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Post by TopoftheChops on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 8:30 pm

Mark Henry may have potentially injured his knee in a no DQ match against Kane on Saturday night, which puts his match against ryback in jeopardy. My question is why do the WWE make their most important wrestlers do so many house shows before the biggest event of the year?

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Post by JoshSansom on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 8:52 pm

Because house shows in total draw nearly as much revenue as total PPV buys or TV. The business model is built around it.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 9:37 pm

Kane's recent record shows injuring Cody Rhodes, injury to CM Punk in their match and now possible injury to Henry.

I doubt hes to blame but its food for thought. Surprised they do no DQs at house shows this close to Mania for big talent mind you.

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Post by Mr Video Man on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 10:04 pm

based on superstitions mr Anderson Anderson kills people then. I believe both umaga and eddie guerreros last matches were against mr Anderson Anderson before they died
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 10:15 pm

Superstitions are neither of those things.

There can be no link to with the Anderson thing either, but there is a clear link to my point, even if I dont particularly think there is much in it. At least more than utter nonsense mind you

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 11:00 pm

Bleacher (through wrestlinginc) are saying it was a normal match and having seen Henry injured they made the 'X' to the back and got a chair shot dq to end it

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 12:29 am

It's not a secret that Henry is injury prone, hopefully he'll be ok, even if he could do a quick squash against Ryback, it'll probably be the best thing in the long run

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Post by DDT on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 2:38 am

Mark Henry better pray he's injured, as Ryback is gonna put a hurting on him!

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Post by Kay Fabe on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 8:23 am

I hardly think blaming Kane is the answer, he's not to blame for Cody's injury, Rhodes just didn't flip, he's probably done it a thousand times, CM Punk has been banged up for the best part of two years now, he had an opperation and was rushed back due to them keeping the title on him, something had to give, Mark Henry is injury prone, has been all his Wrestling career, its noy ballet these guys are doing.

If Kane was guilty of not protecting his opponents then you could be onto something but that wasn't the case with Punk or Cody and I've got no real idea what actually happened in the Henry match

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 11:32 am

I'm not blaming him, I have twice said I don't think it to be the case, but its definitely worth noting. In life when someone gets to an age close to retirement and accidents happen people direct blame to the older guy. Kane might carry a burden of unnecessary guilt too. Just interesting is all

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Post by Kay Fabe on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 3:52 pm

So you're putting it out there but your not blaming him...ohhh you scamp you!

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 4:03 pm

You dont train for three years in journalism without learning a dirty trick of disassociation Wink

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 4:14 pm

I really hope it is not a serious injury as I am really looking forward to his match with Ryback at Wrestlemania.

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Post by DDT on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:12 am

Yes because Mark Henry is a "really important wrestler"

Those who have tickets for the big day must be devestated!

NO MARK HENRY!!!

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:17 am

I was disappointed at the thought of him not being there

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Post by DDT on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:22 am

THAT IS WHAT I DO!!!

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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 12:40 am

What?

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Post by x12x on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 6:17 am

DDT wrote:Yes because Mark Henry is a "really important wrestler"

Those who have tickets for the big day must be devestated!

NO MARK HENRY!!!

I've never been the biggest Mark Henry fan but he does have an important role at Wrestlemania with his match against Ryback, if he can Shell Shock Henry then that will be his proving strong man moment and it will really sell him as the classic strong man that wrestling fans love...even though he will probably lose to give Ryback a further push, his role is important as he's the only one who can give Ryback that moment.

Also if he is injured then I will be a bit devastated for him because he was finally back from injury and being given the push that he's been waiting for most of his career, no matter how much I might not be a fan of a wrestler it's always sad to see someone injured. I hope he's fine though because I actually hope he won't drop out or have them resort to a quick squash match just to protect him. I want to see a match where they both have the advantage and both end up looking strong.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 6:26 am

Hopefully no one will accuse me of spoilers but Henry wrestled on raw, so he should be fine for mania

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:28 am


Mark Henry better not miss Wrestlemania, watching Ryberg attempting to Shell Shock him is going to be the highlight of the show. Nay, the year. Nay, EVER!


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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:43 am

Well like him or not, Mark Henry is one of the best things about the WWE right now. He plays his role to pure perfection and looks like an absolute beast. I love the intensity and ferocity he brings. Im going to go as far to say he is one of the best monster heels of all time.

And what!!!

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Post by Adam D on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 10:23 am

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
Mark Henry better not miss Wrestlemania, watching Ryberg attempting to Shell Shock him is going to be the highlight of the show. Nay, the year. Nay, EVER!


So I am not the only one who would mark out if Henry sandbags him!

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 10:29 am


Adam D wrote:
theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
Mark Henry better not miss Wrestlemania, watching Ryberg attempting to Shell Shock him is going to be the highlight of the show. Nay, the year. Nay, EVER!


So I am not the only one who would mark out if Henry sandbags him!


Adam my friend I will mark out like a muthatrucka when it happens Laugh


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Post by Enforcer on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:08 am

I'm not sure I'd say best monster heel of all time, but then it could be his 10+ years of plodding along that clouds my judgement.

