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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 10 Nov - 17:57

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Swansea 3-2 Stoke

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 13 Nov - 16:36

hampo171 wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:its not whether he's a 20 goal a season man more his overall contribution to the team why we brought RVP in

think the fairest way would be to judge him on starts, in the prem

10/11-   starts - 15 goals -13
11/12 -  starts-  18 goals - 10
12/13  - starts -  9  goals - 10

think those stats suggest that if he started more games he would easily be bagging 20 a season in the prem, let alone all comps
Surely those stats are his overall goals though? How many of those goals where in games that he started? Personally I think he's a fantastic impact player, great off the bench but by him starting it makes the game plan predictable.
yeah meant to say that, his overall goals, i couldnt find any stats that gave the breakdown. but just as much as he might have bagged off the bench im sure he had many 15 mins cameos that didnt come to much at all which would also make his stats look poorer. the majority of those goals im sure came from starts, despite this super sub imagine he has gained

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Post by Ent on Wed 13 Nov - 17:11

He'd prob get 20+ a season, but the team wouldn't do as well. RVP has much more to his all round games and provides similar, if not more, goal output.

Really like Hernandez, just a real pity we can't get him into the side more regularly.

Interpret the stats with caution, he scored some off the bench whilst fresh and when we were pushing for winners etc.

Not seen movement like his in the box in a long long time, great thing for anyone wanting to appreciate movement or learn from to observe. If Berbatov had moved like this guy we'd have had some player.

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Post by Guest on Wed 13 Nov - 17:59

You know its international week when people have to start talking nonsense & questioning Hernandez's ability. RVP had to be bought, he was available & the best striker in the previous year. Fergie knew it & got him, huge psychological boost to United, major setback for City. Hernandez could bang 20 goals in his sleep at United playing 38 games. He is a classy finisher & box operator. RVP offers more rounded game, hence why he`s chosen, not because Hernandez is poor. Also, slating Javier for that bobble miss in Europe is just embarrassing. Don't know who it was but you also said it was in a Carling cup game, says everything about your knowledge of what's happening. As far as I'm aware Liverpool are out the cup because of.......Hernandez. Thank you & goodnight

Also for Mexico 35 goals in 50 odd apps.... picard 

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 13 Nov - 18:39

He might not get 20 you know, but he'd definitely get upwards of 15. It is a bloody good job getting 20 goals in this league.

In terms of teams who could still prosper without their first choice front two.

Dzeko and Jovetic > Welbeck and Hernandez > Any of Chelsea's > the rest. Arsenal are limited, Spurs are worse and Liverpool arent in great shakes. So damn important strikers, as you can see from the fact that we'll go down if we don't get Carroll back by halfway or we don't get another good option in.

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Post by Ent on Wed 13 Nov - 18:58

League goals I'd agree dolph, but if we are talking all competitions I'd say 20 is easily manageable.

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 11:03

True Hernandez is a class act and goals per minute he is well up there. Clearly becoming the new super sub(solsker)

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 14 Nov - 18:52

There will never be a new Solskjaer, not until said player comes off the bench in a champions league final to score the winning goal.

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 18:59

Ok reading back this was all about would united be ok without the front two..

Although yes henendez and wellbeck seem a pretty amazing no 2 unit.

Where are the two king assisters!!

Rooney and RVP are a whole lot more than scoring goals, they do a big job for united.. They are not your typical goal scorers!

United have a gaping whole at CM which would be shown up with the no.2 strike force

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 14 Nov - 19:18

From the team that hired investigators to go through the bins of West Ham board members, I bring you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-24940529

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Post by PaulHv2 on Thu 14 Nov - 19:27

Pathetic.
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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 19:28

Totenham should pay them to change it- thats a lot of money for a small club

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 19:44

under 21's kicking off.

Zaha Very Happy 

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Post by Guest on Thu 14 Nov - 22:41

3-0, Berahino with a double & then booked for taking his shirt off with a message for his Dad who passed away. Ref picard 

Just seen Kalou's been offered to Arsenal apparently. Another picard 

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 22:45

Berahino was sharp!


Morrison and zaha average today.



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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 14 Nov - 22:47

Kalou or Giroud is a tough call........... lol

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Thu 14 Nov - 23:01

mystiroakey wrote:Berahino was sharp!


Morrison and zaha average today.


You're telling me Mysti, the best player who ever lived Zaha was average? Shocked 

Good to see Berhanio get 2 goals, really like the look of him. Hope a big side snap him up next summer.

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 14 Nov - 23:21

I still think Owen Hargreaves was banging on about him way to much and probably deserves to never commentate ever again!

The coverage was way to Zaha centric. Oh look he tried that ,blah blah!

Oh if you take it round to many players they will take you out and get a yellow card!! er- if to many players do that there wont be any left!

He rarely had anyone to pass to!! and hargreaves failed to mentioned that he actually won bags of free kicks!





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Post by Mat on Fri 15 Nov - 16:47

NickisBHAFC wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Berahino was sharp!


Morrison and zaha average today.


