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Post by tigerrobins on Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:21 pm

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I really hope that Cas can keep up there early form and stay in the top 8.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 26 Oct 2016, 11:50 am

The Beast wrote:2017 fixtures are out and surprise surprise 1st game in the Championship Hull KR v Bradford, randomly generated????

I do think it is unfair that the Bulls get KR in the Summer Bash who are likely to finish top, surely it should be London, I assume the RFL do read the league tables, Bradford were 5th in 2016.

I am toying with the idea of a Bulls season ticket.  If they fail to gain promotion in 2017 ticket renewals will be 20% lower in 2018, if they are promoted renewals are free for the first season back in SL (backed by their sponsors Friends Provident), great offer.  Only downside is tickets have to be collected from the club and cannot be posted, 4 1/2 drive for me to collect.  If I was closer it would be a no-brainer.
Go for it Mick.

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 30 Oct 2016, 4:17 pm

Congratulations to Wales (who beat Italy), and Ireland (who beat Russia), on qualifying for next years world cup in Australia. And making it a full house of home nations.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 10:05 pm

Administrators dealing with Bulls are saying four are in the running to buy the club, apparently previously mentioned Mark Lawn is not at this stage one of them. Hopefully some positive news in the next 2 weeks.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 30 Nov 2016, 11:33 am

The Beast wrote:Administrators dealing with Bulls are saying four are in the running to buy the club, apparently previously mentioned Mark Lawn is not at this stage one of them.  Hopefully some positive news in the next 2 weeks.
Hopefully, but with their recent past history lets hope they can sort it our properly this time..

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Post by The Beast on Sun 12 Feb 2017, 5:04 pm

Bulls go down 14 - 22 at home to Rochdale. I listened to the game which was rumoured earlier to have been postponed due to snow. Bradford Juniors are putting in a great shift however they desperately need more size and experience in the pack/middle of the pitch and a full back who can defend/catch a high ball..........basically now otherwise relegation will be nailed on before the season is a quarter way through, already 16 points behind Rochdale who deserved their win today.

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Post by tigerrobins on Mon 20 Feb 2017, 5:42 pm

Rovers win again without playing particularly well, but to be honest at this stage íts the winning that counts. Featherstone continue there good start with a convincing win at Batley. The rest were results you'd expect.

But the big result was Bradford's win at Swinton. It dosn't change much, but they needed the win just to show they can win.

Salford looking okay in SL, the bottom 4 could be intresting, I expect Leigh & Widnes to be in it. But the other 2 places could be between quite a few.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 12:53 pm

The Beast wrote:Bulls go down 14 - 22 at home to Rochdale.  I listened to the game which was rumoured earlier to have been postponed due to snow. Bradford Juniors are putting in a great shift however they desperately need more size and experience in the pack/middle of the pitch and a full back who can defend/catch a high ball..........basically now otherwise relegation will be nailed on before the season is a quarter way through, already 16 points behind Rochdale who deserved their win today.
I think in the Bulls case its one of the situations where they will have to take a step back before they can move forward.
Providing they can keep their finances in order, which is a big ask they could be back in Super League in 5 years, but i do think that any more financial problems and they could find themselves in the lower leagues for many years.

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Post by The Beast on Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:10 am

If someone said Warrington would be winless following their excellent World Club win over Brisbane I suspect they would have received some strange looks, from me to start with. Could they be another Leeds? Surely not?

Interesting Challenge Cup result, Toronto beating London, very good win for them London are a good side.

Bulls have Featherstone tomorrow, no loan players available I can only see a loss on the way and possibly not close. Bulls have very encouraging wins over Toulouse and Batley but they are reliant on the loan players at the moment, without whom the squad is simply too young to compete.

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 19 Mar 2017, 1:37 pm

Having only seen Warrington on thursday, (where I thought they were a shambles), it wouldn't be a suprise if they were down there. They got Saints this week. Lose that and they're in real trouble. Think Widnes & Huddersfield will be down there the other 2 could be intresting.

Castleford on the other hand have been outstanding.

When you see Toronto's 17, I'm not sure it was much a suprise.

