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Post by The Fourth Lion on Mon 23 Dec 2013, 11:41 pm

So.... here we are again at Christmas, except, it never really seems to go away completely, does it?   No sooner do we finish paying for this year's winter season of excess, then it will be time to start thinking about the next one.
 
Firstly, let me say this:  I love Christmas.  I know not everybody does, but I do.  I don't mind going shopping with the Me'm Sahib, or putting up the tree and decorations, or even wearing a silly jumper on Christmas day.  What I do enjoy the most is having my family with me, especially the grandchildren.  They turn the house into bedlam but it's a happy madness that I'm more than willing to embrace.  I love my grandchildren.  I wish I'd had them first.
 
But not everybody relishes Christmas and I can understand that.  When I pause to consider the point of view of those who wish it had never been invented, it's easy to see why they dislike it.   Of all the many objections to the "Season of Goodwill", it is probably the relentless nature of it all that is most conspicuous, returning year after year as a determined assault on our senses.  This is based on a commercial belief amongst the TV companies, discount sofa warehouses, and just about everybody who is determined to aggressively retail their concept of Christmas:  That what we all want from this obligatory, impossible-to-ignore winter holiday is some kind of ideal condition of festive rapture.... a soaring, cost-a-fortune, force-fed form of strangulation to be experienced through a commercial vision of festive ultimacy:  Ice dancing with Chris and Jayne on the TV, attending midnight mass (probably the only time you set foot inside a church all year) and a tiny, happy child in a manger, made out of icing on top of a cake.  
 
But actually, rather the opposite is true for many (most?) people.  They see Christmas as not something to be embraced, but to be run away from, like the unstoppable, approaching blast wave of an all consuming nuclear detonation, hurtling towards them with pulverising force.  What they want is not more Christmas, but a bit of relief from it..... a little oasis of calm amidst the dizziness;   twenty minutes alone in the kitchen or some TV entertainment anaesthesia, or perhaps even everybody sitting down for half an hour and not having arguments about brussells sprouts.
 
For many people, all they desire is a little escape from it all, and this is where the true horror of Christmas for them lies.  That feeling that they are trapped in the asylum, destined to live out a never ending recurrence of finely honed familial tension.  Not, that is, that families are completely to blame.  Friends can be worse and I have much sympathy with those sucked into the "Friends-are-the-new-family" neo-festive get togethers;  a sort of life-styled innovation intended to fool you into thinking that there is an alternative to all this human suffocation.  That instead of pretending to like novelty socks, and tut-tutting at Uncle Harry for getting pi**ed and falling asleep and snoring while everybody else was trying to listen to the Queen's speech, we can all just sit around on beanbags, listening to Take That, waiting for Jamie Oliver to come scampering in with a platter of nouvelle bacon sarnies, and everybody can cheer and snog and consume their own bodyweight in food and alcohol.
 
Suddenly, in a banter induced cold sweat, you find yourself scrambling for the back door, desperate to get out into the garden and take in the cold December air.... to draw breath for just a few moments respite from it all.
 
It isn't possible for me to offer any solution to whatever your own vision of Christmas hell may be.  The only thing I can do is wish you all the very best and I hope you get through it with your sanity intact.   I'll see you all after Boxing Day.
 
Merry Christmas.
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Post by Rowley on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 7:38 am

Like you lion I also love Christmas, no work, better stuff on the TV, catching up with friends and family I don't see anywhere near often enough and plenty of good food and drinking, what's not to love?

Have a good one everyone.

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 9:40 am

I hate Christmas.

Bloody religion. Bloody hypocrisy. Bloody families.

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Post by Hero on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 9:51 am

I'm probably at the peak of loving Christmas this year, my two sons are 7 & 6 years old and both still believers, the magic for them is there and as a result it makes for a great family time. Also this year for the first time it's just going to be the 4 of us on Christmas Day rather than extended family so it'll be lovely to cook what we all enjoy and not have to sit round with family members that frankly I don't really care about.

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Post by Scrumpy on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 9:55 am

I love Christmas,

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Post by Lumbering_Jack on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 10:24 am

I love Christmas too. Off work for 10 days after today, get to eat lots of food, drink lots of alcohol and football is on virtually all the time. I start a new job next year so this Christmas is extra special knowing I don't have to keep coming back to this Poopie hole. Happy days.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 10:26 am

Plus if the Mrs has her way we'll have a child this time next year so I really need to enjoy it while I can.

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Post by Holymiky on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 10:28 am

I love Christmas and i enjoy it.

