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Post by Hero on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 7:20 am

First topic message reminder :

This doesn't sound good at all.

Trouble in paradise.

Just one night after he was the Iron Man in the Royal Rumble match, lasting some 48 minutes from the number one entry spot, CM Punk wasn't booked to appear on Monday Night Raw. This was due to a number of rewrites demanded by Chairman of the Board Vince McMahon.

Now comes a report from the Wrestling Observer that says Punk told McMahon that very night that he was going home before doing just that and, as of right now, he is off all WWE shows going forward.

There isn't any information available outside of that right now. Punk hasn't tweeted anything out since praising fans following the Royal Rumble event this past Sunday night in Pittsburgh.

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Post by VoiceOfTheVoiceless on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 5:54 pm

Wouldn't surprise me for him to turn up at Chicago Raw as a fan and attack the authority. Not convinced its big a work yet.

Those fans could of been a plant.

It just all seems abit obvious all this blatant ignorance of his existence

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Post by owen10ozzy on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 6:16 pm

I'm not sure it seems blatant in the sense it becomes so obvious it has to be a work;

It stinks of the higher powers exercising their controls and egos to be honest and is something Vince & HHH etc will happily do to prove a point to both Punk and the smarks who continue to disrupt the shows.

I just hope it completely back fires and we end up with 3 of their best workers quitting the company in the next 12 months...Bryan, Punk & Ziggler. It's the type of kick in the teeth I think they need to actually start to take notice....that and the fans ensuring the network bombs when it comes. One thing is for sure...if Batista v Brock headlines Wrestlemania and Bryan doesn't get his pay off then RAW the night after Mania is going to be a fan classic!

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Post by CenaNuff on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 2:23 am

lol, they were muting the CM Punk chants last night, obviously they are trying to erase his existence from WWE. No way is this a work.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 4:15 pm


There's a RAW coming up in Chicago fairly soon isn't there?

That will be f***ing carnage!

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 4:29 pm


Sorry, just saw Nick and Voice's posts about there being a RAW in Chicago.

The point about the f***ing carnage still stands though!  Smile

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 5:10 pm

God, if it is a work we'll know that night.

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Post by Samo on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 5:17 pm

You'd imagine that they would announce something about his departure before hand, to make a surprise return that night in Chicago and mark the F out moment.

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Post by JamesLincs on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:28 pm

cm punk says he agrees to come back and wants a free mic for a promo. only to deliver a legit retirement speech? gets chucked out the building by an attending vince mcmahon and we never see him in wwe again. RIOT!

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:34 pm


If Punk's not back by then I REALLY hope they open that RAW with an in-ring Triple H / Steph promo.

The heat would be nuclear.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:47 pm

Ill imagine they will keep them off screen all night tbh.

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Post by JamesLincs on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:55 pm

im not sure they should. bryan i imagine will get a huge ovation, probably the biggest he'll ever get. while the appearances of the likes of batista, triple h, stephanie and probably orton too, will cause near rioting!

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Post by Crimey on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 7:19 pm

They will probably use Bryan quite a lot in the show to try and get the crowd supporting him and chanting for him instead of Punk. I, to a certain extent, supported the chants for Daniel Bryan when he's not involved because the crowd want to see him pushed but not sure what they expect to happen with the Punk chants, it's Punk who has gone home not WWE who have sent him home.

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 7:50 pm


The fans will always back the wrestlers against the big, bad wrestling company regardless of why they walk out. Probably because it's easier to blame the machine rather than see their favourites in a negative light.

I also get the feeling that there may be some fans who see Punk walking out as a tie-in with the Daniel Bryan situation, in that they think he walked out in part because of the mistreatment of Bryan/Batista's return and push.

