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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:44 pm

How on earth does this work?

I've had a look at the S15 table and immediately noticed that the points teams have accumulated do not 'add up'. The table is below.

S15 table

In many cases when you take away the bonus points the number left is not divisible by the number of wins the team have.

Are there extra points available for away wins, or wins against teams from the same conference?

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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:47 pm

they do summat silly like award 4pts for a bye, but then do not count that in the matches.

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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:55 pm

Ok LT, but even taking that into account look at Western Force who have not missed a round yet. They have 2 wins and 2 bps, but 16 points overall meaning each win was worth 7 points?

I don't get it, hence posting the question.

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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 1:59 pm

Try this table: http://www.superxv.com/table/


Looks like the Sky one has bonus points wrong for the Force, while the official one gives the byes

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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:34 pm

I can't open that link LT.
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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 2:46 pm

Hmm not sure why, works for me.

P W L D B PF PA PD Bp Ttl
1 Brumbies 8 6 1 1 1 221 137 84 3 33
2 Blues 7 4 3 0 2 189 140 49 7 31
3 Sharks 7 5 2 0 1 172 115 57 2 26
4 Reds 8 6 2 0 1 172 159 13 3 31
5 Chiefs 8 5 3 0 1 240 169 71 6 30
6 Hurricanes 8 5 3 0 1 199 202 -3 3 27
7 Waratahs 8 4 4 0 2 187 220 -33 1 25
8 Stormers 7 3 4 0 2 154 153 1 4 24
9 Cheetahs 8 5 3 0 0 187 195 -8 3 23
10 Bulls 7 4 3 0 1 172 171 1 3 23
11 Crusaders 7 3 4 0 1 189 153 36 6 22
12 Rebels 8 2 6 0 2 162 258 -96 3 19
13 W.Force 9 2 7 0 1 162 208 -46 4 16
14 S.Kings 7 2 4 1 1 166 222 -56 1 15
15 Highlanders 7 0 7 0 1 142 212 -70 2 6

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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 4:20 pm

Ok, cheers.

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Post by Knackeredknees on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 4:21 pm

It still makes no sense!
Brumbies W6 B1 BP3 Ttl 33
Cheetahs W5 B0 BP3 Ttl 23

So if a bye is worth 4pts then a win is worth 6pts?

I think it works out that its 5pts for a win and 5pts for a bye?

Edit but the bottom side has 2BP and 0W yet 1bye and 6pts overall making their bye 4pts??? Headscratch

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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 4:26 pm

That's what I mean Kk - unfathomable. It will need one of the SH boys to explain it.

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Post by debaters1 on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 4:46 pm

It still makes no sense!
Brumbies W6 B1 BP3 Ttl 33
Cheetahs W5 B0 BP3 Ttl 23

So if a bye is worth 4pts then a win is worth 6pts?

I think it works out that its 5pts for a win and 5pts for a bye?

Edit but the bottom side has 2BP and 0W yet 1bye and 6pts overall making their bye 4pts???

Brumbies,

6 wins @ 4 pts equal 24 + 3 bonus points + 4 pts for the bye week and 2 points for the match that they drew = 33

Cheetahs:

5 wins @4 pts each + 3 bonus points. No bye weeks yet and no drawn matches either = 23 points. Nothing too complicated there.

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Post by Hound of Harrow on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 5:18 pm

That's what I mean Kk - unfathomable. It will need one of the SH boys to explain it.

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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 8:16 pm

Are some of you missing the fact Brumbies had a draw?

6 wins + bye = 7*4 = 28, Draw = 2, BP = 3 grand total = 33.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint on Fri 19 Apr 2013, 11:38 pm

Hound of Harrow wrote:That's what I mean Kk - unfathomable. It will need one of the SH boys to explain it.

Did no-one on this board ever learn simple algebra or simultaneous equations or the use of spreadsheets?

aW + bD + cB = Ttl - Bp
where a b c are appropriate number in column as defined in column headed by


the table is w L D.

It's fine.

[ed] What sort of ridiculous league would have byes? I bet they have playoffs...

Still the money is always more important than the sport.

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