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Post by seanmichaels on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 9:16 am

Thought I'd try set up another thread on this as it is fascinating stuff. Last one was taken down for a few distasteful comments including one from me so let's keep this one clean.

Latest developments:

Mike McKay Oil rig worker gives very detailed description of something burning and falling to the sea http://www.news.com.au/world/oil-rig-worker-says-he-saw-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-burst-into-flames/story-fndir2ev-1226853302184

Both Vietnamese and Malaysian earch of the area where Chinese Satellite spotted debris has found nothing.

Wall Street Journal quoting Boeing engineers stating that data downloaded automatically from the plane’s engines, suggests the plane flew for a total of five hours. Its final confirmed location was at 1.31am last Saturday, about 40 minutes after it took off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport. The unnaccounted 4 hours mean it could have made Australia, India.


Personally thought from quite early on that this plane has been hijacked and flown to a terrorist stronghold somewhere - perhaps Aceh which would fit in with Malaysian military radar reports of a UFO over the Melaka Straight. BBC guest on news this morning when asked what he thought had happened said 'If I was to take the plane I would have taken it at exactly the spot where contact was lost'.

NZ Oil rig workers testamony very detailed and convincing though.

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Post by kingraf on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:01 am

At the moment - saying general Zod had a few and mistakenly took a plane is as realistic a guess as anything.

Find it odd that no terrorist group has bragged about this... Indeed, making a plane disappear from the fage of the earth would be on par with Jesus walking on water, or Moses parting the red sea. If they can brag about kidnapping a South African in Yemen, I find it rather strange that they go quiet here.
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Post by Ent on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:21 am

Unless they are going to use it for some malicious purpose, not much point attracting attention to yourself is there.

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Post by seanmichaels on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:30 am

Ent wrote:Unless they are going to use it for some malicious purpose, not much point attracting attention to yourself is there.

Choice of plane is interesting. I believe the Boeing 777/200 is one of longest range jet liners in the world. Would make quite a potent long range missile.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:53 am

Na - as soon as its on radar it'll get blown to pieces, you can't even go 20 meters off course now before a jet is on you.

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Post by Ent on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 10:58 am

Aye but you shouldn't be able to lose a plane either.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 11:05 am

True - but easier over international waters -especially if you switch all the equipment off. Not so easy when you approach land and warships, automated response, sam sites etc etc pick you up when you are not expected. Unless they have done it so they can fly it into an aircraft carrier - it probably won't be much use.

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Post by Ent on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 1:45 pm

I doubt all borders are patrolled so well/so heavily armed. I'm sure there are some places you could do quite a bit of damage without being stopped.

Might be hard work, but then again so would making a plane disappear of the face of the earth.

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Post by seanmichaels on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 1:49 pm

Ent wrote:I doubt all borders are patrolled so well/so heavily armed. I'm sure there are some places you could do quite a bit of damage without being stopped.

Might be hard work, but then again so would making a plane disappear of the face of the earth.

Cruiseliners would be a high profile target. Also could possibly used as a means of transporting a crude nuclear or chemicasl threat

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Post by ShahenshahG on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 2:11 pm

Not all ent- but a lot of them have american, russian, chinese, etc bases on them - who are normally keen to blow thing up. Seans is a good possibility though - though again - they'd have to find someway of registering the plane so's not to get shot down.

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Mar 2014, 2:33 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Ent wrote:I doubt all borders are patrolled so well/so heavily armed. I'm sure there are some places you could do quite a bit of damage without being stopped.

Might be hard work, but then again so would making a plane disappear of the face of the earth.

Cruiseliners would be a high profile target. Also could possibly used as a means of transporting a crude nuclear or chemicasl threat
Aye, nothing gets your political agenda across better than the obliteration of a load of pensioners doing nothing more sinister than taking advantage of a decent SAGA deal.

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 8:10 am

US officials going with the 4hrs of flight theory. It has been nicked!

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:38 am

Military radar-tracking evidence suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula towards the Andaman Islands, sources familiar with the investigation told Reuters.


Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints - indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training - when it was last plotted on military radar off the country’s northwest coast.

The last plot on the military radar’s tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India’s Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.


Waypoints are geographic locations, worked out by calculating longitude and latitude, that help pilots navigate along established air corridors.

A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight, with 239 people on board, hundreds of miles off its intended course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

“What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards,” said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.


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Post by TopHat24/7 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:39 am

Tell you one thing - never going (back) to Malayasia or flying with that airline.

Whole thing has been an utter shambles, couldn't inspire less confidence.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:40 am

Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:48 am

Look on the bright side.......When the flight crew put in their overtime sheets they'll be able to retire and live in Dubai........

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:42 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:48 am

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

Why?