Good luck today, hopefully you'll play well at least.

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Post by The Beast on Thu 23 Mar 2017, 6:00 pm

I agree with Widnes and Huddersfield (the latter with so many ex-Bulls). Castleford, outstanding fantastic entertainment too.

Bulls did go down but credit to them, it was a great effort only losing out to two late tries.


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Post by tigerrobins on Thu 23 Mar 2017, 7:42 pm

It is being reported that Wakefield are willing to sell there SL spot for £2 million, and play In the championship. Toronto, Toulouse, Newcastle, Coventry are considering bids.

if this is true, it's a disgusting way to treat there fans. And in my opinion it gives out the wrong message about the sport. If you work your way up fine. And if this is the way SL wants to go, then I'd rather Rovers stayed in the championship.


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Post by The Beast on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 8:18 pm

I suspect we will see another change to the structure with the RFL talking about city based franchises perhaps a hint however selling your SL spot sounds like cobblers and hopefully is just wild speculation based on Wakey's ground issues.

Not sure why Michael Carter dismissed playing at Featherstone, maybe share Odsal?

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Sun 02 Apr 2017, 11:41 pm

The Beast wrote:I suspect we will see another change to the structure with the RFL talking about city based franchises perhaps a hint however selling your SL spot sounds like cobblers and hopefully is just wild speculation based on Wakey's ground issues.

Not sure why Michael Carter dismissed playing at Featherstone, maybe share Odsal?
I just wish the RFL would stick with a format for about 10 years with just tinkering every now and then.
As regards Wakefield i think a move to Odsal until their ground was sorted out properly would be a great move.

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Post by The Beast on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 6:39 pm

Dreadful performance from Bradford on Sunday losing to Oldham who deserved the two points, a shame after showing alot of improvement during the previous 3-4 weeks. Big game against Sheffield on Sunday, they simply cannot make 14 handling errors as last week and expect to win against a good side.

I see you have Swinton next up Tiger, prepare for a very very physical contest and a high penalty count.

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Post by The Beast on Tue 11 Apr 2017, 8:16 pm

Great win for the Bulls on Sunday v Sheffield, having listened and now watched the game on You Tube the score did not reflect the game itself with Sheffield having more possession however an important win with tough games coming up, Halifax (H), Featherstone (A), Toulouse (A), Sheffield (A) and London (H) followed by the Big Bash likely hiding at the hands of Hull KR.

Speaking of KR, away at Toulouse on Monday should be a serious test.

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 2:38 am

It probably would have been, if we had not decided to play alot of fringe players. Though the loss didn't really affect us much. And of course today's win at Leigh puts the defeat into the shade.

Bad Easter for you Beast, made worse by Dewsbury winning. Thought things were beginning to look up for you, still think you just need to get to 0 points for psychological purposes if nothing else.


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Post by The Beast on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 2:05 pm

No surprise for the Bulls over Easter they are very reliant on loan players particularly with the injuries they have and did not have any over Easter. Not that they would have won at Fev either way but two poor performances with numerous handling errors, dumb plays and penalties.

Toulouse away, no chance of the win there either, might be a while before the zero points party, still warm favourites to be relegated. Need signings/loans, the Chisholm contract and Toovey Visa debacles sorting very soon to have any chance.

Last weeks' narrow loss demonstrates I think that you are on the right path with a strong squad and yesterdays excellent result (very very well played) means that whoever is in the bottom four (looks like Widnes and Huddersfield are pretty likely) should be very nervous.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 2:33 pm

Just in case Huddersfield were not concerned they have just lost at home to Swinton in the CC, not their first team not by no means a youth team either, wow.

Congratulations to Swinton, not sure of their history but I suspect their biggest win for some considerable time.

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 23 Apr 2017, 4:19 pm

The Beast wrote:Just in case Huddersfield were not concerned they have just lost at home to Swinton in the CC, not their first team not by no means a youth team either, wow.  