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Post by The Best in the World on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm

It's not a work. When the WWE have publicly said nothing you know something is seriously wrong. One one hand you have Punk as a fed up man who was worked his a$$ off for a long time and now is getting pushed out of the way by a 45 year old Batista, and who is fed up of people like Bryan not getting what they deserve

However you also have Punk who is making a big deal out of this situation and almost like a throwing your toys out of the pram moment. You could say that he has let all of his fans down, just going like that

Again however, if you didn't like your job anymore and weren't happy, you would quit wouldn't you?!
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Post by The Best in the World on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 7:57 pm

I do however think that between now and Chicago Raw, Punk and WWE will sort something out and he will return then, making the crowd go absolutely nuts
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 8:04 pm

The Punk chants will be to support him. They wont expect anything to happen, not sure thats ever really what its about, its about supporting something they feels needs the backing. It'll be ramped up for Punk

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Post by x12x on Wed 05 Feb 2014, 9:03 pm

The Best in the World wrote:Again however, if you didn't like your job anymore and weren't happy, you would quit wouldn't you?!

My thoughts exactly, people seem to have these ridiculously high standards when it comes to this and athletes. Like when a footballer is offered a better contract and leaves a club for more money and a chance to play in world class teams.

If I hated my job and could afford to leave I would...who here would stay somewhere they were unhappy if they didn't need too? I don't blame Punk...it'll be a shame to see him go but I get it.

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Post by Jammy31 on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 12:10 am

Part of me is just hoping that he's gone on a break, but didn't give WWE time to write in a story as to why he'd be disappearing for a bit. Maybe as a "Let's see how they deal with me gone" kind of thing. I can imagine his body is pretty battered, and as he is now 35 (I think), I can't see his body wanting to heal as quickly as it used to.
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Post by Bluebird_ccfc on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 10:27 am

I found the below on YouTube last night which I found interesting. I know he talks about other things as well as wwe but I was surprised to hear his contract runs out in the summer yet they haven't even spoken to him about renewing. It was filmed just before the royal rumble.

https://youtu.be/wHIJlSXdq3s
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Post by JamesLincs on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 11:09 am

good find that bluebird. after the first 7 minutes you could tell hes completely fed up

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 1:49 pm

CM Punk is just a cry baby. Yes he had his week, but he should just return now. Getting boring. Man up i say.

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Post by JamesLincs on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 1:56 pm

hmm

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Post by Kay Fabe on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 2:36 pm

 
NickisBHAFC wrote:CM Punk is just a cry baby. Yes he had his week, but he should just return now. Getting boring. Man up i say.

Laugh why?

Punk was probably in line for the biggest Pay-Day of his career, I'd say to Man Up would be to take a stand against something you believe in, something you're passinate about, not to just accept something because it'll make him a bucket load of cash

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Post by bretmeharty on Fri 07 Feb 2014, 4:48 pm

I wish punk had done this before Bryan was as over as he is.

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Post by talkingpoint on Sat 08 Feb 2014, 8:27 am

NickisBHAFC wrote:CM Punk is just a cry baby. Yes he had his week, but he should just return now. Getting boring. Man up i say.

This just sounds so hollow to me. Wrestling fans love to voice their opinions and objections to wrestlers who aren`t given the push they deserve (Daniel Bryan being a good example), but when Punk quits over feeling unappreciated or heldback from being "the man", wrestling fans condemn him for being a cry baby. If we as fans feel so passionately about who should and who should not be pushed, don`t you think wrestlers themselves feel so too, probably even more so because they`ve dedicated their lives to the industry.

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Post by Jammy31 on Sat 08 Feb 2014, 2:34 pm

Not sure if this has been put on here before, but found this from 24th January -

https://youtu.be/9si8cIjAaVo
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Post by The Best in the World on Mon 17 Feb 2014, 9:34 pm

word now is that he got his release from WWE on Friday and people close to him have reported that he has told them he is done
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Post by JamesLincs on Tue 18 Feb 2014, 12:46 am

told you so Wink

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Post by Hulking_up on Tue 18 Feb 2014, 9:10 am

I read this on another forum.

