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Post by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

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Post by Crimey Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:05 pm

Can anybody tell me the difference between that performance than the problems with Dalglish's reign?

Lots of possession and attempts on goal with no reward because of a lot of saves by opposition goalkeeper, a missed penalty and end up losing the game. That is an awful loss against a team that we should be bearing considering the relative expenditure on players and form.


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Post by JamesLincs Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:05 pm

erm, no he doesnt

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Post by Duty281 Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:05 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. clap Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

Whilst I can understand people's gripes with Suarez I think that the highlighted is an over the top reaction and rather provocative statement Duty.

Disappointed.

In my view, the club as a whole supports a diving, cheating, racist which is pretty scummy in my view. Handball to beat Mansfield wasn't it? Punch off the goalline to rob Ghana in the World Cup? Football needs people like Suarez to do one, rather than be supported by one of England's famous clubs.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:11 pm

I think Borini has to be looked at. He's done nothing this season and yes, he was injured for 3/4 months, but he was doing nothing before that and isn't the prolific goalscorer they need. I reckon Liverpool will pick up Benteke should Villa go down and failing him, Gary Hooper.
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Post by Guest Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:19 pm

Duty281 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. clap Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

Whilst I can understand people's gripes with Suarez I think that the highlighted is an over the top reaction and rather provocative statement Duty.

Disappointed.

In my view, the club as a whole supports a diving, cheating, racist which is pretty scummy in my view. Handball to beat Mansfield wasn't it? Punch off the goalline to rob Ghana in the World Cup? Football needs people like Suarez to do one, rather than be supported by one of England's famous clubs.

Funny how you're nowhere near your high horse where England are concerned isn't it? Remember Captain Marvel John Terry?

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Post by Duty281 Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:21 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. clap Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

Whilst I can understand people's gripes with Suarez I think that the highlighted is an over the top reaction and rather provocative statement Duty.

Disappointed.

In my view, the club as a whole supports a diving, cheating, racist which is pretty scummy in my view. Handball to beat Mansfield wasn't it? Punch off the goalline to rob Ghana in the World Cup? Football needs people like Suarez to do one, rather than be supported by one of England's famous clubs.

Funny how you're nowhere near your high horse where England are concerned isn't it? Remember Captain Marvel John Terry?

Let's see here, John Terry. Racist? Not according to a court of law. Extra-marital affairs? Immoral, but what he does off the pitch is little of my concern. Am I missing something?

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Post by Crimey Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:24 pm

Luis Suarez is as much of a racist in the eyes of the court of law as John Terry I should remind you, they were both found guilty by the FA, Suarez only receiving more games because of allegedly using the insult more than once. Please be consistent Duty.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:26 pm

Crimey wrote:Luis Suarez is as much of a racist in the eyes of the court of law as John Terry I should remind you, they were both found guilty by the FA, Suarez only receiving more games because of allegedly using the insult more than once. Please be consistent Duty.

I don't believe Suarez was ever tried in a court of law was he? That in itself isn't consistent.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:53 pm

Crimey wrote:Can anybody tell me the difference between that performance than the problems with Dalglish's reign?


Not sure, has tonight's included a PR trainwreck yet....??

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:57 pm

Duty281 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. clap Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

Whilst I can understand people's gripes with Suarez I think that the highlighted is an over the top reaction and rather provocative statement Duty.

Disappointed.

In my view, the club as a whole supports a diving, cheating, racist which is pretty scummy in my view. Handball to beat Mansfield wasn't it? Punch off the goalline to rob Ghana in the World Cup? Football needs people like Suarez to do one, rather than be supported by one of England's famous clubs.

Funny how you're nowhere near your high horse where England are concerned isn't it? Remember Captain Marvel John Terry?

Let's see here, John Terry. Racist? Not according to a court of law. Extra-marital affairs? Immoral, but what he does off the pitch is little of my concern. Am I missing something?

Found guilty in civil court tho. Racist glory-stealing scumbag...

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Post by GSC Mon 11 Feb 2013, 11:03 pm

Liverpool have loads of good players. Shame they all play for Everton
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 11 Feb 2013, 11:21 pm

https://twitter.com/FutbolIntellect/status/301026543994540033/photo/1

That's quite an interesting little table. QPR lol
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Post by Crimey Tue 12 Feb 2013, 9:38 am

Duty281 wrote:
Crimey wrote:Luis Suarez is as much of a racist in the eyes of the court of law as John Terry I should remind you, they were both found guilty by the FA, Suarez only receiving more games because of allegedly using the insult more than once. Please be consistent Duty.

I don't believe Suarez was ever tried in a court of law was he? That in itself isn't consistent.

Nobody bothered to report to a court of law because it was painfully obvious that the case would be thrown out due to a lack of evidence. No footage of said incident and the only witness was Evra.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 12 Feb 2013, 9:41 am

oh come on.. Jease

Terry and suarez both commited racist acts.. we know they have. Forget the law, forget how they have been punished!

I personally wouldnt call either racist.. Just that they have commited a racist act.

Am I a theif because I stole a chocolate bar as a child..

Am I racist because i used the N word a couple of times!!

No but i was a theif and i commited a racist act!


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Post by The Special Juan Tue 12 Feb 2013, 5:32 pm

Do Arsenal play in the CL next week or something? Hoping for a Valencia win tonight as they aren't as evil as the other 3 clubs playing tonight.
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Post by Duty281 Tue 12 Feb 2013, 5:33 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Do Arsenal play in the CL next week or something? Hoping for a Valencia win tonight as they aren't as evil as the other 3 clubs playing tonight.