Congratulations to Swinton, not sure of their history but I suspect their biggest win for some considerable time.

massive plaudits to Swinton, probably a bigger result than Oldham beating Rovers last year. Great boast for them.
You have to wonder whats going on at Huddersfield, they been poor on the field, and there squad looks weak. Think they definates for middle 8's, and could be the side championship sides go for.

Yeah, we are heading the right way. Some good young signings look good, and we're going forward. It's been tougher than people think but I'm really enjoying the league.

It was always goíng to be a problem for Bradford, I know why you went the loan signings route. But you run the risk of this when they're not your players.

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Post by The Beast on Sat 29 Apr 2017, 7:15 pm

Tasty CC draw for you Tiger, revenge would surely be sweet.

Bulls unsurprisingly hammered by Toulouse today, two more Under 19's making their debut 11 this season so far. Yes it was always going to be very difficult forming a new club and team a fortnight before the start of the season, - 12 and very little central funding, I have said it before and will again, should have started in Champ. 1 without the points deduction. Apparently more loan signing in the pipeline hopefully before the Sheffield game next week which is arguably the best chance to start the zero points party for the next month.

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 07 May 2017, 7:42 pm

The Beast wrote:Tasty CC draw for you Tiger, revenge would surely be sweet.

Bulls unsurprisingly hammered by Toulouse today, two more Under 19's making their debut 11 this season so far.  Yes it was always going to be very difficult forming a new club and team a fortnight before the start of the season, - 12 and very little central funding, I have said it before and will again, should have started i



n Champ. 1 without the points deduction.  Apparently more loan signing in the pipeline hopefully before the Sheffield game next week which is arguably the best chance to start the zero points party for the next month.

Don't think it's really about any sort of revenge, just seeing where we are. Be nice to get through thou, just 3 games from Wembley Very Happy

Bad defeat again today for your lot. I really don't see what your board are doing at the moment. It's almost like they've just going through the motions.

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Post by The Beast on Tue 09 May 2017, 7:10 pm

Yes (another) bad defeat and another four injured players. No-one knows what the board are doing the silence is deafening, some rumours that the re-structuring will effectively save the Bulls from relegation but I really cannot see how and I have the same view as from day one, to avoid relegation by finishing 10th is very unlikely. I can only see attendances reducing, as I have previously said who wants to pay full price to watch what is basically a U21 side getting hammered. The big bash game could be very embarrassing, cricket score.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Sat 13 May 2017, 2:41 pm

The Beast wrote:Yes (another) bad defeat and another four injured players.  No-one knows what the board are doing the silence is deafening, some rumours that the re-structuring will effectively save the Bulls from relegation but I really cannot see how and I have the same view as from day one, to avoid relegation by finishing 10th is very unlikely.  I can only see attendances reducing, as I have previously said who wants to pay full price to watch what is basically a U21 side getting hammered.  The big bash game could be very embarrassing, cricket score.
Am i right in thinking that the club is being run from New Zealand at the moment, or that's where the big decisions are being made?

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Post by The Beast on Sat 13 May 2017, 3:48 pm

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The Beast wrote:Yes (another) bad defeat and another four injured players.  No-one knows what the board are doing the silence is deafening, some rumours that the re-structuring will effectively save the Bulls from relegation but I really cannot see how and I have the same view as from day one, to avoid relegation by finishing 10th is very unlikely.  I can only see attendances reducing, as I have previously said who wants to pay full price to watch what is basically a U21 side getting hammered.  The big bash game could be very embarrassing, cricket score.
Am i right in thinking that the club is being run from New Zealand at the moment, or that's where the big decisions are being made?


You are yes, Graham Lowe & Andrew Chalmers.

Some good news this week, Leeds have generously loaned Jordan Lilley, Sam Hallas, Mikolai Oledski & Cameron Smith for 4 weeks (3 games), hopefully this will ensure competitive games v London and Hull KR.

On the downside the latest kick in the teeth are proceedings issued against the club (also the old club & RFL). 47 former players and staff claiming various breaches including unfair dismissal, breach of contract and TUPE. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/may/10/bradford-bulls

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/may/10/bradford-bulls

I am not qualified to comment legally however whilst understanding those involved pain (I have been there) it is imo unreasonable for the new owners to be dragged into the mess of the old company. If the ruling is in favour of the claimants it would a big blow or worse for a company formed 4 months ago.