Regarding the earlier report that talk within WWE was the company granted CM Punk his release this past Friday, Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer reports that WWE is officially stating that Punk has not been released. Another person in the company also contacted them and said the report was incorrect.

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Post by liverbnz on Sun 02 Mar 2014, 7:49 pm

Spoiler:
So Punk to return tomorrow in Chicago according to a source of Dave Meltzer

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 11:59 am

The Colt Cabana podcast. Wow!
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Post by Crimey on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:18 pm

Assuming he's not going to reveal anything too big, essentially going to confirm what he already know that he left because his body was battered and they weren't giving him as much of a push as he thought he deserved.

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:24 pm

Ostensibly all that had leaked out, injuries, peed with management, etc. is confirmed. Really interesting to hear all the stories and it from his own mouth.

Of course, only one half of the story, but an interesting half.
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Post by Paul Mac 6CW on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:33 pm

Anyone have a link?

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Post by Adam D on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:34 pm

I hate colt cobana

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:35 pm

I just tried the website and can't seem to link to the podcast, maybe it broke the internet. Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxHRJnZsinQ
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Post by Guest on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:38 pm

Well it was interesting that CM Punk and his lawyer/s issued WWE with a 22 page letter about royalties and I thought the WWE would play hardball with him after that and they didn't.

Also haven't the WWE made some new CM Punk Merchandise?

I don't think he will return full-time again, but clearly the WWE want to keep a door open for his possible return in the future as the one thing he opposed...Part time!

I think Heyman was on the Stone Cold podcast earlier this year and skimmed over Punk's decision to quit which is in line with what Crimey said.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 12:50 pm

I read through the notes, sounds interesting but not too insightful. He definitely had the best match at WM29 but he definitely wasnt the draw that Cena/Rock II was, even if the hardcore fans probably didnt want it again.

I'm happy he mentions how losing to The Rock wasnt much of a sacrifice at all. Equally, heel Bryan vs The Rock would have been a real non event of a story

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Post by Mr H on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 1:47 pm

M Punk has finally told his story of walking out on WWE all the way back in January the night after the Royal Rumble. Much has been written and none of it has come from the source itself. Now, in a two hour interview with Colt Cabana on the Art of Wrestling podcast, Punk has told all.

Go listen to it right here for all the quotes and juicy info from the man himself.




He makes it clear right from the outset that he didn't want to sell his story to anyone despite the fact that he knew he could have been "paid handsomely" for doing so. His reasoning?

"Money is not everything, ladies and gentlemen. That will be a big theme in my story."

Right away, Cabana remarks that Punk could have let loose with his feelings at any point and he reveals that he's learned through his years that sometimes it's better to keep the gun in the holster.




