2014/15 Championship Thread

[Dolphin Ziggler]

First topic message reminder :

Well, it's all decided now.

Birmingham City
Blackburn Rovers
Blackpool
Bolton Wanderers
Bournemouth
Brentford
Brighton & Hove Underdogs
Cardiff City
Charlton Athletic
Derby County
Fulham
Huddersfield Town
Ipswich Town
Leeds United
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Norwich City
Nottingham Forest
Reading
Rotherham United
Sheffield Wednesday
Watford
Wigan Athletic
Wolverhampton Wanderers

Forest have Pearce, Leeds may have investment, Olly has reasons to be cheerful and Wigan don't have European distractions.

[Fernando]

Chuba Akpom joins Forest on Loan (He's quality)

[GSC]

He better be

[Fernando]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

[Nico the gman]

What is the capacity of Bournemouth's stadium? Under 11,000 for the Middlesbrough match. If they go up will that be the smallest ever in the PL?

Under 11000 against us,and we sold our full away allocation,can't survive on 11000 capacity impossible.

[Nico the gman]

I can't why Bournemouth have signed Kenwyne Jones,Bournemouth try to play at an high tempo for the full 90,Jones is one of the laziest players I have ever seen,probably why he doesn't last long anywhere.

[Nico the gman]

I can't undeerstand why Bournemouth have signed Kenwyne Jones,Bournemouth try to play at an high tempo for the full 90,Jones is one of the laziest players I have ever seen,probably why he doesn't last long anywhere.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

When hes up for it hes unplayable. Thinking that CamJam is getting goals, and hes half the player Jones is

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

When hes up for it hes unplayable. Thinking that CamJam is getting goals, and hes half the player Jones is

Blasphemous

[NickisBHAFC]

No disrespect to forest but why the hell would Akpom join them!!!

[GSC]

Because we have no fit senior striker so hes pretty much guaranteed to play

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Indeed - we were in for him, but we have Jerome/Hooper ahead of him so he'd get like 20/25 mins here or there. Much better to go play all games

[dyrewolfe]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

[Nico the gman]

When hes up for it hes unplayable. Thinking that CamJam is getting goals, and hes half the player Jones is

You've knocked the nail on the head,only problem is Southampton,Sunderland,Stoke and Cardiff all thought the same,but if Jones ain't up for it your playing with 10 men.

[Nico the gman]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

[FootballLight]

Why have we let Danny Guthrie go out on loan to Fulham? He s a top class midfielder in this division and we really should have been keeping hold of him because he is one of the best in this division. Having said that, Nathan Ake isn't a bad replacement. Good quality, versatile and has experience at a top club. Same with Nathaniel Chalaboah. Lets just hope that Kwesi Appiah can deliver as well. Not sure of he is cut out for this level especially since being on loan at League Two Cambridge this season, but didn't do any harm in getting a bag full of goals for them. Hope he can do the same here.

[GSC]

Its astonishing that with so many top class midfielders in their squad, Reading are 19th.

[TopoftheChops]

So pleased to have jonny williams back at ipswich, the guy oozes class. Could be a major contributor to town reaching the playoffs hopefully. Zeki fryers won't play much, cover while mings is suspended

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Danny Guthrie and top class midfielder were never meant to be used in the same sentence

The sheer hilarity

[FootballLight]

Danny Guthrie and top class midfielder were never meant to be used in the same sentence

The sheer hilarity

For the division and where he is currently playing, he is a top class midfielder in the Championship. Half decent for any clubs near the bottom of the PL though.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

*half decent for league 1

[FootballLight]

He's been ever present for us this season and doesn't do a whole lot wrong. Offers us a decent run around in midfield, like an engine. At the same time, doesn't offer a great deal in terms of goals or assists.

[GSC]

Danny Guthrie wouldn't make our first XI

[GSC]

So someone who runs around a lot but does nothing with the ball is top class.

Jfc

[FootballLight]

Jordan Henderson last season?

[GSC]

Henderson running beyond the strikers from midfield was an integral part of Liverpools run towards the title, played a big part in their attacking form.

[FootballLight]

That's what Guthrie DID when we had Adkins. Can't do it as much anymore because Steve Clarke plays 4-4-2 and Guhtrie usually sits and covers a lot of ground if he can.

[GSC]

Then he DID a fairly crap job of it.

[FootballLight]

Last season under Adkins when we finished 7th. He did quite well like the rest of the team tbf. Yeah, your right there GSC.

[GSC]

And the first half of this season?

[FootballLight]

Of this season? All of the players performed poorly and Clarke has just stopped a sinking ship well and we will move forward next season. Although, I do hope Guthrie stays for the foreseeable future in the summer.

[NickisBHAFC]

Danny Guthrie is a terrible footballer.

[FootballLight]

I completely forgot that Rohan Ince was top class. Kemy Augstein isn't too bad either is he?

[GSC]

What does that have to do with Danny Guthrie?

[FootballLight]

He can hardly say any Brighton midfielders are better

[NickisBHAFC]

Rohan Ince is class. Liverpool are one of a number of clubs scouting him. Future premiership player for sure. 

