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Post by Cogen on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 3:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

It's Wimbledon, baby! Cool

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Rank
Orig
Rank
Player
Orig
Points
Drop
Points
Gain
Points
Live
Points
Live
Movement
Current Status
Next Opponent
1
1
N. Djokovic [SRB]
11830
720
1200
12310
Eliminated - Final
2
2
A. Murray [GBR]
8560
1200
2000
9360
Champion
3
4
D. Ferrer [ESP]
7220
360
360
7220
Up 1
Eliminated - QF
4
5
R. Nadal [ESP]
6895
45
10
6860
Up 1
Eliminated - R128
5
3
R. Federer [SUI]
7740
2000
45
5785
Down 2
Eliminated - R64
6
6
T. Berdych [CZE]
4515
10
360
4865
Eliminated - QF
7
8
J. Del Potro [ARG]
3960
180
720
4500
Up 1
Eliminated - SF
8
7
J. Tsonga [FRA]
4155
720
45
3480
Down 1
Eliminated - R64
9
9
R. Gasquet [FRA]
3135
180
90
3045
Eliminated - R32
10
10
S. Wawrinka [SUI]
2915
10
10
2915
Eliminated - R128
11
13
T. Haas [GER]
2425
0
180
2605
Up 2
Eliminated - R16
12
11
K. Nishikori [JPN]
2495
90
90
2495
Down 1
Eliminated - R32
13
12
M. Cilic [CRO]
2470
180
45
2335
Down 1
Eliminated - R64
14
14
J. Tipsarevic [SRB]
2390
90
10
2310
Eliminated - R128
15
15
M. Raonic [CAN]
2225
45
45
2225
Eliminated - R64
16
16
N. Almagro [ESP]
2195
90
90
2195
Eliminated - R32
17
22
J. Janowicz [POL]
1549
115
720
2154
Up 5
Eliminated - SF
18
17
G. Simon [FRA]
2090
45
10
2055
Down 1
Eliminated - R128
19
21
J. Isner [USA]
1735
10
45
1770
Up 2
Eliminated - R64
20
20
J. Monaco [ARG]
1740
90
90
1740
Eliminated - R32
Selected Others:
21
19
S. Querrey [USA]
1810
90
10
1730
Down 2
Eliminated - R128
25
18
P. Kohlschreiber [GER]
1885
360
10
1535
Down 7
Eliminated - R128
35
54
F. Verdasco [ESP]
825
90
360
1095
Up 19
Eliminated - QF
64
130
L. Kubot [POL]
440
45
360
755
Up 66
Eliminated - QF


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Post by Henman Bill on Fri 05 Jul 2013, 11:18 pm

let's not forget Murray's 2011 clay season, I think he is a little underrated there

just a little

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Post by socal1976 on Sat 06 Jul 2013, 12:32 am

Nadal's two thousand point lead in the point's race has basically been cut in half even if Djokovic loses the final. If he wins it, the two are almost dead even with no more clay court matches and a lot of hardcourt and indoor matches remaining. If Andy beats Novak, Novak will be about 1000 points behind Nadal in the points race with the rest of the season all the surfaces favor Novak. Judging by how rarely Nadal has even played in the indoor swing, the year end #1 is looking more and more secure for Djokovic. If he wins wimbeldon you can basically wrap it up for him.

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Post by Cogen on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:39 pm

Feels good to update the table and put "Champion" next to Andy Murray. Wink

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Post by banbrotam on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:43 pm

I think Andy's No.2 is now safe. I do not see Rafa getting 2000 points more in the section of the season, he normally does the worst

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Post by Guest on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:44 pm

Today marks the first time Roger broke into the top 4 and has stayed there for 10 years!!

Insane!

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Post by ryan86 on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:47 pm

Murray has actually to score 2000 points more than Nadal in the remainder of the season to stay 2nd.

These are rough figures. In the period post-Wimbledon last year Murray outscores Nadal by 4000pts. However this year it's 7000 vs. 5000 in favour of Nadal in the race.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 6:49 pm

Plus remember his Olympic points will soon drop off. Sad 
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Post by JubbaIsle on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 7:17 pm

Cogen wrote:Feels good to update the table and put "Champion" next to Andy Murray. Wink

Thats one part of your job (if you can call it that) that has a nice perk to it.