Here are some of the bigger points he hits on, and this is written in order. I'm currently listening and will update as I go along. Still, I strongly encourage you go download the episode yourself:
•He says that while people have remarked time and again that he couldn't change anything while sitting on his couch in Chicago he disagrees because it almost took him doing exactly that for meaningful change to occur. He indicates that while they may have done some things to spite him, he's really happy that certain things happened the way they did. He doesn't outright say that the Daniel Bryan run through WrestleMania 30 was because he left but he definitely hints at as much.
•"It's okay to be bitter about some things. That's how you work through stuff."
•He remarks that he's the happiest he's been in a really long time. "I'm the Frak happiest I've been in I don't know how long, at least three years, legitimately. I find these other things that have made me happy and I thought this thing that I loved, that I thought I loved, it just made me so miserable. All the time, it made me miserable. I guess the black and the white of it, when you boil it all down, the essence of it, was I was miserable, I was unhappy, Frak it! I made myself happy. I left. That's what it boils down to. It wasn't an easy decision to make but it was also a long time coming."
•He said there are many assumptions, like he was disgruntled with his creative direction, he was injured, he was mad about working with Triple H. "There's an element of truth in all those things but I can't say there was one big thing that led to my decision." He does say that the biggest was his health.
•He despises the term "pipe bomb" now because everyone refers to promos as that now.
•People were calling him about sponsor money after the pipe bomb and he pitched it to Vince McMahon, who wouldn't sign off on it. Then Brock Lesnar came in and was allowed to have sponsors on his wrestling gear.
•The story behind the pitch to WWE on walking out with Chael Sonnen at a UFC show and how it would have been good business. Vince told him someone might die in a fight and there's no way they could let him go. Vince was also apparently appalled at the idea of women fighting in the UFC.
•He says the environment is "creatively toxic" and gives examples of issues like pitching something to Vince, being told "no," and seeing John Cena doing that exact thing a week later.
•For the fans who are cool fans of his and who would like to hear an explanation, he is giving it to them right now. For those who were demanding it and calling him a quitter, those people can go to hell. For that matter, just because you bought a t-shirt doesn't entitle you to anything and you didn't make him and WWE didn't make him. "WWE was a Frak pit stop." He said he's not defined by his job, and no one should be.
•"That place should be the happiest place to work and they use that as some bizarre Frak. 'Go out there and have fun!' It's like 'Frak you, this place sucks, and on top of that, you're not Frak paying me nearly enough to do this Poopie."
•He brings up the WWE Network coming out and how he spent months asking questions and wasn't told anything.
•He rails on WWE for how they treat wrestlers as far as concussion protocol goes, revealing that he was working through concussions (he got one in the Royal Rumble too, and the testing for it was a joke) and a knee injury and messed up ribs. He was still in a mindset of doing what was best for "the boys" so he gutted out a lot of situations he definitely shouldn't have.
•When The Rock came back, he said he wanted to work babyface against a strong heel so Punk was given the choice to either turn heel or drop the WWE title to Daniel Bryan. He was told that if he turned heel and did the job, he would be owed one. So he made the sacrifice, one he admits wasn't that big of a sacrifice. He does say he tried to politic his way into the main event of WrestleMania, making Rock vs. Cena into a three-way before they booked him against Undertaker.
•Punk talks about WWE plans to get him a heater after WrestleMania and he reveals The Shield was his idea, believe it or not. They wanted a heel stable that would have included Punk, Big Show, Daniel Bryan, and Seth Rollins. So he pitched that they pick three guys from developmental to create the stable. They asked who he wanted and he said "Rollins, Dean Ambrose, and Chris Hero." Triple H vetoed Hero and they put Roman Reigns in that spot instead. The idea was to put The Shield with Punk but plans changed.
•He says the Ryback program took years off his life because of how green he is. He also calls Ryback "steroid guy" because "I call it like I see it" and reveals that Ryback kicked him in the stomach so hard during a match it broke his ribs and he never got an apology or call about it.
•"I wrestled that match with Undertaker at WrestleMania with the biggest Frak chip on my shoulder because I knew it was going to be better than Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H and The Rock vs. John Cena." They admitted that he should have went on last and he got "so Frak mad" before demanding that they should pay him like he went on last and they didn't.
•He harps on wrestlers not taking a stand against the machine, going along with stories that don't make any sense for anyone. He said the only people who say anything are Cena and maybe Randy Orton.
