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Post by A Fine Folk. on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 5:00 am

He's the world heavyweight champion....

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Post by JoshSansom on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 6:35 am

Seems like a segway to getting Ziggler to cash in the MITB briefcase...

Given that this wasn't seemingly advertised as a WHC match on Raw and given Big Show's very short match against Kofi on Raw; there is also the possibility that Show has an injury. It is a real shame as both Mark Henry last year and Big Show this year have stepped up into the monster heel role and I had hoped both would carry their titles to WM before facing a big crowd favourite.

Ziggler's new catchphrase could be "Stealing the Show... & Your WrestleMania!"

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Post by Aaronb33 on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 7:28 am

From what I've heard, the title match was a very physical one so the injury point doesn't seem likely. I agree with the bit about it being a way for Ziggler to cash in though. Del Rio is a transitional champ at best.

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Post by Hero on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 7:56 am

WWE have shot themselves in the foot though and have already announced it on WWE.com several days before it airs (or to get people to bother to tune into it)

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Post by Guest on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 9:23 am

Great - how on earth has this guy now been WWE champion more than once?

He's so boring!!!!!!

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Post by Mr Video Man on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 9:59 am

another reason not to watch smackdown
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Post by Crimey on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 10:28 am

Hero wrote:WWE have shot themselves in the foot though and have already announced it on WWE.com several days before it airs (or to get people to bother to tune into it)

They always do that when the world title changes hands on Smackdown, which begs the question...why bother changing it on Smackdown? I'd be surprised if more people tuned in.

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Post by Mr Video Man on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 11:07 am

Crimey wrote:
Hero wrote:WWE have shot themselves in the foot though and have already announced it on WWE.com several days before it airs (or to get people to bother to tune into it)

They always do that when the world title changes hands on Smackdown, which begs the question...why bother changing it on Smackdown? I'd be surprised if more people tuned in.

if anything i think it has the opposite effect because people think oh i dont need to bother watching it now i know what happens
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Post by VDT on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 12:06 pm

Must be due to public demend for another ADR vs Sheamoose PPV Match Laugh
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Post by Crimey on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 12:53 pm

sjh5678 wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Hero wrote:WWE have shot themselves in the foot though and have already announced it on WWE.com several days before it airs (or to get people to bother to tune into it)

They always do that when the world title changes hands on Smackdown, which begs the question...why bother changing it on Smackdown? I'd be surprised if more people tuned in.

if anything i think it has the opposite effect because people think oh i dont need to bother watching it now i know what happens

Exactly.

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Post by Hero on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:12 pm

I presume they believe it'll be a 'Mick Foley' moment.
It will not be a Mick Foley moment.

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Post by Crimey on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:32 pm

They usually only do it when somebody is injured, the only time I can think of where they've changed the title without the person being injured and announced it on wwe.com was when Swagger cashed in on Jericho.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:36 pm

Can't belive WWE have done this again!!

Last year Mark Henry was the unstoppable super-push monster, and all his momentum was squandered to the Big Show for a 45 second reign and an IC title match at 'Mania.

This year Big Show goes on one of his best runs in years, gets 2 clean wins over the super-face Sheamus and then gets jobbed out to Del Rio on Smackdown who has lost to Sheamus 770 times this year and is presumably going to lose to Ziggler in the medium term future.

Who does this benefit? Sheamus certainally doesn't get any benefit, it dosn't seem like WWE have given up on him but while he's singing Danny Boy, Del Rio reaps his 3 PPV's of sacrafice and unless WWE have major plans for Del Rio, I don't think that was a wise move. Show's momentum is now all but crushed, he can still look strong but they won't be able to re-kindle the unbeatable monster aura easily in the near future, it does give Ziggler a face to feud with in Del Rio but given the unexpected nature of the win he's hardly going to be able to capitalise and establish himself on this momentum if WWE wants to pull the trigger on Ziggler before mania.

I'll wait to be convinced as always but at the moment short-sighted is an understatement.

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Post by whatwindturbine on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 6:38 pm

WWE have given Del Rio both titles, MITB and the Rumble win in a two year period...



And his ring announcer is still *WAY* more over with the fans.

