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Post by GSC Wed 19 Dec 2012, 10:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

To fill the void of NFL chatter between Tuesday and Sunday.

BLACK MONDAY
Andy Reid, Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, Pat Shurmur, Chan Gailey, Romeo Crennel and Ken Whisenhunt all fired as HCs
Mike Tannenbaum, Gene Smith, Tom Heckert, Rod Graves and A.J Smith fired as GMs

Kansas City hire Andy Reid
Buffalo hire Doug Marrone
Cleveland hire Rob Chudzinski
San Diego hire Mike McCoy
Chicago hire Marc Trestman
Philadelphia hire Chip Kelly
Jacksonville hire Gus Bradley
Arizona hire Bruce Arians


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Post by GSC Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:12 pm

Yeah, but its the Cowboys in what amounts to a playoff game (since Detroit won't beat Chicago I imagine)
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Post by Number-25 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:17 pm

GSC wrote:Pretty much every pick bar 1 got traded from the top 10 last year haha. Rams got a 2nd to move from 5 to 15 or so which I'd be delighted with.

Haha, a wee exaggeration there but yeah, there were a number of top 10 trades last year. There's no RG3 in next year's draft to get the trade ball rolling though. Will be interesting to see if this year's draft is going to be the new norm under the new CBA and the changes it brought to draft pick remuneration. In the "old" days, trades inside the top 10 were uncommon and only really happened when someone lost their heads over a guy - ironically, the Jets moving up to take Sanchez was one of the last biggies under the old CBA Shocked

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:27 pm

Yeah they gave up a 1st, 2nd and 3 players to get Sanchez. Nice
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Post by GSC Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:31 pm

I think trades are going to be very common if I'm honest, and I think only 1 and 10 picks werent traded. The big thing that prevented teams making big moves up was commiting massive money to rookies. Now they don't have to do that, they're happy to get aggressive for big players.
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Post by GSC Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:31 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/21449618/monday-observations-jets-sparano-among-coordinators-likely-to-get-boot

Interesting read on the future of coordinators
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Post by GSC Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:35 pm

Tbh, I'm not sure RG3 really played any part in the trade spree aside from Cleveland deciding to jump up 1 for Richardson. That happened ages before.
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Post by GSC Mon 24 Dec 2012, 6:39 pm

If you're a Giants fan, and in a game that you absolutely must win, I'm not entirely sure you'd be overjoyed Foles is hurt and Vick jumped Edwards. Hasn't played well his year, but a healthy Vick can make things happen, and hes playing for a starting job somewhere.
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Post by Take it to the house Mon 24 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

Vikings D has been crazy good these past few games! Hopefully we can pull the win out against the Packers, that would be sweet! And maybe even AP breaking the record for the icing on the cake Smile

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Post by Lowlandbrit Tue 25 Dec 2012, 8:44 am

GSC wrote:A.D managed it, but A.D isn't human.
You're not kidding...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:19 pm

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Thank you @nfl for upholding the truth! To the 12s Thank you your faith is rewarded! Thank you lord

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I won

Seems as Mr Sherman got off the drug charges
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Post by Bull Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:23 pm

Hope the bears win and if we do then well hate to say it but come on PACKERS!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:25 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:Hope the bears win and if we do then well hate to say it but come on PACKERS!

Shocked Shocked
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Post by Bull Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:29 pm

yes Olly we are that desperate as if we win us going to playoffs realizes on our biggest rival wining!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:32 pm

Sorry I completely misread that and thought you said if Bears don't win you want the Packers to do well Laugh
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Post by Bull Thu 27 Dec 2012, 5:35 pm

Laugh i would never say that...that is a crime!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 7:42 pm

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RT @olie_barr: From 04-07 first rounders that have followed the Raiders pick have been: Fitzgerald, Rodgers, Whitner, Megatron

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Post by Colan (niner) Thu 27 Dec 2012, 7:47 pm

And then they took McClain over Anthony Davis, Earl Thomas, JPP, Mike Iupati, Sean Weatherspoon , Demariyus Thomas and so on and so on. I really don't get how a team can draft so badly so consistently

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 10:01 pm

Appears as if Tannenbaum will be removed from his GM post with the Jets on Monday according to reports
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Post by ALPanorak Thu 27 Dec 2012, 10:10 pm

Olly wrote:Appears as if Tannenbaum will be removed from his GM post with the Jets on Monday according to reports

Good! Can't stand the hierarchy of the Jets (and im a fairly neutral Redskins fan). The Jets are just a badly run organisation from top to bottom with bad characters everywhere and the Tebow circus they brought was ridiculous. Rex Ryan should follow Tannenbaum out the door too, he needs to stick to just being a defensive coordinator. I don't understand how Sanchez can be reinstalled as starter for this weekend... (Rant over)

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Dec 2012, 10:12 pm

ALPanorak wrote:
Olly wrote:Appears as if Tannenbaum will be removed from his GM post with the Jets on Monday according to reports