•His response to being told they wanted him to do the job to Brock Lesnar was to wonder who was coming to work the next day and, of course, being told that he would but Brock wouldn't and there wouldn't be a rematch at the next show. So he found a way to get excited about doing what they asked, working with Chris Jericho at Payback and Lesnar at SummerSlam, thinking it would help his case for the main event of WrestleMania the next year.
•He takes a shot at Triple H not putting over Curtis Axel the way he had originally said he was going to, and wanting to work with him to help elevate him. Instead, they booked him with Ryback again and once again, Ryback injured him with a guerrilla press spot where he missed the table. That's one of the things he's bitter about.
•Confirmed: He Poopie his pants during SmackDown late last year and tells the story of tweeting it and being told he couldn't tweet that and had to take it down. Many realized and reported on Punk unfollowing the WWE Twitter account not long after. It turns out he blocked them.
•He complained about the pay he received from his WrestleMania match with Undertaker on the basis that he had the best match on the card and he should have been paid equal to everyone else on the card. When he found out that wasn't the case, he was outraged by it because "no one else on that card could have laced my boots that night". When Cabana brings up Rock being a huge movie star and that bringing in more fans, Punk says he doesn't care and WrestleMania is what draws at this point and no one can tell him different.
•The treatment he received for a large mass on his back was laughable, with the doctor not doing much of anything about it as it grew more and more.
•He went into the Royal Rumble knowing that the plan for WrestleMania was for Batista vs. Randy Orton for the title to main event and his plan was to work so hard during the match that he would change their minds.
•There's a great story of Punk telling Rusev backstage before the Rumble match that no one gives a Poopie about him and he needs to forget that Punk is supposedly a big star and get in there and really make an impression.
•When he was told during the match that he would be eliminated by Kane, he initially responded with the idea that he would quit if Kane even touched him because his wrestler's mentality kicked in and he wanted to finish the match.
•During the drive to Cleveland for Raw the next night, he was miserable and looked over at his future wife, AJ Lee, who he says he knew he was going to marry and just hadn't said anything yet, and had an epiphany wondering what he was doing with his life.
•At Raw the night he walked out, he went in and was told he was going to have to take a drug -- he calls it a "urine test" -- test and considering the new policies they put in place so wrestlers who had failed previous tests could get strikes taken off their record, he was livid that he, of all people, would have to take a urine test. He demanded to be taken care of for his various health issues and they wanted him to sign a bunch of papers and take the urine test. That's when he decided he was done.
•He reveals he called a meeting with Vince McMahon and Triple H initially said he would leave but Punk told him to stay. "I do not love this anymore, I'm Frak sick, I'm Frak hurt, I'm Frak confused, I don't know as a business what we're doing anymore, I... every day you tell me this is a team effort but every day it's a Frak individual effort by me to find what's necessary to even Frak come here. It's not fun. I have zero Frak passion for this. I'm Frak concussed, I'm Frak hurt, and alls (sic) you care about is what segment I am and how soon I can Frak get my gear on and when I can pee in this Frak cup. And I don't want to do it anymore."
•He said he talked openly about bringing back Batista as a babyface being a horrible idea.
•When Triple H told him that Batista took the same urine test they were asking Punk to take, Punk asked "did you" and got no response. "Look, I thought when I re-signed three years ago, Vince, I told you if I couldn't be all that I could be you should Frak fire me, that if I was a fraud and I was anything less and fell short of the Frak mark... I sold more shirts than John Cena until I turned heel for you, and you said you owed me one. I worked guys that were Frak dangerous and you said you owed me one. I did all these Frak things and all I wanted was the main event of WrestleMania and it's fine if you don't think that is me and that I'm that caliber of a Frak superstar but then you need to Frak fire me because I do not want to be here and I do not want to be anything less. I will go somewhere else and I will get more Frak over because I know I can. You have shackled me, you have creatively stifled me, you have made this a very toxic environment, I no longer want to be here."
•"It boggles my mind how Daniel Bryan has not figured into your plans to be in the main event of WrestleMania because this is his Frak year. Just like two years ago it was my Frak year and I was white Frak hot just like he is now and what did you do? You fed me to this guy (pointing to Triple H)." He said Vince responded to all this by saying it was just the concussion talking and that working with Triple H was like working in the main event. Punk says he turned to Triple H and said "All due respect, I do not need to wrestle you, you need to wrestle me. I do not want to wrestle you. I seriously resent you for not putting me over three years ago when you should have. That would have been best for business but you had to Frak come in and squash it. And then I had to lose to Frak Truth and Miz. It didn't make any business sense then, it doesn't make any business sense now, and I am in a position now where I can tell you that I don't have to nor do I want to wrestle you at WrestleMania. I don't care if I was supposed to win."
