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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:20 pm

The FIA really need to look at themselves closely. Once more incompetence has seen them bring in regulations for turbo engines but are now putting drivers at risk for being too heavy and they may lose their drives. Ridiculous. If turbo engines are heavier than they thought then surely the weight allowances should go up as well instead of penalising teams and fans by forcing the best drivers to look elsewhere for a drive due to stupid, ill-thought out and stubborn regulations.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:32 pm

It is ridiculous, I see Mansell has also come out today expressing his dis-pleasure at the whole thing. Hulkenberg should be driving in F1, irrespective of his weight. We knew the FIA were an embarrassment, this just cement's that view. F1 needs to reduce costs, so what do they do? They get more expensive engines, more expensive drive-trains, more testing & want to add more races to the calendar, which adds more cost. Puzzling. The more I think about next year, the more I actually worry. I mean, it has the possibility, although the teams are drastically downplaying it, that next year could be a complete joke. The amount of conserving next year could be truly frightening to watch, ranging from the usual tyre debate to the expected 40% less fuel usage. Five engines over a season due to cost......oh dear.

This season's been bad, what's to come could be worse.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:35 pm

It is just one in a long catalogue of bizarre mismanagement. Bringing in heavier engines and to hell with the drivers if they weigh too much. Perhaps the FIA want a gridfull of sponsored skinny drivers?
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:32 pm

F1’s governing body is in a race against time to ensure teams obey the radical new rules next year, in a season, which could be largely dictated by tyre/fuel conservation. Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport reports that sensors designed to ensure teams are sticking by the new maximum fuel flow rate next year have proved not accurate enough in initial testing. Next year, with the arrival of the new turbo V6 regulations, fuel will only be allowed to flow into the engine at a prescribed speed.

Correspondent Tobias Gruner said a British company called Gill HySpeed was awarded the contract by the FIA to supply the fuel flow rate sensors, which were tested at the young drivers test earlier this year.

"The result was worrying," Gruner revealed. "Instead of the maximum permitted deviation of 0.5 per cent for the specified flow rate, the error (margin) was actually up to 1.5 per cent."

The British company has been working to fix the problem, but if the solution is ultimately deemed not good enough, the FIA would have to rely on information provided only by F1’s engine suppliers. If this happens to be the case, accusations of cheating would surely follow

More problems for the FIA to sort out.

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Post by Alessandro Ciambella Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:14 pm

Thats it. FIA, your getting the Alessandro Ciambella treatment.

I have had enough of your manufactured races, stupid attempts at levelling the playing field with miniscule budget caps, fuel economy driving, destroying the reputation of pirelli, making F1 too health and saftey compliant and never listening to your fans.

Lets face it, the FIA is the second coming of FIFA. Its forgotten the very roots of where F1 belongs. Soon, James May with his kind, economical driving style could be in contention with his unique driving skills.

IS THIS WHAT WE WANT?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:10 pm

Lets not forget the loony plan of Bernie Ecclestone to replace points with a medal system a year or two ago - potty or what? And then we had Bernie saying a few years ago they wanted to attract new teams to the sport then what does he do a year or so ago? Reduces the slice of thcake (payment-wise) received by the new teams Caterham and Marussia. Then we hear Bernie mouthing off about this race and that race being for the chop but then he nearly always backtracks and includes the race on the calendar - once he has extracted more money from them.
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Post by dyrewolfe Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:23 pm

Agreed. I cannot understand why there would be any problem in raising the car + driver weight limit to say 725kg.

So some teams and drivers might need to use a bit more ballast, but whats the big deal?

Actually, I wouldn't call it incompetence, so much as sheer stupidity, not to mention downright dangerous, when you've got larger drivers like Webber, Button and Hulkenberg, potentially putting their health at risk, just so they can make the weight limit.

Surely the WHO or some international health body should be brought in to put pressure on the FIA to get this rule changed?
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Post by dyrewolfe Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:27 pm

John wrote:F1’s governing body is in a race against time to ensure teams obey the radical new rules next year, in a season, which could be largely dictated by tyre/fuel conservation. Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport reports that sensors designed to ensure teams are sticking by the new maximum fuel flow rate next year have proved not accurate enough in initial testing. Next year, with the arrival of the new turbo V6 regulations, fuel will only be allowed to flow into the engine at a prescribed speed.

Correspondent Tobias Gruner said a British company called Gill HySpeed was awarded the contract by the FIA to supply the fuel flow rate sensors, which were tested at the young drivers test earlier this year.

"The result was worrying," Gruner revealed. "Instead of the maximum permitted deviation of 0.5 per cent for the specified flow rate, the error (margin) was actually up to 1.5 per cent."

The British company has been working to fix the problem, but if the solution is ultimately deemed not good enough, the FIA would have to rely on information provided only by F1’s engine suppliers. If this happens to be the case, accusations of cheating would surely follow

More problems for the FIA to sort out.
picard This is just bloody stupid! The whole point of switching to smaller, turbo-charged V6 engines was to save fuel...yet they want to take fuel efficiency even further by restricting flow rates?

This is has reached the point of sheer insanity. F1 really IS becoming an engineering challenge, more than a motorsport. I despair!


That last bit also sounds warning bells loudly in my head. We've been having arguments over aerodynamics and illegal fuel mixtures for years...now they want to introduce yet another bone of contention for the teams to chew on...
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:12 pm

Talking of the FIA, they come up with something new for the fans. They have announced a new fan-voting award, whereby the fans can vote for their favourite 'moment of the year'. Great Rolling Eyes 

The award which is named 'moment of the year' will be awarded at the end of year awards in Paris. Surely it's the Multi 21/Malaysia incident or Kimi leaving for the airport ten minutes into a race Laugh 

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Post by ShahenshahG Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:47 am

Fans should put their own favourite forward - The slowest pit stop in each race.

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:55 pm

John wrote:Talking of the FIA, they come up with something new for the fans. They have announced a new fan-voting award, whereby the fans can vote for their favourite 'moment of the year'. Great Rolling Eyes 

The award which is named 'moment of the year' will be awarded at the end of year awards in Paris. Surely it's the Multi 21/Malaysia incident or Kimi leaving for the airport ten minutes into a race Laugh 

One of those, or the crowd's reaction to Vettel at Monza. Wink
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