He is definitley the best monster heel of recent times and I'm struggling to think of a heel in his guise that has remained relevant, without getting boring, over the period he has been in this position.

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Post by Crimey on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:19 am

I've loved Henry since he started the Hall of Pain gimmick, he's been excellent, he's been very intense, and I actually think he's been surprisingly good in the ring.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:04 pm


Crimey wrote:I've loved Henry since he started the Hall of Pain gimmick, he's been excellent, he's been very intense, and I actually think he's been surprisingly good in the ring.


Do you think Mark Henry will be able to carry Ryberg to something watchable at Wrestlemania Crimey?


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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:10 pm

I think they'll have a decent match as long as people take it for what its meant to be and don't watch it with a critical eye on the technical side of it.

It should be two power houses trying to get the best of each other, no arm locks, legs locks or head locks, power moves and guys just using their best assets

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:11 pm

Sounds sexy

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:13 pm


I hope Ryberg has a new outfit for Wrestlemania. Maybe they could airbrush some muscles onto his singlet, add a bit of fur in strategic areas....


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Post by Crimey on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:20 pm

theundisputedY2D2 wrote:
Crimey wrote:I've loved Henry since he started the Hall of Pain gimmick, he's been excellent, he's been very intense, and I actually think he's been surprisingly good in the ring.


Do you think Mark Henry will be able to carry Ryberg to something watchable at Wrestlemania Crimey?


Yeah, like Kay Fabe said, as long as they don't dress it up as something it's not, a match between two huge men could be pretty good. Even the Big Show/Henry and Sheamus/Henry matches were decent.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm


I dunno I've just got a feeling that this match could be an absolute train wreck. They'll probably be given a decent amount of time (if Henry isn't injured that is) and that could be a problem for them both, they're not exactly the most well conditioned wrestlers around.


There's also the fact that it looks as if they're going to try and have Ryberg hit the Shell Shock, which would be difficult enough anyway but when you add the fatigue factor it could be absolutely horrible (although it will be pretty bloody hilarious to watch).


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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:48 pm

I think it'll be a quick match to be honest, surprised if it goes over 3 minutes, I can see them having quite a big build up, like heavyweights in boxing and the quick knockout, only I think we'll see Henry attack Ryback and get caught with his 5 moves of doom and a Shell Shocked pretty sharp, I think that kind of finish will have the desired effect

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Post by DDT on Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:54 pm

I'm not convinced Ryback will be able to Shell Shock him, as he has had problems doing it to smaller guys like Tensai. Mark Henry is about 50+ pounds bigger than Tensai.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:22 am

To be fair he has done it to Tensai twice and did do it the week before the botch, wasnt it basically down to Tensai getting a bit cloud headed?

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 10:59 am


chris.wilkerson13 wrote:To be fair he has done it to Tensai twice and did do it the week before the botch, wasnt it basically down to Tensai getting a bit cloud headed?


I thought they botched the Shell Shock on Smackdown but edited it out and then they botched again on RAW?


I think if you asked Ryberg to lift up Mark Henry right now for Shell Shock he could do it (go on, give him a call and ask him Smile ) but when you add the possibility of fatigue, nerves (due to it being Goldback's first Wrestlemania) and adrenaline then we could have a Tensai moment all over again.


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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 11:21 am

He defo did it properly on one occasion (before the botch) I remember it.

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Post by x12x on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 11:30 am

Rybotch.

What would you guys prefer? To see him pull it off properly or to see him attempt it and fail on the grandest stage of them all?

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 11:41 am

To see him do it properly.

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Post by Crimey on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 11:54 am

I think it's all part of the allure is seeing whether he can do it, in both a kayfabe way and in a real life way, either way would be excellent. I do love the idea that if he can't do it, the plan should be just for Henry to squash him.

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Post by x12x on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:11 pm

He'll literally squash him if he goes for the Shell Shock and botches haha

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:12 pm

It would be kind of funny if Henry sandbagged him, then got up, smiled and shouted "Thats what I do!"

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Post by Mr H on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:28 pm

A-Ryback is so gonna botch on the grandest stage isnt he. It'll will be the epicest fail of all fails. Rybrock will be dancing with Tensai and Brodus the following night on Raw.

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:34 pm

unless he uses the top turnbuckle for assistance, he wont be shellshocking henry, im willing to put my name on the line

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:38 pm

Sounds like a bet in the workings. A botch or not name change bet

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 12:48 pm

bet is void if he cant do it on his own

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 1:00 pm

He will do it. Mark my words.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 1:10 pm

Sounds like the two of you should put your names on the line. Suggestions for new names: "I'm what he does" and "feed me men" (I'm not projecting)

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Post by DDT on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 1:28 pm

It's not holding Henry up there that'll be the problem, it will be getting him up there in the first place, so I think they may end up using the turnbuckle like The Undertaker does for his last ride.

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 1:31 pm

exactly, i cant see him getting him up without assistance

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:21 pm


Personally I hope Ryberg and Mark Henry open the show, wrestle for 20 minutes and then the next 3 hours and 40 minutes of the pay per view is Goldback attempting to lift Henry up for Shell Shock.


Best.


Wrestlemania.


Ever.


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