Good! Can't stand the hierarchy of the Jets (and im a fairly neutral Redskins fan). The Jets are just a badly run organisation from top to bottom with bad characters everywhere and the Tebow circus they brought was ridiculous. Rex Ryan should follow Tannenbaum out the door too, he needs to stick to just being a defensive coordinator. I don't understand how Sanchez can be reinstalled as starter for this weekend... (Rant over)

I personally think they should start Jeremy Kerley just for the heck of it Laugh

I don't mind Rex Ryan, I think he's a pretty darn good coach. He just needs to go back to what got them to 2 AFC Championship games, which was a shutdown defence and a good solid running game with high percentage throws chucked in.
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Post by ALPanorak Fri 28 Dec 2012, 2:56 am

I think Rex Ryan is a darn good defensive coach, but as head coach his decision making is being shown to be suspect & his work with the offensive coordinator is clearly not working. I know there have been key injuries this season but the team has regressed these past two years and I don't see much to inspire optimism.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 28 Dec 2012, 1:01 pm

Steven Jackson set to leave the Rams at the end of the season. Strange considering he is still producing for them
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 28 Dec 2012, 1:43 pm

@NFL_Stats: @MikeVick has Never lost a reg. season road game vs Giants, Redskins OR Cowboys, A combined 9-0

That's a pretty impressive resume going into this weeks clash...
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 2:18 pm

I'd rather lose for the 4th pick since the Giants are basically done anyway
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 6:16 pm

Can't wait to see which lucky team gets the package deal of Reid, Castillo and Vick next year
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 6:24 pm

Brandon Weeden, Colt McCoy and Trent Richardson will all miss the finale vs Pittsburgh
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 8:29 pm

Terelle Pryor will start for the Raiders against the Chargers.

Bugger was hoping theyd win too.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 28 Dec 2012, 8:35 pm

Still might. I mean they are playing San Diego...
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 8:36 pm

Yeah but its Terelle Pryor and a crap D
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 28 Dec 2012, 8:40 pm

I give you Phillip Rivers and Norv Turner. They are masters at claiming defeat from the jaws of victory
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Post by GSC Fri 28 Dec 2012, 8:45 pm

I'm not sure theyll get the chance
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Post by GSC Sun 30 Dec 2012, 12:14 pm

The last day of the Andy Reid era.
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 8:27 am

Thank god the NFC West finished in a 3 way logjam so we get Tampa next season
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Post by Bull Mon 31 Dec 2012, 10:46 am

just seen the schedule for us in 2013 and by the looks of things where only going to get 4 wins.

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Post by Pr4wn Mon 31 Dec 2012, 11:25 am

How do you see that then?

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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 11:33 am

We get Arizona and Tampa
Giants get NO and St Louis
Cowboys Carolina and Seattle
Skins Falcons and 49ers I think
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Post by BamBam Mon 31 Dec 2012, 11:43 am

Schedules are here

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000119761/article/opponents-set-for-2013-nfl-season

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Post by CFCNick Mon 31 Dec 2012, 12:06 pm

This has to be a contender for easiest Giants schedule for a few years. Easily the kindest in my time as a fan.

Home: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Seattle Seahawks

Away: Dallas Cowboys, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Carolina Panthers

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Post by Bull Mon 31 Dec 2012, 12:09 pm

Home: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, New Orleans Saints

Away: Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, St. Louis Rams

Thats Ours i only see us beating the eagles , browns,rams and cowboys and maybe the lions

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 31 Dec 2012, 12:13 pm

Yeah on paper the Bears have got some tough games there but you dont know what will happen in the offseason so that could stronger/weaker in due course Bull
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 12:47 pm

Whisenhunt and the Cards GM to meet th owner today.

Reid, Norv, Crennel all expected to go today
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 1:24 pm

Jags GM Gene Smith fired
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 31 Dec 2012, 1:50 pm

According to Schefter Pat Shurmur is gone too
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 1:58 pm

He has now per Glazer. Turner later and Reid to get a send off
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 31 Dec 2012, 2:54 pm

Tannenbaum gone also but Rex to stay for the Jets
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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 31 Dec 2012, 3:59 pm

Olly wrote:Yeah on paper the Bears have got some tough games there but you dont know what will happen in the offseason so that could stronger/weaker in due course Bull

Lovely... the NFC North gets the AFC North and the NFC East Sad

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 31 Dec 2012, 4:07 pm

Chan Gailey fired in Buffalo, Crennel goes and Pioli is undecided in Kansas.

Lovie Smith gone in Chicago, absolute carnage today lol
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 4:15 pm

Reid, Lovie, Shurmur, Gailey all fired timezone saving Norv so far
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 4:17 pm

Crennel also
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Post by GSC Mon 31 Dec 2012, 4:21 pm

Ireland will keep.his job in Miami

Nothing imminent on Rivera
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