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Post by GSC on Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

It was always going to be hard for Hughton.

The Norwich family never really took to him as one of their own
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Post by mystiroakey on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:17 pm

yep betting is a mugs game especially if you cant afford it.

The amount is relative to the individual though.

I heard there are high profile footballers that have been getting PAYDAY Loans to fund their habits- These are footballers that could be clearing 40k a week!!

Bettings fun. But always stick to a budget you can afford.

no more that 5% of your earnings..

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Post by CFCNick on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:18 pm

Vicky Pollard at Chelsea today. In the corner behind Ashley.

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Post by kingraf on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:25 pm

Great advice on betting, Mystir. Personally, I believe - use your winnings to pay for future bets, thus avoiding dipping into your personal income. Only works if you have a reasonable success rate, of course.
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Post by kingraf on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:25 pm

If you don't, you should probably stop betting anyway.
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Post by Duty281 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:31 pm

My advice on betting is very simple:

Get all the cash you can get your hands on, and then lump it on England to triumph in Brazil.

A sizeable return on that investment awaits next summer.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:33 pm

O dear Nando should of scored

Lovely movement, he probably has the best movement of any striker in this league, but the shot was beyond dreadful. Great game so far.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:33 pm

1-0 Chelsea

Tap in for Schurle, goal made by Torres, he did so well there to create that goal.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:39 pm

What an effort by Torres!!!!! Chelsea bossing it.

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Post by kingraf on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:40 pm

Just checked the odds - currently 20-25/1 for England to lift the gold in Brazil. Might not be the worst advice ever given Duty... Won't do it, but decent odds nonetheless.

Chelsea win this, and I can't see them not winning the league
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:41 pm

Torres is on #flames
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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:49 pm

Some really good stuff from Chelsea in that first half. Torres looking very fizzy indeed.

City not really at the races yet.

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Post by CFCNick on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:55 pm

On a betting note William Hill have Ibra at 9/2 to score two or more goals today.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:56 pm

NUFC - horribly inconsistent, just a mess today - lucky equaliser really, although we dominated possession, we created nothing great. Dummett well out of depth, gouffran......did he even touch the ball, woeful signing. Cisse should be flogged. Just an appalling result, Sunderland are still dog••••.

Good to see Torres on fire, should be a good second half.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:08 pm

What a ping from Sergio Aguero

1-1

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Post by whocares on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:19 pm

Gouffran transfer was 4mil I think and yet earn more than Giroud apparently. Interesting debate that Giroud vs Caroll but might need to put things into perspective. Is Giroud over rated? Well depend what you were expexting... A 12mil euro price tag doesnt give you a worldclass striker nowadays. However if you get a honest hard working striker that does the required job with a smile then you got a good deal. Now how much west ham paid for Caroll?

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:32 pm

We paid too much for Carroll!! An over-rated waste of space!

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:36 pm

CF wrote:We paid too much for Carroll!! An over-rated waste of space!
Why did you spend £5 mil on him? he spent 18 months being utter rubbish at liverpool then went to west ham on loan and was very average for 12 months not scoring many goals.

Why did West ham then decide after 2 1/2 years of carroll being very average to spend 15 mil on him?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:38 pm

People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:39 pm

1-0 spurs. absolutely desperate penalty shout from the players for handball and it was awarded, soldado calmly puts it away

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:40 pm

Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:41 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:43 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:44 pm

Agree with Olly

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:44 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:45 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:47 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:47 pm

he's useless, and i wish we never signed him!

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Post by CFCNick on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:48 pm

TORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:48 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.
7 goals and 4 assists, says it all

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Post by CFCNick on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:49 pm

Thanks Hart and Nastasic I think

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:50 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.
7 goals and 4 assists, says it all
Yes because stats are the be all and end all of football Rolling Eyes 
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Post by CFCNick on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:51 pm

Say what you want about Torres but you'll run out of fingers counting how many BIG goals he's scored!

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:54 pm

Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:People did watch Carroll at West Ham last year right?

If you did, you'll understand the purchase
he was average, 25 appearances and 7 goals.
Again if you watched West Ham last year with Carroll, you'll understand the purchase.
Again he was average, scored very few goals and was way too injury prone.
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No you're really not. Dolph (proper Hammer) will put you straight when he's on.
7 goals and 4 assists, says it all
Yes because stats are the be all and end all of football Rolling Eyes 
Well stats are something that is neutral, everything else is opinion.

I don't believe Carroll is worth 15 mil because he just doesn't score enough goals. 24 appearances and 7 goals for west ham last year. Season before that at liverpool he played 35 league games and scored 4 goals.

Add to the fact that Carroll is injury prone. He missed a large chunk of the 09-10 season. Missed a chunk of the 12-13 season and has already missed all of the 13-14 season so far.

