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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:19 am

Is he the best striker in the world?

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Post by CFCNick on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:26 am

Yes. But at the same time he doesn't scare me. The fact he's won the league pretty much every season of his career is an awesome stat too. Pub quiz question in 10-15 years.


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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:30 am

I hate it when commentators say that he is overrated because he never proves himself against English teams. His destruction of England last year ended that debate.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:32 am

How much do you think Ibra would be worth if he was sold to an EPL club? A team like Arsenal would love a player like Ibrahimovic.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:35 am

I would say he is the best striker in the world.

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Post by CFCNick on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:40 am

I wouldn't go over £40m. £80m if you're Real Madrid.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:43 am

he has scored 4 goals in the champions league today, he might end up top goal scorer in the champs league this year

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Post by CFCNick on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:44 am

Ricardo Carvalho scored twice against Anderlecht once.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:45 am

It was a friendly game not too sure how much stock you can place in that game, in competitive games he's not really shone against the english teams or england. I'm not even sure he's done too much against the best teams in europe, he tends to shine against the lesser quality sides. He shows glimpses of brilliance but I wouldn't place him alongside Falcao, Suarez or Van Persie though.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:50 am

in 550 appearances he has 284 goals and 107 assists

94 appearances for sweden he has 46 goals

success in the dutch league the italian league the french league and he was even successful in the spanish league where he scored 22 goals in 46 appearances.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:51 am

I judge it more on how he performs instead of just statistics like you Chris.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:56 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:I hate it when commentators say that he is overrated because he never proves himself against English teams. His destruction of England last year ended that debate.
A friendly, a game that didn't matter.

Didn't see him too much during the game that did matter against England at Euro 2012.

4 goals tonight though, cracking achievement. Can he do it when the pressure's really on though?

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:57 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I judge it more on how he performs instead of just statistics like you Chris.
So you are going to ignore his goal scoring record and his assist record and instead judge his performances on how he performs? ho do you judge a striker's performance if you are not looking at goals and assists? how many step overs he does?

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:59 am

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:I hate it when commentators say that he is overrated because he never proves himself against English teams. His destruction of England last year ended that debate.
A friendly, a game that didn't matter.

Didn't see him too much during the game that did matter against England at Euro 2012.

4 goals tonight though, cracking achievement. Can he do it when the pressure's really on though?
did you see his goal at the weekend? great finish.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:02 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:I judge it more on how he performs instead of just statistics like you Chris.
So you are going to ignore his goal scoring record and his assist record and instead judge his performances on how he performs? ho do you judge a striker's performance if you are not looking at goals and assists? how many step overs he does?
That's precisely what I'm doing, you can't judge a players worth by a piece of paper.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:06 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:I hate it when commentators say that he is overrated because he never proves himself against English teams. His destruction of England last year ended that debate.
A friendly, a game that didn't matter.

Didn't see him too much during the game that did matter against England at Euro 2012.

4 goals tonight though, cracking achievement. Can he do it when the pressure's really on though?
did you see his goal at the weekend? great finish.

I did. A thing of beauty wasn't it?

He's certainly got all the talent in the world, just hope he doesn't waste it.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:10 am

CFCNick wrote:Yes. But at the same time he doesn't scare me. The fact he's won the league pretty much every season of his career is an awesome stat too. Pub quiz question in 10-15 years.
I think he has won the league in something like 10 out of the last 11 seasons either in Italy, Spain or France.

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Post by CFCNick on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:22 am

01-02 & 03-04 at Ajax. Then 04-05 & 05-06 at Juve were taken back (05-06 given to Inter), 06-07, 07-08 & 08-09 with Inter, 09-10 Barca, 10-11 with Milan, 12-13 with PSG.

Without counting the Juve Calciopoli titles it's 8 in 12 years or taken out the years as well as the titles 8 in 10.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:59 am

Ibrahimovic's 3rd goal tonight.

It was timed at 130kph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxms6tG5uw

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:47 pm

Last night's four goals were something special. The first was a well-timed run for a tap in, the second a beautiful flick between his legs (very skilful move), the 93mph thunderbolt for the hat-trick, then a superb finish on the fourth. One of the best hat-tricks I've seen for a long time there.

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Post by dummy_half on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:23 pm

No doubt that on his good days he is fantastic (last night and the friendly against England). The only criticism that puts him short of the level of Messi and Ronaldo is that he doesn't perform at this level consistently enough - has too many games where he is shut out and gets into a grump.

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Zlatan`s third.....wow! Love how he's stepped up his game this season, Cavani who????

Agree, he don't perform like this every game but he's an incredible player.

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Post by CFCNick on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:33 pm

Drogba's better.

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Post by Guest on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:41 pm

Not at football he's not.

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Post by J.Benson II on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:17 am

In terms of ability, yes, he is the best foward in the world.

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Post by monty junior on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:21 am

In terms of talent I think he's the best player in the world, he wow's me more than Ronaldo for sure, who is more of a superb athlete but the selection of goal's Ibra can score is better than any other player.

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Post by Guest on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:24 am

Since Dennis Bergkamp anyway...

If Zlatan had the work ethic of Ryan Giggs, he'd have been the best player in world history.

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