•Punk reveals he was scheduled to beat Triple H at WrestleMania and he didn't care. "I didn't want to give him the Frak privilege. He says Triple H never liked him and while you hear stories on the dirt sheets about various things, whenever he was in a room with Triple H there were never good vibes. "The way he would always look sideways at me, the way he always treated me." He says he thinks Triple H believes he's a "piece of Poopie."
•Triple H told Punk that he had the best match at WrestleMania 29 against Undertaker and that it was the main event. Punk said they can push that way of looking at it to the fans, but the main event is the match that goes on last and that's all there is to it.
•He says the Batista vs. Randy Orton main event plan was from an old, out of touch mind and he was really, really stoked when they made the change and put Daniel Bryan in the match and gave him his moment.
•When Triple H again pushed that Punk was in the main event at WrestleMania 29, Punk asked if he made the same money as those who went on after him. Again, Triple H responded with silence.
•He said Vince had tears in his eyes and gave Punk a hug, one Punk reciprocated, albeit reluctantly. Then he turned to Triple H, who had extended his hand, shook it, and said "goodbye" before walking out.
•He brings up people saying "oh my god, he walked out on his contract" and clarifies that he's an independent contractor and he could have walked out whenever he wanted to. Plus, he didn't do it in the middle of a program and he didn't hold them up. There wasn't anything advertised for him coming up. He walked when there was nothing for him.
•Vince called him a week after he walked out and asked if he was ready to come back to work. He told Vince "no" at that time.
•His wife, AJ, convinced him to go to a doctor in Tampa Bay and he looked at the mass in his back. He was immediately told that he had a staph infection. He was told he needed to go to a hospital and get on an antibiotic IV drip. He wondered what they would do with less time and they cut it out, and gave him antibiotics, an experience he describes as the most painful thing he's gone through in his life. He was given three months of antibiotics and told that after working with a staph infection for three months, he could have died.
•After catching up on sleep and feeling a lot better, he got a call from Vince saying he was suspended for two months. After thinking of the time frame, he thinks that his suspension will come up just after WrestleMania and okay, whatever. But then it came up and he didn't hear anything. He heard from an investor call that Vince told investors he was "on a sabbatical". It was then that he realizes he hadn't received a royalty check.
•He tells the story of finding a royalty check from WWE and calling about what he should do about it. He also asked about the royalty check he had yet to receive and is told that said check was at the desk of a lawyer. He attempted to contact said lawyer and found no success. He says he got a bunch of butt dials from various people and how he called about the royalty checks. He was given the runaround from literally everyone.
•He put the royalty check issue on the backburner because he was getting married and the Blackhawks were in the playoffs and he had a lot going on in his personal life at the time, like planning his honeymoon. Triple H texted him on June 11 asking if he had time to talk. He was upset about this, and said he had a honeymoon he was about to go to after getting married in two days. He asked for his royalties and promised to talk after his honeymoon.
•Punk then reveals that he was fired by WWE on his wedding day and that he believes it was a calculated move. He explains that he got a FedEx and the letter was ridiculous, saying he was in breach of contract on Jan. 27 and he was forfeiting his royalties and there was a no compete clause for UFC in it.
•He said he called a lawyer before going on his honeymoon, gave him his story, and the lawyer said "great, let's get these Frak." He said he can't talk about the terms of the settlement but does reveal he "got everything I wanted, and then some."
•WWE tried to get him to sign a non-disparagement agreement and he said that he wasn't the one who was talking, they were the ones who went out in Chicago and called him a quitter on television. He said he would only consider signing the agreement if they went to Chicago and apologized while admitting they lied, that he didn't quit, and that they fired him on his wedding day.
•He says WWE was worried that he was going to go to TNA and his lawyer told them he isn't interested in that and he despises professional wrestling now. He also said there won't ever be a working relationship with WWE ever again.
•He said he's happy training and being married and writing comics and just living his life now.
•He says he failed at his goal of wrestling in the main event of WrestleMania but he's come to terms with it.

