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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 2:24 pm

Part Moyes, part the squad SAF left him. Naive in the extreme to think yesterday would've ended up any different with SAF at the helm
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Post by J.Benson II on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 2:30 pm

compelling and rich wrote:not sure about everybody getting carried away with our performance, it was a everton type performance very direct.

This.

It was a classic Everton type performance. The kind of one they would put on when the bigger boys would visit Goodison.
Keep it very tight, defensive, disciplined and walk off proudly with a draw.
Try to do damage on the counters and set pieces while possibly pressuring Bayern into making a mistake.  
United defended well no doubt. Vidic, Rio and Buttner were all solid and impressed.
Bayern struggled with Welbeck's pace on the counter in the first half but sorted themselves out in the second.
Rooney was ineffective other than his swan-like dive to get Bastian sent off. Laugh 
No surprise that United's goal came on a set piece. 2 out of the 3 goals United have scored against the top 5 have come that way. Whistle

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Post by Crimey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 2:48 pm

compelling and rich wrote:also cant remember having 25% possesion at home against any team under fergie

rather embarrassing statement of moyes managerial ability that united fans are so happy with a 1-1 at home, cant say im ready to accept were everton just yet

Not at home but you only had 32% possession in the 2011 Champions League Final. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13576522

There was no point trying to play Bayern at their own game, it would have been embarrassing. The tactics were spot on when facing a team like Bayern, don't leave any space while defending and counter with pace. When a team has so much possession they tend to slowly creep forward leaving so much space behind. It nearly worked for United, it was only a really poorly conceded goal which cost them the tie. They had more good chances and for all Bayern's possession, it was only going behind that really got them going.

It isn't just a 1-1 draw at home though, it's a 1-1 draw against the current champions of Europe who steam-roll sides. I think even if SAF was under the charge, the performance and result would have been very similar. Not sure what you expected.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 3:21 pm

Crimey wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:also cant remember having 25% possesion at home against any team under fergie

rather embarrassing statement of moyes managerial ability that united fans are so happy with a 1-1 at home, cant say im ready to accept were everton just yet

Not at home but you only had 32% possession in the 2011 Champions League Final. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13576522

There was no point trying to play Bayern at their own game, it would have been embarrassing. The tactics were spot on when facing a team like Bayern, don't leave any space while defending and counter with pace. When a team has so much possession they tend to slowly creep forward leaving so much space behind. It nearly worked for United, it was only a really poorly conceded goal which cost them the tie. They had more good chances and for all Bayern's possession, it was only going behind that really got them going.

It isn't just a 1-1 draw at home though, it's a 1-1 draw against the current champions of Europe who steam-roll sides. I think even if SAF was under the charge, the performance and result would have been very similar. Not sure what you expected.

im not saying we should have gone all out attack on them, whether its barca or bayern you have to keep it tight i agree. but when you get the ball you have to make the best of it. last night we were awful in possession and mainly just pumped it in behind for wellbeck to chase or try to hit felliani who more often than not lost it

the fact remained in previous years OT is one of the hardest places to go to in europe, with the fantastic backing of the fans adding to that. to sit back as much as we did and be happy with a 1-1 is not acceptable, we needed to take a lead over there if we have any ambition of progressing in the tie, like i said earlier im not ready to simply be happy with not getting trounced just yet, it may sound arrogant but were manchester united whether were currently in a dip or not.

this same team last season had the better of madrid by playing tight untill a harsh red card. the performance wasnt that bad last night from some of the dross that moyes has served up so far this season. but it doesnt sit well with me that we as united fans are happy simply not to be getting beat by teams at old trafford no matter who they are. bayern are not some unstoppable force like some make out, certainly not as good as the barca team that beat us in the final of 09. every time we went forward last night they looked terrified

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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:02 pm

Good starts for Real and PSG.

Interesting to see how Jose plays this. Chelsea need an away goal but can't open it up
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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:13 pm

Psg rash challenge. 1_1 pen. Away goal


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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:14 pm

Hazard equalises as Isco puts Real in control
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Post by CFCNick on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:18 pm

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Post by kingraf on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:20 pm

what the hell happened to Dortmund?
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Post by CFCNick on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:20 pm

They sold all their players to Bayern, king.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:22 pm

Injuries, lack of squad depth, loss of one of their best players, loss of their best player in the summer...
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Post by kingraf on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:24 pm

pity, they were quite entertaining when they where on.
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:30 pm

What does Ramires do except run about and foul people?
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:31 pm

looked like a foul to me that on cavani, not much between that and chelseas. got away with one there

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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:32 pm

Hazard hits the post with an inspired if slightly mishit effort
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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:34 pm

After talking up PSGs strikeforce, Zlatan and Cavani have done as much as Eto'o or Torres so far
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:36 pm

Zlatan's tearing it up I see.
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Post by CFCNick on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:38 pm

People going on about Zlatan and his incredible record of scoring and winning everywhere he goes. He's never scored against John Terry.

