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Post by Duty281 on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:05 pm

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LINE-UPS - Bayern Munich v Chelsea (1945 BST):
Bayern Munich: Neuer, Rafinha, Boateng, Dante, Alaba, Lahm, Robben, Muller, Kroos, Ribery, Mandzukic. Subs: Starke, Van Buyten, Javi Martinez, Shaqiri, Pizarro, Gotze, Contento.

Chelsea: Cech, Ivanovic, Cahill, Luiz, Cole, Ramires, Lampard, Schurrle, Oscar, Hazard, Torres. Subs: Schwarzer, Essien, Mata, Mikel, Lukaku, Terry, Azpilicueta.

Referee: Jonas Eriksson (Sigtuna)


Chelsea to win 2-1. thumbsup 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:13 pm

Chelsea look weap up front this year. They really need Willian and Eto'o to settle in quickly because Torres looks so poor.

Chelsea to scrape it 1-0

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:16 pm

2-1 Bayern me thinks.

I recon Lampard will be MOTM since he is the best center midfielder in the world.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:24 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:2-1 Bayern me thinks.

I recon Lampard will be MOTM since he is the best center midfielder in the world.
Goal scoring wise I think he is.

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:35 pm

I can see either Bayern winning this at a canter or Chelsea spoiling their way to a 1-0 win.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:35 pm

Bit tiresome now Nick.

Suggestions Lahms playing DM, would it not be Alaba DM and Lahm LB.
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:36 pm

GSC wrote:Bit tiresome now Nick.

Suggestions Lahms playing DM, would it not be Alaba DM and Lahm LB.
pep seems to like playing lahm at DM has done it since he took over.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:36 pm

Not a fan of Philip Lahm as a central midfielder, nor the formation Guardiola has started to use at Bayern, just think it's unnecessarily "clever", I think Guardiola is trying to cement his legacy as an innovator. 

Really surprised that Terry has been dropped and that there is no Mata, I know it's not a big match technically but it would be a great start for Jose to win it, especially against Bayern. No De Bruyne at all, could he be off on loan?

Also why on earth is Gus Poyet so popular as a pundit, seems to be on every channel at the moment despite being difficult to understand and not even being a very interesting or intelligent pundit. Please somebody hire him as a manager.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:36 pm

Fair enough, knew Alaba wants to be a DM
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:37 pm

Very much getting the sense Jose would listen to bids for Mata now
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:38 pm

GSC wrote:Very much getting the sense Jose would listen to bids for Mata now
Arsenal????

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:40 pm

Wouldnt surprise me, Arsenes a long term admirer, and probably has to splash some cash.

Left out for Man Utd, and this game, despite getting a week off thanks to no international call up.
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:41 pm

Looks very much like Jose will recreate his United tactics and look to play on the break while setting up shop.
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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:43 pm

You'd have thought Barcelona would be all over that, although I suppose it depends on how much they have to spend after the Neymar deal, I know they tend to only have one big signing in them every year.

Can't see Chelsea selling to anybody else in the Premier League if they do sell, PSG are an option. 

I can't comprehend it though, Mata is a better player than any of Chelsea's other options in his positions, probably one of the top 3 players in the Premier League as well. Can't get my head around it at all.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:47 pm

Theres no room at Barca, he'd be behind Cesc in the backup for every position pecking order
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:47 pm

Its a shame itv get CL and England games, when they have such bad presenters and commentators
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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:49 pm

I'd have thought he'd be ahead of Sanchez on the right of the front three for Barcelona.

I'm still a bit gutted that Guardiola is at Bayern, they were such a good team last year and I loved the way they played, with two of probably the best pivots in football with some pacy, great wingers, Muller/Kroos etc. Now they're going to be sucked in by Guardiola's need to change and chop things and play odd formations to prove his intelligence. 

I can see his reign being a disaster. Just don't think the German efficiency will mould well with his Spanish flair.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:50 pm

GSC wrote:Its a shame itv get CL and England games, when they have such bad presenters and commentators
I agree, ITV very rarely have good pundits. I like Lee Dixon but that's about it. I know a lot of people criticise the BBC, but I think they do have the better pundits and think Alan Shearer has got better and better every year. Would rather BBC had more football, but it's hard to compete financially.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:51 pm

Guardiola is a fantastic coach, he'll be very successful
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Post by Fernando on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:53 pm

Why not just watch it on Sky then?  

Could see Mata at Barcelona im sure they would fit him in nicely Smile

Any chance of the box being opened for this?

