the last 3 years, by winning this weekend does not make Sa a better side than them.
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:32 am

It's not just RSA, Bilt. It has to do with performances results elsewhere.

As I have often said, it's not a beauty pageant, just a statistical number crunching exercise.
And a pretty accurate one imo.

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Post by mystiroakey on Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:42 pm

Well Rugby does throw these up occasionally . I doubt anyone would think England would be the second best if we got there(i don't think it can happen anyway but it was mentioned) and SA were the best- But these things do have a habit of sorting themselves out quickly. A snapshot of the rankings is never a good thing to go on. As we all know based on the WC seedings.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:58 pm

I'd have thought that about now would be the time to sort out both the pool rankings and the RWC draw.

It would still allow two years for the administration of team and business functions to organise themselves.

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Post by blackcanelion on Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:53 am

Portnoy's Complaint wrote:I'd have thought that about now would be the time to sort out both the pool rankings and the RWC draw.

It would still allow two years for the administration of team and business functions to organise themselves.
It'd be a bit unfair on countries like Samoa and Argentina. They often can't put out full strength sides due to player availability. They'll drop down the rankings list between world cups. The current set up at least gives them some chance.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:56 am

Unless pigs sprout wings the insufferably predictable SH Championship this year will spring no seismic changes in the next round.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:00 pm

New OP.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:45 pm

New OP.

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Post by Duty281 on Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:30 pm

England still 3rd in the world then (I'd agree with that) after winning 7 out of their last 8 games.

Winning 7 more out of the next 8 games, that would be the 3 AIs and 5 Six Nations games, will be a great way to underline England's credentials. I am of course expecting wins over everyone bar the All Blacks - tough game that, to say the least.

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Post by blackcanelion on Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:03 am

My take is if Australia win they swap places (England drop to 4th and Australia go to third). South Africa is to far ahead and France to far behind for to be affected by the result.

Japan goes up if the get a win or a draw against NZ. They could get as high as 11th in theory. NZ stay on top irrespective of the result. You'd have to predict a 15pt+ win to the AB's though.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:25 pm

Thanks for the prompt. I'll do a new OP asap.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:03 am

An Oz win restores them to 3rd. Otherwise no real positional changes likely unless you believe that Japan will the ABs and you haven't come down yet.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:35 am

New OP.

Loads. Absolutely loads of activity concerning top 20 World nations this weekend.

And every one of them according to the ESPN site is on Saturday (and they say that the broadcasters dominate the schedules).

Anyway, put your snouts through this autumnal debris and see what truffles you can sniff out.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Another truffle hunt for gay rankings boars.

New OP.

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Post by Brendan on Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:10 pm

I think you have romania's and italy's pts wrong.

Thanks for doing this.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:06 am

Thanks, Brendan. Ita & Rom games recalculated.

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Re: World Rugby Rankings

Post by The Loaded Dog on Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:50 am

Oz only 0.05 behind England now...?

Tonga are on the slide.
Were they 73.21 or 67.24 before the France Match?
According to above, they will slip below Japan, Canada, and Romania.

Is that right, Portnoy? 13th to 16th?

and Ireland and Wales swap places.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 93.80
2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 88.51*
3(3) ENGLAND 85.70
4(4) AUSTRALIA 85.65
5(5) FRANCE 81.44
6(7) WALES 80.98
7(6) IRELAND 79.33
8(7) SAMOA 79.24
9(9) SCOTLAND 77.25*
10(10) ARGENTINA 75.23
11(12) ITALY 74.34
12(13) FIJI 72.87
13(14) JAPAN 71.68?
14(15) CANADA 70.40
15(16) ROMANIA 68.81
16(13) TONGA 67.74?
17(16) GEORGIA 67.16
18(18) USA 66.60
19(19) RUSSIA 61.99?
20(20) SPAIN 61.85?

* still to play
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:45 pm

Been busy this past week LB and rushed my OP. Tonga should have been 73.21

i.e.   Tonga tour France v Tonga

fra (on 81.44 points) at home -vs- ton (on 73.21 points)
If fra win by 1-15 points 0.000 81.44 73.21 No
If fra win by more than 15 0.000 81.44 73.21 No
If result is a draw 1.000 80.44 74.21 No
If ton win by 1-15 points 2.000 79.44 75.21 No
If ton win by more than 15 3.000 78.44 76.21 No

THREE known mistakes! G.I.G.O: mad:
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Sorry folks..
I'll find more time this week.
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:07 pm

New OP (hopefully without rushed mistakes on my part.

One anomaly is the Russia v USA game which ESPN says is to be played at Barnet and I don't know if that's in the States of at the Sarries ground in N London.

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Post by blackcanelion on Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:35 am

I see Australia can theoretically move back into 3rd with a big win over Scotland.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:46 am

blackcanelion wrote:I see Australia can theoretically move back into 3rd with a big win over Scotland.
Any sort of win, I believe, blackcanelion.

Just so long as they stay out of the pub, it should be a formality.

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Post by geoff998rugby on Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:59 pm

You've got Ireland wrong.

If they win ..I konw I know... they will go up the rankings

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Post by blackcanelion on Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:23 am

I think this is right for Wales vs Australia

If Wal win by 1-15 points 1.210   82.19   84.87   No
If Wal win by more than 15 1.815   82.80   84.27   No
If result is a draw                0.210   81.19   85.87   No
If Aus win by 1-15 points 0.790   80.19   86.87   No
If Aus win by more than 15 1.185   79.80   87.27   No

If Wales win they overtake France and England overtake Australia.

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Post by The Loaded Dog on Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:42 am

So we are temporarily 3rd again now, I take it?

England now back to 4th temporarily... Bubbly 

Not that I care 'bout rankins' (sic) but we are back over that magical "86th" percentile. That's all I care about! Yahoo 
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Post by Biltong on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:40 pm

Linebreaker wrote:So we are temporarily 3rd again now, I take it?

England now back to 4th temporarily... Bubbly 

Not that I care 'bout rankins' (sic) but we are back over that magical "86th" percentile. That's all I care about! Yahoo 
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