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 2:23 pm

2 out of 2 for me it looks like then.

good for him i say

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Post by liverbnz on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 3:16 pm

One side of the story I know, but what a weird place the WWE seems to be.

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Post by Hero on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 4:06 pm

1. Just because he goes under the banner of 'Straight Edge' does not warrant him from exclusion of a drug test.

2. He states immediately 'Money is not everything, ladies and gentlemen. That will be a big theme in my story.' Yet then he moans constantly about royalty checks, being on the top pay at Mania etc.

3. If he was an indepedent contractor that could have walked out whenever he wished then by walking out as he did isn't that technically quitting which he said he didn't do?

4. And if he was independent, how was he fired?

I liked Punk, fantastic mic worker etc but I imagine he would be such a massive knob to work with.

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Post by Adam D on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 4:44 pm

Hero wrote:
I liked Punk, fantastic mic worker etc but I imagine he would be such a massive knob to work with.

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 4:46 pm

There will be another edition where he answers questions from the fans. Will somebody kindly upload the link to this page once it happens? Thanks.

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 4:58 pm

Hero wrote:1. Just because he goes under the banner of 'Straight Edge' does not warrant him from exclusion of a drug test.
Agreed. It just seems that he was ready for the showdown and that was part of that process, i.e. why do you worry about this more than getting me healthy, and why hasn't HHH taken one?


2. He states immediately 'Money is not everything, ladies and gentlemen. That will be a big theme in my story.' Yet then he moans constantly about royalty checks, being on the top pay at Mania etc.
I think Jim Ross summed it up once on one of his podcasts that when someone says its not about the money, you can bet its about the money. I expect that Punk's view would be its about health and happiness. But I agree with you, and I'd also question the timing of this interview wrt to the pay-off he's finally got from WWE.


3. If he was an indepedent contractor that could have walked out whenever he wished then by walking out as he did isn't that technically quitting which he said he didn't do?

4. And if he was independent, how was he fired?
I don't want to understand employment law to answer this well, but I would expect that he was under contract to WWE (e.g. to perform at so many shows, etc. but his status was as an independent contractor.

He definitely quit. What I think the interview gives is a point of view that isn't he just flounced out because he was going to have to work a program with HHH at WM. The staph infection and working while concussed and working before he'd rehabed, etc. don't paint WWE in a good light.


I liked Punk, fantastic mic worker etc but I imagine he would be such a massive knob to work with.

The interview obviously points to a large ego. But I guess with many performers having that ego goes hand-in-hand with being good at the job. If there is fire behind the smoke of what he's saying then it also sounds like Vince, HHH and the medical staff at WWE are also pretty big knobs.
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Post by Hero on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 5:07 pm

I'm not singling him out as a knob, he's one knob amongst a whole collection of them. There's very few guys that make it to the main event level that don't gain knobdom levels along the way.

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Post by Samo on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 5:13 pm

When you're the no1 face in the company, the longest reigning WWE champion in recent history and the top merch seller and you're STILL playing second fiddle to John Cena would stick in anyones craw. I know I wouldnt be too happy about busting my balls month after month only to be placed behind John Cena vs John Lauranitis on the card. The problem is he was booked so half-heartedly you forgot almost all of his title reign.

If he was wrestling as hurt as he says he was and the WWE werent doing their bit to help him I would have walked aswell.

Its a shame he's never coming back as he was always a favourite of mine, right from his ECW debut. But Im happy he's moving on and found something he's content with. The wrestling business is built on "Never say Never" (as Stings debut proved) but in this case im fairly certain Never will be Never.