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:55 pm

GSC wrote:Guardiola is a fantastic coach, he'll be very successful
That may be the case, but would rather he'd returned to Barcelona than taken over Bayern. Don't like his need to tinker and create odd formations, such as the one he's playing today or where he played extremely odd ones at Barcelona. Also don't like the fact that he tries to turn quality midfielders into centre backs such as Mascherano, likely Martinez...he tried to turn Yaya Toure into one!

Much prefer Mourinho ruthless efficiency to Guardiola's tinkering. Bayern were probably the perfect football team for me last year, I'm not sure he'll be able to recreate that with his changes.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:55 pm

1-0 Chelsea

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:55 pm

Great goal.

Torres is back! censored

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Post by Fernando on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:55 pm

Bayern 0-1 Chelsea - Fernando Torres - Quality goal and play building up to it

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:55 pm

Boom!

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:56 pm

Bayern more committed than United offensively and pay on the counter
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:57 pm

Swear I've never seen Ribery do anything
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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:58 pm

Hoping for a high-scoring game. Can see Chelsea shutting up shop now though and Bayern struggling to break them down.

Would like to see Guardiola take over at an AC Milan or another sleeping giant like that and try and raise them from the ashes. Then he can innovate.

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 7:58 pm

GSC wrote:Swear I've never seen Ribery do anything
Same here. Apparently we are missing something.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:01 pm

WHAT A GOAL!!!!!!!! That was just pure class all round. Maybe Jose can get the best out of Torres

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:05 pm

Torres always seems to have one or two moments of brilliance every year but then just disappoints by not being consistent enough.

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Post by CFCNick on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:09 pm

GSC wrote:Swear I've never seen Ribery do anything
Did you see he was shortlisted as one of the best in Europe the other day. What a joke. It's only because the Frenchies run it.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:10 pm

Great play by Bayern, Ribery hit it well but a superb sabe from Cech

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:27 pm

Ribery seems to hit one in ten shots well.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:28 pm

Torres needs to bring his blonde hair back
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:36 pm

Chelsea defending excellently at the moment, and their organisation is first-rate. They also look incredibly dangerous on the counter - Torres in particular seems to have a new lease of life, and Schurrle is doing very well. Jose has set Chelsea up perfectly tonight. Bayern are just being restricted to speculative efforts thus far.

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Post by Fernando on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:53 pm

Bayern 1-1 Chelsea - Scarface from long range

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:53 pm

Good goal.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:58 pm

GSC wrote:Swear I've never seen Ribery do anything
. Laugh 

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Post by CFCNick on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 8:59 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:
GSC wrote:Swear I've never seen Ribery do anything
.                                                                    Laugh 
He is massively overrated.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:19 pm

Problem with how Chelsea have approached the game is that they got the early goal and sat back and allowed Bayern to control the game, it then becomes very difficult to actually get a foothold in the game once Bayern get an equaliser. 

Relying on defensive mistakes and quick breaks but at this point the pace and acceleration of the Chelsea players isn't quite there to be able to break with the same ferocity as early in the game.

Really surprised Mourinho hasn't made any changes, you'd think neither manager will want this going to extra time.

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Post by CFCNick on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:20 pm

Extra time is fine for us. We don't play again until the 14th.

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:21 pm

I've always felt that this fixture should go straight to penalties.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:22 pm

CFCNick wrote:Extra time is fine for us. We don't play again until the 14th.
I'm less thinking tiredness and more injuries. I know Chelsea have a big squad, but I can't imagine they'd be happy with any of their players getting injured. The longer they're on the pitch the more likely they'll be injured.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:22 pm

FreekShow wrote:I've always felt that this fixture should go straight to penalties.
I thought it did until the commentary said differently.

I don't think it really counts as a proper trophy, it's more like the Community Shield so it should do I think.

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:23 pm

Crimey wrote:
FreekShow wrote:I've always felt that this fixture should go straight to penalties.
I thought it did until the commentary said differently.

I don't think it really counts as a proper trophy, it's more like the Community Shield so it should do I think.
Liverpool won this via ET and pens in 05 if I remember correctly.

Just the ET was needed. Must have dreamt the pens Laugh 


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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:25 pm

At least it's being played at a decent venue on a decent pitch for once. Is this going to be permanent?

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:27 pm

Cardiff's stadium is next.

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:28 pm

Yeah just checked and they are changing venues every year.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 30 Aug 2013, 9:30 pm

Is Ramires suspended for the Champions League now then?

Harsh sending off.

Chelsea should have made a substitution earlier I think.

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