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Post by kingraf on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:01 pm

Absolutely nothing this weekend changed my view that it's Chelsea vs Arsenal for the title.
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Post by kingraf on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:09 pm

Also, Carroll gets seriously unfair flak. Players (not named Ibrahimovich) dont evaluate themselves. Can't hold his fee against him. He's been decent enough in the England set-up to make me think he is probably above playing for West Ham (absolutely no offence meant in that to Hammers).

To paraphrase basketball commentator Stan van Gundy, "If you compare his cost with his output, it's always going to look bad"
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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:23 pm

Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:27 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.
Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith thumbsup 
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Post by mystiroakey on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:34 pm

Gotta love mourinho..

Class act.

But Hart imploded.. Crazy decsion

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:42 pm

Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.
Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith thumbsup 
Don't worry he isn't agreeing with you because he agrees with you he is agreeing with you so that he can disagree with me.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:44 pm

Olly wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Olly

There's no point bringing any sort of objectivity into a debate with C_S aka Chris because he knows frak all about sport beyond what wikipedia tells him. Carroll was central to everything good that West Ham did last season, he brings others into the game like Nolan and while he doesn't score much that isn't why Allardyce bought him.
Thankfully someone sees football. Spot on about Carroll/West Ham Hammersmith thumbsup 
carroll is not worth 15 million that is the debate. Lack of goals, lack of assists and injury prone = not worth 15 mil.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Try watching him play instead of using statistics Chris, he's not a stats based player.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:45 pm

Carroll is worth every penny of the money we spent on him when hes on the field. Hopefully, the injuries dont keep coming, latest one is extremely unlucky. Im more depressed seeing CF post about West Ham, he is the definition of Poopie internet fan.

Carroll is a rather fantastic player. Better than Lambert, yet for some reason cos Liverpool overpaid for him it means hes a bad player. Theres no (proper) fans of football clubs he has played at that dont rate him.

On West Ham, good point today. Should have scored at least 2 in the first half. Swansea grew into it second half but dont look the team of last year, Europe is taking it out of them. All the chances were ours, happy to let them have possession in front of us. Only started having to hang on late on as players tired. Nolan is doing nothing to earn his place at the moment and is the only negative really. He needs Andy back as much as anyone else

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:50 pm

[quote="Hammersmith harrier"]Try watching him play instead of using statistics Chris, he's not a stats based player.[/quote]
He's always injured idea 

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:56 pm

It's not worth wasting time on. Its a preconceived opinion that cant be changed. I've seen him smash very good defenders to pieces, I've seen him beat midfielders with a deft touch and spin, score headers from outside the area with his own power and strike balls sweeter than any player in the Premier League. Theres very few other strikers in the Premier League I would rather have, none at Chelsea, Spurs or Arsenal definitely. Says a lot.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:09 pm

Carroll is a fantastic talent - at least he will be if he shakes off the injuries!

He's just a presence. Tall, strong, technically very good for a big man, and a cracking left foot to match. He also has a lovely array of deft skills in his inventory; touches, flicks, I even think I saw him do a Cruyff turn once!

Always feel he'll be part of a fantastic race for the England no.9 shirt with Sturridge for years to come. I remember that header he scored against Sweden at Euro 2012 - the sheer power of it!

Good to see Chelsea beat Citeh today - really hope Citeh don't finish top 4 this season. Tottenham have ground out another win. They're doing it without a fuss, much like Everton and Southampton, in the top half of the table.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:16 pm

very happy with a 0-0 against swansea. Very good point and much needed clean sheet!

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Post by Stella on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:31 pm

Is that both Manchester clubs out of the title race? A little premature possibly but I didn't fancy either before we started and I certainly don't now.

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:39 pm

Said Swansea were not gr8 this season, bony/michu combo has not worked n they are just forcing their play - no rhythm chopping n changing the line up with Europa games. Always catches you out.

Completely agree with Olly on Carroll. Thought he was brilliant when he played, yeah he's not majorly prolific but his general play n bringing out the qualities of other people/wingers etc n providing Nolan with another double figure goal tally of knockdowns is clear.

Hart/Nastasic picard 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:50 pm

Carroll is not worth 15 million. This season if he returns from injury will be his worst season ever.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:51 pm

John wrote:Said Swansea were not gr8 this season, bony/michu combo has not worked n they are just forcing their play - no rhythm chopping n changing the line up with Europa games. Always catches you out.

Completely agree with Olly on Carroll. Thought he was brilliant when he played, yeah he's not majorly prolific but his general play n bringing out the qualities of other people/wingers etc n providing Nolan with another double figure goal tally of knockdowns is clear.

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Can't wait for Liverpool/Arsenal - what a test Sturridge/Suarez against Mertesacker! Should be interesting. None of the big guns r out the title, we`re in blimin` October.
Bony has not been that impressive but it is his 1st season in a new league.

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