I am off work till the 6th January and it's usually myself, my mum and my sister who have Christmas together which is usually really good but we have my sisters boyfriend and my mums boyfriend coming over for Christmas this year so thats an added bonus.

My Xbox one is being delivered today too.

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Post by Guest on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 10:58 am

I spend all year switnessing how people can come up with different ways to behave in a disgusting manner to their fellow human beings and it can be hard to reconcile that with the notion of peace and goodwill to all men after seeing the bruised face of an elderly lady whose been attacked in her home.

However, all that aside, I'm looking forward to Christmas...just felt my unborn son kicking in the womb for the first time yesterday and the look on my daughter's face when she got a personal video message from Santa was priceless.

No doubt next year will bring more of the same gloom and doom, heartache, misery and general unpleasantness but for now, I'll wish you all a very Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year.

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Post by Hero on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 11:27 am

It's an excellent piece of marketing that went viral but this is well worth watching for those that haven't seen it from WestJet airlines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEIvi2MuEk

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Post by Lumbering_Jack on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 11:59 am

Tremendous video Hero... A real feel good story.

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Post by CFCNick on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 12:41 pm

I don't love or hate Christmas. I enjoy sitting around with the family and laughing at my nephews reactions to their presents. I usually wake up in a haze/hungover state and stumble into the front room and watch it all unfold whilst Mum is in the kitchen. Then Boxing Day or the weekend after Dad comes to hand out goodies.

This is my last Christmas at home. So maybe this year will be more sentimental.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 12:54 pm

Merry Christmas everyone. Hope you're all enjoying it, my little lads only two so it's the first year he has an idea of what's going on and it's great, my daughter who's 5 will be coming up on Boxing Day so we get two christmas days essentially.
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Post by NickisBHAFC on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 1:15 pm

Best time of the year!

Hope everyone has a great day with there family's. 

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Post by VDT on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 2:10 pm

Have a amazing Christmas everyone!!!

Cheap plug time-
Steam the boredom of last minute Xmas shopping with the @V2Football Christmas Special!!!

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Post by Guest on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 2:19 pm

Cheap Plug....

Don't get one, it will seriously f**k up all your expensive electrical items.

Don't be a tight fisted git, invest in a decent one and Christmas will be a joyous time (if you like lots of electronic bleeping and blooping accompanied by screaming/arguing kids when you're trying to grab five minutes shut eye)

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Post by compelling and rich on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 3:33 pm

i love Christmas, my liver doesnt

might have to trim some friends next year and stop going out so much, im goosed already and its not even Christmas yet

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Post by Derbymanc on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 3:46 pm

Merry Christmas one and all. Looking forward to this year as it's our first for a while without extended family too, and on the 28th we get the missus's other kids (20+ age) so our twins (6) essentially get 2 Christmas's too.

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Post by Il Gialloblu on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 4:08 pm

Merry Christmas to everyone on v2.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 4:11 pm

I love Christmas because I get to see family and old friends. And it's a break, mostly. Merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by king_carlos on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 4:31 pm

Agree with that CJ. It's a very welcome excuse to see people I don't see enough of!

Merry Christmas all!

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Post by kingraf on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 4:40 pm

well I hate all of you that are off for the season. I'm only getting my leave on the 30th, and my boss has seen through my one man go slow, saying things like "I've allowed you two weeks off a month ago, and you had last week off"... I'm not emotionally equipped to work during the festive season.

Regardless, Merry Christmas to those who observe, and a capitalist happy holidays to the rest of you.
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Post by Biltong on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 5:24 pm

All I know about christmas is that it costs me a lot of money, but then I suppose it is also my own fault, I get swept away by the season and the family usually gets all they ask for.

Might bankrupt me one day, but so far I managed to survive financially.

What I like about christmas in our house is that we keep it small, we like to keep to ourselves and spend a quiet day at home, unwrapping presents, having a good old fashioned South African braai and then late afternoon we will show our faces at our family's houses.

Merry Christmas to all, I hope you are spending it with loved ones.
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Post by Cari on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 6:41 pm

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Although Christmas can be a little bit of a difficult time for me personally, I don't dislike it.  Despite the commercialism and all that goes with that, I still think it's a special time of year, and I can understand how special it is for people with kids around - be they your own or relatives.  It's a lovely time for families to get together, and many people remember those they've not seen for ages or really should keep in touch with all year round, but for one reason or another, don't.  That can't be a bad thing if it brings people together even just once a year.  I like the traditional things as well - like my local carol service which is always lovely. I tend to work during the Christmas period (it allows colleagues with kids time off), and actually it makes work highly enjoyable as we can dress down, have music on and things like that. Oh and some time off! Also, from a rugby fans' point of view, there's always sport to be enjoyed with the Christmas derbys!