I can't wait for the papers tomorrow, their hype is going to hit a bonanza of self righteous , slap on the back, sanctimonious congratulations.

I dread to think what would have been written if he had lost, such was the journalistic fervour to give him almost outrageous odds to win it.

The stuff of life is made by the width of a broad white line, or in Novak's case, a white band of tape as immobile and unbreakable as a concrete wall.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 7:25 pm

The sickening thing about the media is their hypocrisy. Seven years ago they tried their utmost to wrongly portray Murray as a bigot and tomorrow they'll be making him the hero. Pathetic. Rolling Eyes 
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Post by JubbaIsle on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 7:32 pm

Well they won't eat their words for sure CC. They don't like the taste of Humble Pie.

Cogen, I presume Murray will be safe at No2 till at least the WTF? as I dont think Nadal or Ferrer can chase him up till then ?

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Post by kingraf on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 7:33 pm

If Nadal is bothered in any way to play the hard court season, I think he gets the #2 ranking, minimum. But, I think Rafa checks out after USO, no matter what.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:17 pm

kingraf wrote:If Nadal is bothered in any way to play the hard court season, I think he gets the #2 ranking, minimum. But, I think Rafa checks out after USO, no matter what.
   

Depends surely. He'll have to catch Murray, who off clay this year has a record of F, QF, W, W W. If he maintains that sort of form then Nadal isn't getting number 2.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:18 pm

Sorry I've missed one haven't I. It should be W, F, QF, W, W, W. For a guy who has been a bit out of sorts all year, that's a fairly astounding record!

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Post by Silver on Mon 08 Jul 2013, 12:42 am

Thanks for maintaining and updating this, Cogen. We're all glad that you do it, stellar work clap 

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Post by ryan86 on Mon 08 Jul 2013, 1:44 am

Mmm, so the Murray for Number 1 conundrum. Will be easier to work out once Cogen's Wind Down is updated, but I suspect Paris would be the first real realistic chance. So for the rest of the season we'd be looking at Murray to outscore Novak by 1000 points and Nadal by 2000.

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Post by dummy_half on Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:06 am

ryan86 wrote:Mmm, so the Murray for Number 1 conundrum. Will be easier to work out once Cogen's Wind Down is updated, but I suspect Paris would be the first real realistic chance. So for the rest of the season we'd be looking at Murray to outscore Novak by 1000 points and Nadal by 2000.

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Remember that Andy is carrying about 600 points more than Djoko from the Olympics that will be dropped and could only be replaced with a countable 500 or 250 (he isn't currently carrying any non-counted tournaments, so will need to play an additional tournament).

Having said that, other than the Olympics and USO, he didn't really do that well in the latter part of 2012 - Masters Series final in Shanghai, but only 90 points to defend in each of Canada, Cinci and Paris, all of which are tournaments he can challenge for or win (Paris is an issue because of holding something back for the WTF).

Realistically, I can't see Andy challenging for the #1 spot until the clay season next year - he should have the scope to add at least 500 points with just an average performance, and if he can do well and get to a couple of SFs.

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Post by ryan86 on Tue 09 Jul 2013, 8:23 pm

Yeah, that's why I went for the Year-End. Because with Djokovic winning at the O2(and Shanghai and Beijing) last year I couldn't foresee Murray getting ahead. I'll make a bold prediction that the No 1 into the O2 will be the guy who wins the US Open of Nadal, Djokovic and Murray.

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Post by Henman Bill on Tue 09 Jul 2013, 8:33 pm

banbrotam wrote:I think Andy's No.2 is now safe. I do not see Rafa getting 2000 points more in the section of the season, he normally does the worst

Are you looking at this the wrong way? Rafa didn't play this section of the season at all last time out, and Murray has to defend the US Open, so Rafa could easily catch up 2,000 points vs last year.

Year end rankings race

1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 7,010
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 6,230
3 Murray, Andy (GBR) 5,160

These look set to be the top 3 don't they. Just a question of the order. Murray has been the 4th best player every year from 2008 to 2012 inclusive. In 2012 he actually finished 3rd because of Rafa's injury. Now's a chance for him to finish higher.

It looks to be a close battle between him and Rafa. Djokovic slight favourite. But they could finish in any order.

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