Yeah, next Tuesday.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 12 Feb 2013, 5:34 pm

Yeah they spread it out over 2 weeks now TSJ, so Le Arse will play next week!

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 12 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

Cheers guys. So does that mean the return legs of this week's matches are in two weeks? I'm trying to work out when the 2nd leg of the Copa del Rey is (the El Clasico). Of course, I could have already missed it picard
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Post by Duty281 Tue 12 Feb 2013, 5:46 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Cheers guys. So does that mean the return legs of this week's matches are in two weeks? I'm trying to work out when the 2nd leg of the Copa del Rey is (the El Clasico). Of course, I could have already missed it picard

Tuesday 25th according to Sky.

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 12 Feb 2013, 6:26 pm

Cheers OK
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Post by The Special Juan Thu 14 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

Y U No put up a Europa League Thread? I think Spurs will smash Lyon. If Bale is up against Revelliere........
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Post by The Special Juan Thu 14 Feb 2013, 9:50 pm

I stand corrected raspberry Spoilsports
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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm

Mandzukic! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUl7BzNnQgM&feature=player_embedded#!

Not as good as Rooney though Wink

Does anyone give Swansea a hope tomorrow?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 16 Feb 2013, 1:19 pm

The Lion's roar by Millwall is the most annoying football chant in the world
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Feb 2013, 1:53 pm

oh dear i flippping hate millwall..

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 2:54 pm

same! As a hammers fan, you understand why though lol.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Feb 2013, 3:10 pm

Yeah same goes as a palace fan..

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Feb 2013, 4:20 pm

PALACE 3/0

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 4:29 pm

Consecutive weeks this happened to me: I put on an accumulator but for some reason it only puts on one team. Still, the one team won so it wasn't too bad.
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Post by mystiroakey Sat 16 Feb 2013, 4:31 pm

what site do you use Juan?

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 4:34 pm

brainless management by Wenger. Let's rest our key players for the F.A Cup game in preparation for the Champions League. Arsenal are never going to win the champions league, if anything it's the third priority left this season, I know that and the fans know that.

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1. Top 4
2. F.A Cup ( easiest of the trophies left to win)
3. Champions League. Bayern are a superior team in nearly every department, likelihood is a defeat over two legs. Now Arsenal, if they lose to Blackburn have nothing left other than the league.

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 4:48 pm

mystiroakey wrote:what site do you use Juan?

William Hill as they're my local one.
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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 5:00 pm

I'd be really peeved if I was an Arsenal fan after that defeat. Wenger is ruining it there now.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 16 Feb 2013, 5:06 pm

Arsene Wenger #headsgone #abilitiesgone #jobisgoingtobegone
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Post by Dave. Sat 16 Feb 2013, 5:23 pm

4th place is a good as a trophy, remember!!!!! Rolling Eyes

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

Ah. So much for my other accumulator.
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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 6:11 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Ah. So much for my other accumulator.

Keep fighting the fight Juan. One day you'll be quids in buddy.

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Post by Ent Sat 16 Feb 2013, 6:17 pm

Play the odds, you can't beat them!

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Post by Whistler Sat 16 Feb 2013, 8:52 pm

They need to punt Wenger. I know he's achieved a lot, but to live off past glory for nearly a decade is disgraceful. He's promised so much for these once 'young players' and they now have become a club that cannot attract the same calibre as their apparent 'equals.' Should do the honourable thing and walk. Now.

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Post by Ent Sat 16 Feb 2013, 8:56 pm

Where would he walk to?

He's wasted his peak management years on a hope and a prayer of bringing through a set of young players to dominate - not seeing the raft of foreign owners on the horizon set on assembling super squads. Even though it happened before his eyes with abramovich and Chelsea.

Pity as he is a superb coach but think his time in football is drawing to a close nevermind arsenal, very few managers go on until they are 70 and he's 64 this year.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:10 pm

I could see him going upstairs into a Director of Football role
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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:10 pm

Wenger want's to prove everyone wrong by building a squad through youth and "hidden gem" signings. He want's to stand on top of the mountain and say he told us so.

It's never going to happen though is it?

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Post by Ent Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:18 pm

No, it will never work.

You need experience and know how to navigate a season, how can this be accomplished with a rake of players the same age and experience who've never won anything?

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:20 pm

Out of interest, who's their most decorated current player?
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Post by Whistler Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:23 pm

That's the thing. I admire what he's trying to do, but in this money driven form of modern football, it simply isn't going to work. Either he spends to compete, or he has to go. No middle ground.

Most decorated player? Probably Cazorla, and when you look at what he's done domestically it tells you all you need to know!

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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:23 pm

His stubbornness is his undoing.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:25 pm

There just isn't a winning ethic in the club anymore.

You see at Utd they don't have to play well, but they just win. It's ingrained in the players. Not at Arsenal it isn't
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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:26 pm

Good point about Cazorla, I never thought of him but he's won stuff with Spain. I'll have a look as when you look Man Utd and Chelsea they have players who have won trophies in the past and have that experience, yet that's where Arsenal are lacking (not to mention a few of their players are rank rotten).

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Post by The Special Juan Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:29 pm

I think it's Vermaelen who won a few things with Arsenal but the only other ones (I can see) are Mertesacker, Podolski, Cazorla, Giroud and Gervinho.
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Post by Guest Sat 16 Feb 2013, 9:29 pm

I wonder whether Arsenal fans would sacrifice a Champions League place here and there for a couple of domestic cups?

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