You're telling me Mysti, the best player who ever lived Zaha was average? Shocked 

Good to see Berhanio get 2 goals, really like the look of him. Hope a big side snap him up next summer.
I don't. Completely destroy his development if he did. Much better staying with us...he says hopefully.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 15 Nov - 17:44

From what I heard Morrison did fine, Berahino looked class and Zaha was doing too much faffing again.

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Post by Duty281 on Fri 15 Nov - 18:08

Mat wrote:
NickisBHAFC wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Berahino was sharp!


Morrison and zaha average today.


You're telling me Mysti, the best player who ever lived Zaha was average? Shocked 

Good to see Berhanio get 2 goals, really like the look of him. Hope a big side snap him up next summer.
I don't. Completely destroy his development if he did. Much better staying with us...he says hopefully.
I agree Mat. Look at Zaha last season for Palace - considered to have a fair chance then for the World Cup squad, moves to United, now has no chance. Ditto Jack Rodwell, only he moved to Citeh.

For 15 million. Laugh

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Post by mystiroakey on Fri 15 Nov - 18:17

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:From what I heard Morrison did fine, Berahino looked class and Zaha was doing too much faffing again.
nah morrison was pretty bad in fairness and rightly came off, Zaha played pretty well in comparison to morrison but not his best

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 22 Nov - 16:50

RVW out another two weeks with this toe injury. Bunn also injured a month.

Pulis fav for the Palace job
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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Nov - 16:53

Don't worry Olly, we only turn up for the big sides. Wouldn't surprise me to see you win at our place, just like Hull did. Typical NUFC.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 22 Nov - 16:57

Yeah I am strangely more confident after your wins against Chelsea and spurs! Think it'll be a draw tho
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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Nov - 19:01

I read an interesting article from the BBC website (tends to be rarer and rarer occurrence nowadays) - analysing what has been happening at Southampton FC and giving an explanation of their current success:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25040893

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 7:58

More that's a good read indeed!

Probably because it wasn't written by McNulty!!!
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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 23 Nov - 9:57

Pulis looks nailed on.

Probably saw that last goalless draw and got all exited

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 23 Nov - 11:52

Any predictions out there?

Everton 2-2 Liverpool
Arsenal 2-1 Saints
Fulham 1-1 Swansea
Hull 2-1 Palace
Newcastle 2-0 Norwich
Stoke 1-1 Sunderland
West Ham 0-3 Chelsea

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Sat 23 Nov - 11:56

sunderland will beat stoke and swansea will beat fulham but agree with the rest

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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 23 Nov - 12:00

Everton 1-2 Liverpool
Arsenal 2-1 Saints
Fulham 0-2 Swansea
Hull 0-1 Palace
Newcastle 2-2 Norwich
Stoke 0-0 Sunderland
West Ham 0-3 Chelsea


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 14:05

Norwich City FC ‏@NorwichCityFC
#NCFC team v @NUFCOfficial: Ruddy; Martin (c), Turner, R Bennett, Olsson; Johnson, Fer, Howson; Redmond, Pilkington, Hooper.

Bradley Johnson. I give up
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 14:16

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 14:27

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Post by JamesLincs on Sat 23 Nov - 14:30

brilliant derby

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Post by Fernando on Sat 23 Nov - 14:33

3-3 Sturridge

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Post by Guest on Sat 23 Nov - 14:37

The art of defending is well and truly dead

Quality game though

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Post by Ent on Sat 23 Nov - 14:38

It's what the pl is all about, crap exciting football Wink

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Post by Guest on Sat 23 Nov - 14:39

In the end, the winners of this are Arsenal remaining top.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Sat 23 Nov - 14:40

What a game to start the day off, I'd love to here why Dowd didn't send Merelles off though. That was a truely awful challenge, and even his consistent fouling in the second half wasn't enough for a second yellow.
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Post by TheCultOfPersonality on Sat 23 Nov - 14:59

Early contender for match of the season? Excellent merseyside derby. Everton should have won it with the amount of chances they hand but Mignolet played very well. Also, young Flanagan had a great game, stepped up big time.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 15:03

Bradley Johnson is so Frak Poopie
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Post by Guest on Sat 23 Nov - 15:03

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOICY BABY

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Post by Fernando on Sat 23 Nov - 15:06

#HughtonOut


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 23 Nov - 15:10

Please take Johnson off already. Or someone injure him. Please
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Post by Duty281 on Sat 23 Nov - 15:10

Will Hughton see out the weekend as Norwich manager?

Sounds like a fantastic Merseyside Derby to kick the weekend off as well.

Interesting to note - Southamtpon could be top of the league at 5:00 PM. Southampton top of the league in late November? Well I never.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 23 Nov - 15:15

Purely because it was Suarez I always feel a yellow is deserved instead of a red, such a disgraceful player deserves what he gets. Well done Mirallas.

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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 23 Nov - 15:20

You mean red over yellow

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 23 Nov - 15:22

I mean Mirallas got a yellow and deserved his yellow, no more no less.

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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 23 Nov - 15:24

I didn't see it.

So your saying it's ok for players to do anything they want to Suarez and never get a red.

Err ok

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 23 Nov - 15:26

They could break his legs for all I care Mysti, he has no place in the english game, the sooner we're rid of him the better.

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