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Post by bretmeharty on Wed 09 Jan 2013, 7:58 pm

At a guess Id say this was done to keep Del Rio happy

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Post by Mr H on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 9:41 am

The WWE want to push him as their number 1 Hispanic superstar and with the babyface turn not working out so well they put the strap on him to try and get him over.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:12 am


So Del Rio's the champ eh? That'll put some butts in seats.


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Post by Guest on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 11:53 am

As much as I hate Ziggler, i'm praying him to cash in next week and end the boredom of Del Rio as champ!!!

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Post by Bull on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:08 pm

nothing makes you happy does it?

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Post by Mr Video Man on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:14 pm

AntLord wrote:As much as I hate Ziggler, i'm praying him to cash in next week and end the boredom of Del Rio as champ!!!

hate ziggler? why?...........because he stole the show....and your girlfriend? Wink
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Post by Guest on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:20 pm

I just dont like his character as the show off, he needs a better gimmick in my opinion

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Post by Mr Video Man on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:26 pm

i think he's doin alright meself.......maybe do a gimmick similar to mr perfect curt henning where he is great at everything and have a superkick as his finisher like others on here have said
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Post by Guest on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:29 pm

Ziggler is there to sell i think, I just can't see him having a stand out moment at say WM or anything where he wins in a Cell or something like that

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Post by Nay on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:50 pm

sjh5678 wrote:
AntLord wrote:As much as I hate Ziggler, i'm praying him to cash in next week and end the boredom of Del Rio as champ!!!

hate ziggler? why?...........because he stole the show....and your girlfriend? Wink

His girlfriend was Vicky Guerrero, I am not sure that was something to brag quite as much about.

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Post by Guest on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:56 pm

And even more controversially, I don't find AJ that hot.....

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 1:42 pm

AntLord wrote:And even more controversially, I don't find AJ that hot.....

Someone has to say it ...


I'm sure Mr Styles is most relieved


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Post by Price Check On Jackass on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 2:40 pm

Don't be so silly, as if Antlord has ever had a girlfriend!

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Post by Bull on Thu 10 Jan 2013, 2:44 pm

Laugh Laugh

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Post by Guest on Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:00 am

Just watched it and thought it was pretty decent for a Smackdown match. Del Rio also looked to be quite over.

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Post by GSC on Sat 12 Jan 2013, 12:03 am

Del Rios been better recently, but yeah, just seems like a mechanism for Ziggler to cash in on a face.
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Post by Kay Fabe on Sat 12 Jan 2013, 1:11 am

Just watched this, Del Rio has been doing alright as a face, thought he worked well against Show, I'm surprised though, I truly felt they were saving Show for Ryback at Mania, if it happens now without the title on the line it'll just feel like a meaningless squash match when it could have propelled him.

I'm guessing Show has an injury though

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 12 Jan 2013, 5:15 am

Was a hell of a match, Id be surprised if I see a better one on Smackdown all year. Think they did well to project how much of a monster Show is and how hard it was for Del Rio. Little touches like rolling out of the ring onto his feet rather than getting up properly, and forcing the table on top.


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Post by JoshSansom on Sun 13 Jan 2013, 9:25 pm

Just watched Smackdown and I really enjoyed the LMS match and ADR becoming champion. It seems that his style suits being a face much better than a heel and I would guess that his intensity will also translate across to his promos as well. It just seemed as though he had no fire as a heel so I think he will be much more interesting as a face (and facing rather than being an antagonist).

Also liked the way that he won, reminded me of Jericho / Kane at Armageddon 2000 in terms of a smaller competitor burying a larger one. Felt believable way to end it.

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Post by Hero on Sun 13 Jan 2013, 10:39 pm

For me it was ADRs best ever match in WWE and up there too for Big Show, think it could certainly be ADRs break through match as he came across really well.

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Post by FMKK on Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:43 pm

Del Rio got a rather good pop when he came out on Raw last night too, so the face turn seems to be sticking.

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Post by MtotheC on Tue 15 Jan 2013, 7:56 pm

Agree it was some what of a breakthrough moment for ADR it was certainly his best in ring performance, telling a really good story throughout, he's been afforded a lot of opportunities in the last 2 years winning the rumble, MITB and both world titles, hopefully this is a sign of thing a to come for ADR

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