1. Those two people would be in a locked inaccessible cabin for the duration of the flight.
2. Presumably once landed there would be more cronies, can hardly imagine this operation would planned and executed by one man and his dog.
3. I'm guessing they wouldn't be armed with toothpicks.

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:54 am

Can't wait for the film. Fair play to the US, they were all over this from the start.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:56 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

Why?

1. Those two people would be in a locked inaccessible cabin for the duration of the flight.
2. Presumably once landed there would be more cronies, can hardly imagine this operation would planned and executed by one man and his dog.
3. I'm guessing they wouldn't be armed with toothpicks.

I thought post 9/11 the pilot cabin had to be locked........and I'd be surprised if like flight 93 most of the passengers wouldn't rather go down fighting than see a building close up..........I would..........

Think the plane has crashed.......


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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:59 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

Why?

1. Those two people would be in a locked inaccessible cabin for the duration of the flight.
2. Presumably once landed there would be more cronies, can hardly imagine this operation would planned and executed by one man and his dog.
3. I'm guessing they wouldn't be armed with toothpicks.

I thought post 9/11 the pilot cabin had to be locked........and I'd be surprised if like flight 93 most of the passengers wouldn't rather go down fighting than see a building close up..........I would..........

Think the plane has crashed.......


Pilots are in on it. Well executed, genius in fact. This will put 9/11 in the shade. It'll be loaded with a dirty bomb and hit a softish western target.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:55 am

It baffells me how we can put a feking rover on MARS and know exactly where it is every hour of the day and yet we can't find a fek off boeing 777 airliner????

Something is up no 2 ways about it. The US have GPS signals of the plane but have remained silent wasting valuable time.

Whatever happens guys, QUESTION EVERYTHING.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:57 am

seanmichaels wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

Why?

1. Those two people would be in a locked inaccessible cabin for the duration of the flight.
2. Presumably once landed there would be more cronies, can hardly imagine this operation would planned and executed by one man and his dog.
3. I'm guessing they wouldn't be armed with toothpicks.

I thought post 9/11 the pilot cabin had to be locked........and I'd be surprised if like flight 93 most of the passengers wouldn't rather go down fighting than see a building close up..........I would..........

Think the plane has crashed.......


Pilots are in on it. Well executed, genius in fact. This will put 9/11 in the shade. It'll be loaded with a dirty bomb and hit a softish western target.

A kids bouncy castle???
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Post by ShahenshahG on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:07 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Would explain why relatives were saying they could still ring mobiles the other day, just not being answered......

So 2 people are keeping 239 people hostage???

don't make sense.

Why?

1. Those two people would be in a locked inaccessible cabin for the duration of the flight.
2. Presumably once landed there would be more cronies, can hardly imagine this operation would planned and executed by one man and his dog.
3. I'm guessing they wouldn't be armed with toothpicks.

I thought post 9/11 the pilot cabin had to be locked........and I'd be surprised if like flight 93 most of the passengers wouldn't rather go down fighting than see a building close up..........I would..........

Think the plane has crashed.......


Pilots are in on it. Well executed, genius in fact. This will put 9/11 in the shade. It'll be loaded with a dirty bomb and hit a softish western target.

A kids bouncy castle???

No, Tophat

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:11 pm

Haha, actually laughed twice there, both jokes a good'un.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:16 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Haha, actually laughed twice there, both jokes a good'un.

Are you sure they weren't aftershocks Wink

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:43 pm

Stop with the bad comments towards Toppy. Its ran its course and is just childish. Im sure if any of you were to show us what you looked like we could ridicule you.
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 12:47 pm

Sad thing is most are saying it based purely on reputation, god knows what grief I'd get if everyone saw my pic too........!!

All in good humour though, I can handle it Smile thumbsup

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 1:05 pm

Go by reputation..........and then add ten stone on and you'll be near the real thing.

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 1:29 pm

Hearing reports the Pilot had a simulator installed in his house.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 2:04 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Hearing reports the Pilot had a simulator installed in his house.

Good work Columbo

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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 2:08 pm

Isn't that like a tennis player installing a court in his
yard? Hardly damning evidence...
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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 2:10 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Hearing reports the Pilot had a simulator installed in his house.

Good work Columbo

Don't worry son, I'm on it

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Post by Rowley on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 2:21 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Hearing reports the Pilot had a simulator installed in his house.

Good work Columbo

Don't worry son, I'm on it

Reassuring to know we have a borderline drunk and a lunatic conspiracy theorist all over this. Hard to imagine this won't be wrapped up by tea time.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 3:00 pm

Rowley wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Hearing reports the Pilot had a simulator installed in his house.

Good work Columbo

Don't worry son, I'm on it

Reassuring to know we have a borderline drunk and a lunatic conspiracy theorist all over this. Hard to imagine this won't be wrapped up by tea time.

Its actually gone very well so far but it releys on updated events.