Last week I put on two £20 bets with mates that he won't score in the whole tie.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:40 pm

Get Lucky!!!! How fitting Laugh

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:41 pm

im still not sold on zlatan, a scorer of amazing goals but not always an amazing player. done absolutely nothing here

never really done it against the best teams, i no i dont count england as anywhere near a "best" team

league stat is a bit misleading as well, every where he's been have already been comfortably the best team in the league



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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:42 pm

will probably score a screamer now!

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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:45 pm

Psg are week today , bad performing midfielders. Chelsea should really get the win based on that first half.

A decent striker at Chelsea would really put them up there, without that cliniclness psg still in with a chance

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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:46 pm

compelling and rich wrote:im still not sold on zlatan, a scorer of amazing goals but not always an amazing player. done absolutely nothing here

never really done it against the best teams, i no i dont count england as anywhere near a "best" team

league stat is a bit misleading as well, every where he's been have already been comfortably the best team in the league



It was a friendly so even if he did it v Spain it still means zip all.

However he did turn it on v Portugal in the wc playoffs. Sadly ronaldo turned it on even more.

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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:48 pm

Zlatans record in the CL knockout rounds is appalling. He's not remotely close to Messi or Ronaldo
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:50 pm

The fact that he has as many as 41 CL goals surprised me.
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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:52 pm

I like zlatan . Because of the amazing things he does. I cam watch him all day when he is on it. Infact my fav player to watch when he is playing well

But the only player to come close to messi and ronaldo is suraez.

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:54 pm

teams will always miss the best players yet inter and barca kicked on even better when zlatan had gone. think he could be better if it werent for his attitude, he's like a better version of berbatov

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:56 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I like zlatan . Because of the amazing things he does. I cam watch him all day when he is on it. Infact my fav player to watch when he is playing well

But the only player to come close to messi and ronaldo is suraez.

id still have hazard, inestia and bale over zlatan anyday

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 8:59 pm

Schurrle - is he an out-and-out striker? I wouldn't say so. Second striker maybe but I'd have him on the wing as part of a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:00 pm

great feet by ronaldo, have to say modric on current form is right up there for the best cm's.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:02 pm

PSG 2-1 Chelsea - Sideshow Bob OG

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Post by mystiroakey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:02 pm

Psg started much better this half than they ended the first.

And got there just deserts.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:03 pm

That goes with the stupid FK he gave away

#Can'tKillBartCan'tTackle

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Post by kingraf on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:05 pm

I know he isn't playing, but the more I think about it - the more I struggle to see how Lewandowski fits into a Pep Guardiola team.
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:05 pm

luiz single handily giving psg a goal there

lavezzi has been far and away psg's most impressive player, great cross that

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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:06 pm

@paddypower: Someone must have dared Zlatan to do f*ck all tonight. It's going well, if so.

Love that account
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Post by skyeman on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

CFCNick wrote:People going on about Zlatan and his incredible record of scoring and winning everywhere he goes. He's never scored against John Terry.

Last week I put on two £20 bets with mates that he won't score in the whole tie.


Bet still on, but it was close Very Happy 

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

Why is he nicknamed "Sideshow Bob"? The last time I looked, Bob didn't have an 80s look.
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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:07 pm

Well either he has a dead leg or his hamstring has gone so Ibra is heading for the sidelines.

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Post by kingraf on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:09 pm

I see the Sideshow Bob resemblance
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Post by skyeman on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:09 pm

Who would have thought, Man Utd would have got the better result?

Never count a team out. You should all know that!!

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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:09 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Why is he nicknamed "Sideshow Bob"?  The last time I looked, Bob didn't have an 80s look.

Ill take a guess at the hair  Whistle  

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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:11 pm



CFCNick wrote:People going on about Zlatan and his incredible record of scoring and winning everywhere he goes. He's never scored against John Terry.

Last week I put on two £20 bets with mates that he won't score in the whole tie.

Well if his hamstring is gone you might aswell collect now  Laugh  7 days ain't going to help.

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Post by skyeman on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:11 pm

Fernando wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Why is he nicknamed "Sideshow Bob"?  The last time I looked, Bob didn't have an 80s look.

Ill take a guess at the hair  Whistle  


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Post by GSC on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:12 pm

Another massive contribution from Zlatan in a big game
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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:13 pm

Fernando wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Why is he nicknamed "Sideshow Bob"?  The last time I looked, Bob didn't have an 80s look.

Ill take a guess at the hair  Whistle  

Lazy from the press - just because they both have mad hair doesn't mean they have the same mad hair.

(Nice photo though, it looks reasonably similar in that one)
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Post by skyeman on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:16 pm

Chelsea seem happy to take the 2-1 back to SB.

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Post by Crimey on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:16 pm

Pretty poor performance from both sides, Chelsea will take 2-1 with the away goal I'd have thought.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:16 pm

Verratti off Shish Kebab on.

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Post by The Special Juan on Wed 02 Apr 2014, 9:22 pm

Where's Lucas?
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