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Post by kingraf on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 5:27 pm

Glad I'm not the only one who thought he came off like a knob I especially like the part where he thought he he said he quit, but he wanted the E to admit they fired him.
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Post by Kay Fabe on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 5:35 pm

Just because he isn't motivated by money doesn't mean he doesn't want it, I supppse money dictates the level of regard the WWE hold you in, if guys are getting a bigger pay day than you despite the hierarchy telling you that you're match is the biggest nd best then I think its only natural to get annoyed.


The whole thing blew up in January but I think thats just what happens when you let things fester for so long, Punk's problem stems from not main eventing WrestleMania29 and it just got to much for him to a point he just wasnt going to give an inch to anyone, he was finished with the E by late January, I think he probably tried to fool himself into believing he would get his day and the original plans for Mania was the straw that broke the camels back.

Punk will feel the WWE messed up with him and he could have been so so huge, Vince will likel feel that he was a guy they never had massive plans for and manged to milk him for way more than they believed he was worth for 3 years


Personally, I feel its a massive loss, Punk got me excited about wrestling again in 2011, he held my attention, Bryan and The Shield have managed that since then too...for me the WWE is a weaker product without him

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Post by Crimey on Thu 27 Nov 2014, 5:49 pm

Yeah he comes across bitter but a lot less bitter than I expected, I think a lot of his problems are totally justified and the way he has been treated is poor and makes you worry about others in the company. 

I'm not surprised at all that Triple H is one of the main problems, he holds himself in too high of a regard in the business considering his actual history, which while impressive, he's never really been the star of the WWE. Wrestling Triple H at Wrestlemania isn't the equivalent of the main event but I do genuinely think he's deluded enough to think it is. 

I'm also not surprised that the doctor is awful, he's not there to help the wrestlers, he's there to convince them to continue wrestling so they can be milked dry.

I just don't think anybody can realistically deny that WWE totally dropped the ball on CM Punk, 2011 was the last time I can remember WWE really feeling huge outside of its own bubble. The Undertaker's streak got headlines but it wasn't something that was going to draw people in, just make people sad at the end of something they remember. CM Punk drew people in, he broke into the mainstream, appearing on Jimmy Kimmel etc. and then WWE dropped the ball with him completely. The Triple H match, the Kevin Nash rubbish it was dreadful. 

That's where it all went wrong and even then Punk still remained the best person in WWE by miles. I'm sure WWE felt the long title reign made up for it, but it clearly doesn't because for the majority of the reign he was overshadowed by John Cena and considering the fact that Cena wasn't even selling as much merchandise, was nowhere near as popular that decision can't be justified. 

I think WWE are always slightly bitter towards those they don't choose to push, those that gain support organically and they were clearly lying and making empty promises to Punk for a long time and I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did before he quit. It was clear from before even Wrestlemania 29 that Punk was absolutely battered and broken. His body looked awful and then after the Wrestlemania match with the Undertaker he clearly needed a long time off. They gave him a month which is totally ridiculous, it wasn't enough time to heal, it wasn't enough time to come up with a good program with him as he was pushed into a rubbish feud with Jericho and then against Heyman, which while Lesnar was good, Ryback was awful. 

He should really have been off for about 6 months, maybe even the Royal Rumble, allow him to recover from his injuries so he could actually wrestle to his high standard. Have him return and win the Rumble and main event Wrestlemania 30. The Daniel Bryan story was fantastic but WWE can't even use that as an excuse considering there was never a plan to push Bryan at the time of Punk's departure. 

Basically WWE handled somebody who should have been a huge star really, really poorly. Probably with a big dose of influence from Triple H, who comes out of this looking really bad, while Vince actually looks much better than he usually does from these reports. Then Punk was in the position where he didn't need them any more, and fair play he left, but the people that really lose out are us, the fans, because we now don't get to watch one of the most talented ever every week because of the stubbornness, unprofessionalism and down-right stupidity of WWE management.

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