What it does not need are MODS coming on here and trying to instigate chaos so you can lock the thread and therefore take away another of our hard fought freedoms a lot like the Illuminati that create world unrest in order to implement their 1 world government agenda.

You will never win jeff.

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 3:06 pm

Laugh 

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Post by Rowley on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 3:06 pm

And I would have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids.

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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 4:43 pm

Following a forced update of Android Operating System, it seems my Online movements are being monitored... On that note... I believe there are absolutely no mysterious circumstances surrounding the disappearance of this plane
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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 5:57 pm

kingraf wrote:Following a forced update of Android Operating System,  it seems my Online movements are being monitored... On that note...  I believe there are absolutely no mysterious circumstances surrounding the disappearance of this plane

You are wrong. This is going to be one of the stories of ages:

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Last Monday i said it was a hijacking. I now feel i was right. Nothing Has added up. Flight447 was clear they had issues data had been sent so they new roughly where to look.
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Day One: Plane goes missing?
Day Two: FBI Called and sent over, US then sent. Why were they sent for a plane that supposedly fell out of the sky? (Alarm Bells immediately)
Airforce claims the plane went way of coarse?
Day Three: Oil silk, China lashes out at Malaysia, saying it needs to speed up,
Day Four: what a day... Authorities identify the two men with stolen passports as young Iranians who are believed to be illegal immigrants — not terrorists. rumours of others not boarding, the list goes on.....
Day Five: Malaysia expands the search zone to include the Malacca Strait, Thats going backwards now.....
Day Six: based on data sent from its engines Wall Street Journal said US investigators suspect the plane flew on for four hours after its last known contact. Malaysia Deny this claim. US finally give some data to #MA
Day Seven: Us decide to start leading and send a ship to last know location...
There is just so much not been told here. how about this link shared earlier?
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/the-andaman-islands-are-under-serious-threat/20140223.htm
And then theres all the possible landing locations here http://www.ourairports.com/countries/IN/AN/#lat=13.346149040242985,lon=102.63716308593756,zoom=5,type=Map,country=IN,region=IN-AN


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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 6:05 pm

In other news, Joey Barton has had a haircut

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 6:35 pm

DAVE667 wrote:In other news, Joey Barton has had a haircut

visigoth. i'll hold the great dave666 to this comment

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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 7:26 pm

Well done Sean, you've managed to narrow it down to the entire Eastern hemisphere...
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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Mar 2014, 7:48 pm

definitely hijacking for me or pilot gone crazy. Those pings, well judging from what i just saw on fox news have it going sideways, then up & then across westwards towards the indian ocean. they state this path is of someone flying the plane with aviation skills. they've been looking in the wrong areas for days, even that report on sky news days ago of the pilot in the simulator had it right - saying it would be in the indian ocean with five hours fuel still on board.

if it's ditched in the indian ocean, that will take a while to find. wouldnt surprise me if the somali pirates or whoever is in the region already stripping the remains. what a mess!

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 8:34 am

Seems near certain now that it was a hijacking with the plane possibly flying for another seven hours after it "disappeared".

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Post by seanmichaels on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 9:43 am

kingraf wrote:Following a forced update of Android Operating System,  it seems my Online movements are being monitored... On that note...  I believe there are absolutely no mysterious circumstances surrounding the disappearance of this plane

 Ale 

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Post by kingraf on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 10:37 am

Official line seems to be a unending load of baloney... Pilot found with Simulator at home... gasp!! What next? Are we to investigate if any soldiers are in possession of Call of Duty (uh, not you Doody)?


Time to bring out the conspiracy theories...
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Post by Guest on Sat 15 Mar 2014, 11:50 am

Obviously no mechanical or decompression. Either pilot command or hijack. Fail to see hijack really because if there was no decompression everyone on board would be alive, why would they sit there pleasantly for five extra hours to storm the cockpit to regain control. pilots turned the comms off & all the TV's etc so nobody knew where they were on a map, as it's like 2am in the morning, you just see dark & the pilot is just saying everything is alright over the tannoy.

flight simulator at home, probably tested flying a plane with all the systems turned off & planned his flight. Where he's going over towards indian ocean is a ?. It's either ditched or flown to a secret location.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 17 Mar 2014, 4:22 pm

So he's got a flight simulator at home I don't see the problem..

I often fly planes in the bath..........and I've not lost a passenger yet !!

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Post by kingraf on Mon 17 Mar 2014, 6:38 pm

I agree Trussy, seems a rather large jump in conclusion to find a pilot guilty (of what exactly) because he owns a flight simulator. According to the Wall Street Journal, it's hardly uncommon.
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Post by dyrewolfe on Tue 18 Mar 2014, 3:28 pm

I've got a couple of combat flight simulators, but I've never had the urge to go steal a F-16 or MiG-29 and launch some missiles at one of our major cities...



...well, maybe Newcastle, but thats it... Wink
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