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Post by The Beast on Wed 24 May 2017, 8:11 pm

Bulls v Hull KR on Sunday, here are "highlights" of a truly dismal Bradford "performance" v London last week. Something is very wrong, yes even the loanees are young and yes they were forced to play the third choice hooker (Halifihi) at Centre due to injuries but seriously this is unacceptable.



Play like this and it could be 3 figures, however it is on TV so I am assuming some will make an effort to actually tackle opposition players. Dane Chisholm will likely play so perhaps a chance to score a try of their own.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 28 May 2017, 9:14 am

Well that was a surprise, a massive improvement from the Bulls, where has that spirit been for the past few weeks??? No disgrace in losing to KR who are a proven good side and deserved their win.

Whilst conditions were poor I was still slightly surprised the KR were so rigid in their structures, not much off the cuff play, thoughts Tiger?

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Post by tigerrobins on Sun 28 May 2017, 8:21 pm

The Beast wrote:Well that was a surprise, a massive improvement from the Bulls, where has that spirit been for the past few weeks???  No disgrace in losing to KR who are a proven good side and deserved their win.

Whilst conditions were poor I was still slightly surprised the KR were so rigid in their structures, not much off the cuff play, thoughts Tiger?
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thought Bradford played very well. Your forwards ran well, Lilley & Chisholm dominated the half back duel.

As for Rovers, we have a tendency to keep it tight amongst the forwards (and constantly running back at the ruck area). Which is suprising given that our back division is better, and most sides defence out wide is weaker than running it up ťhe middle. We don't have pace in the main pivot positions (which is why I'd like Moss to start at FB), and other than the Batley game (which I was at), we don't play an attacking fluent game. But because of the pack we have (and players who aren't playing), we tend to overpower teams. Ellis and Abdull don't compliment each other, And if Abdull and Addy are on the same pitch it like having the same player in 2 positions. And I hate having a prop at LF.

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Post by The Beast on Mon 29 May 2017, 1:20 pm

Huddersfield have managed to have their second weekend game postponed today due to...........the local wendyball team having a game on the same day????? I appreciate the game will be played later during mid-week but this does seem unfair to those playing Hudds & Saints next week.

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Post by tigerrobins on Wed 31 May 2017, 2:35 am

The Beast wrote:Huddersfield have managed to have their second weekend game postponed today due to...........the local wendyball team having a game on the same day?????  I appreciate the game will be played later during mid-week but this does seem unfair to those playing Hudds & Saints next week.

it's going to be played on the challenge cup QF weekend, not in mid week.
Totally agree about the advantages they'll have for this weekend, which is wrong in my opinion.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 3:23 pm

Some communication this week from Bulls co-owner Andrew Chalmers.

Confirmed that on day one they had nothing, not even a fax or printer. Automatically signed those who had not found other clubs. Training facilities were re-negotiated with help from the local authority. A strength and conditioning coach (un-named) has been appointed in the past few days.

The offer to buy the club came with conditions including playing in Championship and having £150k of £165k central funding withheld for old co. debts.

If (when) they are relegated* they will have a mix of full and part time players in 2018 but have an expanded academy & reserve side (thinking of franchising in 2019?)

Dane Chisholm is out for 6 - 8 months needing knee reconstruction surgery from the Big bash game.

*Apparently there is a meeting of Championship clubs who COULD vote for a 14 team league in 2018. Other than a miracle this is the only way they are staying up imo.

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Post by tigerrobins on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 3:18 pm

I seem to be one of the few who like the current system, why do we keep changing.

Good to see you get to zero points beast, given who your next to games are against might be a while till you add to it. But gives you a chance in the championship 8's.

The top 4 virtually sealed, as Rovers, London Broncos and Toulouse virtually guaranteed. The last place between Featherstone and Halifax battling for the last place. With Widnes, Leigh and Catalan probably in from SL, there's some very tasty games to be played (especially Catalan/Toulouse).


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