I hope you all have a lovely time whatever you're doing.

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Post by Taylorman on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 6:45 pm

Describes my day perfect biltong. While the unwrappings going on I've got the Ellis park match sneakily running in the background. My partners rarotongan so she's been up cooking all night. My boys become a basketball nut and hasn't played rugby for a while much to my own disappointment...he's 6'3 at 15 so enjoys it more for now and most of our chat revolves around the NBA though we both support the ABs as you'd expect. Has all the skills for rugby but just prefers ball..each to his own I suppose.

Merry Xmas to you and yours biltong and I promise I'll tone down the ABs this ABs that next year as a new years resolution...that tack gets a bit boring and doesnt support good discussion...and besides...I'm waiting for a well overdue spanking by the boks anyway so I'd better get that humble pie ready...

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Post by Cari on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 6:49 pm

Oh!  Someone mentioned the fat man in the suit earlier...he's on the go!

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Post by Biltong on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 7:15 pm

Cheers Taylorman, Merry Christmas to you and yours, enjoy the day with your mrs and son.

No worries about speaking your mind about your team, we are all passionate supporters and we tend to let our mouths (or fingers) run away from us at times.
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Post by aucklandlaurie on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 9:35 pm


Merry christmas everyone,

I can give you the heads up though, but so far Christmas day all its done is rain.

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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 10:00 pm

Here too Laurie... raining a little. I'm staring at one wet kookaburra.

Merry Christmas to everyone... and may you all have a peaceful few hours (away from sport).

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 11:06 pm


My faves are The Pogues...Fairytale of New York and Boney Ms Marys boy child.

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Dec 2013, 11:08 pm

Yeah , Merry Christmas to all , and I hope the weather eases a bit for my English friends - understand it is pretty gruesome at present !

Sunny here in Melbourne. Might be a bit too hot later on (lot of driving to do visiting family members ) but I'm sure we'll have a pleasant day , if tiring.

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Post by GloriousEmpire on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 12:41 pm

Life is, in general, what you make it.

If You get into the Christmas spirit and enjoy it then it's a small magic window where cynicism and negativity can be banished even if by ritual.

If on the other hand, You choose to make it a focal point for your resentment of life in general then it will reinforce your miseries.

The choice is really up to the individual.

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Post by Galted on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 1:11 pm

Oi, GE, stop being so controversial, you're clearly just trying to get a reaction out of people.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 5:43 pm

GloriousEmpire wrote:Life is, in general, what you make it.

If You get into the Christmas spirit and enjoy it then it's a small magic window where cynicism and negativity can be banished even if by ritual.

If on the other hand, You choose to make it a focal point for your resentment of life in general then it will reinforce your miseries.

The choice is really up to the individual.

What if you think all religion is pretty horrible as a whole, and you have no wish to partake?

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Post by flyhalffactory on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 8:12 pm

If Christmas is only one thing, maybe a time for putting a stake in the ground for helping those that need help, forgiving and starting afresh then its gotta be good. Hope you all have a great time, enjoy in whatever way you can.

Nollaig Chridheil agus Bliadhna Mhath ùr,  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda, Nollaig Shona Duit

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Post by GloriousEmpire on Wed 25 Dec 2013, 9:20 pm

Duty281 wrote:
GloriousEmpire wrote:Life is, in general, what you make it.

If You get into the Christmas spirit and enjoy it then it's a small magic window where cynicism and negativity can be banished even if by ritual.

If on the other hand, You choose to make it a focal point for your resentment of life in general then it will reinforce your miseries.

The choice is really up to the individual.

What if you think all religion is pretty horrible as a whole, and you have no wish to partake?

I'd argue Christmas has evolved into a secular economic vacation as much as it has religious roots. Much of the economy is structured around it, especially in retail obviously; but a large amount of secondary and service industries support it. For those not directly involved it gives us a break and time to spend with our friends and families. I'm not religious. Religion makes me annoyed mostly, but I enjoy Christmas time for what it provides.

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Post by nganboy on Thu 26 Dec 2013, 10:52 am

I like Christmas - spent 2 days with the extended family. 15 adults and 5 little kids. All good lots of great food, a little booze and almost all good happiness. No God for my family just a chance to spend a few days together.
I hope everyone enjoyed their days in their own ways.
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