I'd rather have Him, Stephens, Kayal, Holla, Texeria, Crofts all ahead of Guthrie. 

Only players I would happily swap for Guthrie would be JFC and Kemy.

[GSC]

And that's relevant to Danny Guthrie how?

Its not a particularly good or intelligent retort to attack the other person instead of actually addressing the subject matter

[FootballLight]

How can there be any argument when the other players are worse? Its called comparison just incase you forgot.

The matter is, people are questioning whether Rohan Ince will be a Premier League player for Liverpool, Danny Guthrie has been a Premier League player for Liverpool, albeit didn't get very far but I doubt Rohan Ince would do any better. Guthrie has also been at Newcastle for a decent spell and joined us when we were in the Premier League so it obviously shows he had Premier League quality.

[GSC]

Because you came up with the comparison instead of actually answering any point as a weak defensive measure.

Also Premier League Failure>Premier League potential now

[FootballLight]

Well, yes. So your saying that Johnny Howson isn't as good Rohan Ince? Is Nathan Redmond not as good as Demarai Gray either?

[GSC]

Nah, Simon Cox>Callum Wilson.

[GSC]

Really though the underlying point here is that PL clubs can make mistakes and sign bad players.

Or prospects that fail to develop and don't become good players.

Pick one, they both apply to Guthrie.

[FootballLight]

They don't both apply because Guthrie is a good midfielder and would get into most Championship sides.

[FootballLight]

I'll tell you something, that Michael Antonio's quite a good player though. What a shame we got rid of him to what was then a League One side Sheff. Wednesday. That's his true quality. Greg Halford is also quite the player. Versatile.

[dyrewolfe]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

Lol! A little harsh IMO but I see where you're coming from. Not seen a lot of Reach myself, but what I have seen...he's inconsistnet at best. Does some good work and gets crosses in, but he's just as likely to get dispossessed or give the ball away.

Maybe we should have sent him to Juninho's club and brought one of their lads over in a swap deal?

[Nico the gman]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

Lol! A little harsh IMO but I see where you're coming from. Not seen a lot of Reach myself, but what I have seen...he's inconsistnet at best. Does some good work and gets crosses in, but he's just as likely to get dispossessed or give the ball away.

Maybe we should have sent him to Juninho's club and brought one of their lads over in a swap deal?

I've seen a lot of Reach being a season card holder,gets a lot of possession and not a lot comes from him, didn't do anything against Ipswich, in a game we dominated.
I hope the kid comes good but at the moment he just isn't doing it,just a passenger we can ill afford at this stage of the season.

[FootballLight]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

Lol! A little harsh IMO but I see where you're coming from. Not seen a lot of Reach myself, but what I have seen...he's inconsistnet at best. Does some good work and gets crosses in, but he's just as likely to get dispossessed or give the ball away.

Maybe we should have sent him to Juninho's club and brought one of their lads over in a swap deal?

I've seen a lot of Reach being a season card holder,gets a lot of possession and not a lot comes from him, didn't do anything against Ipswich, in a game we dominated.
I hope the kid comes good but at the moment he just isn't doing it,just a passenger we can ill afford at this stage of the season.

The only times I have seen Reach this season has been on TV. Middlesbrough have been on more than a few occasions and he is very inconsistent. Got potential but if Middlesbrough are to go up this season they need to find a better player than him and maybe loan him back down. I thought Mustapha Carayol was quite the fast and tricky player? What happened to him?

[Nico the gman]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

Lol! A little harsh IMO but I see where you're coming from. Not seen a lot of Reach myself, but what I have seen...he's inconsistnet at best. Does some good work and gets crosses in, but he's just as likely to get dispossessed or give the ball away.

Maybe we should have sent him to Juninho's club and brought one of their lads over in a swap deal?

I've seen a lot of Reach being a season card holder,gets a lot of possession and not a lot comes from him, didn't do anything against Ipswich, in a game we dominated.
I hope the kid comes good but at the moment he just isn't doing it,just a passenger we can ill afford at this stage of the season.

The only times I have seen Reach this season has been on TV. Middlesbrough have been on more than a few occasions and he is very inconsistent. Got potential but if Middlesbrough are to go up this season they need to find a better player than him and maybe loan him back down. I thought Mustapha Carayol was quite the fast and tricky player? What happened to him?

Carayol has been out 12 months with cruciate injury,good player though bags of skill.

[FootballLight]

Ipswich sign Zeki Fryers & Jonny Williams
Middlesborough sign Tiedalli from Swansea

Well the full-back positions are always a problem for us, with players getting injured or losing form. probably why we've also got Fernando Amorebieta on loan from Fulham, with James Husband going the other way.

We also sent winger Muzzy Carayol on loan to Brighton. Best of luck to him (and them)!

Karanka can't find a place for Muzzy, but can find a place for the totally ineffective Adam Reach,who couldn't go past a statue.

Lol! A little harsh IMO but I see where you're coming from. Not seen a lot of Reach myself, but what I have seen...he's inconsistnet at best. Does some good work and gets crosses in, but he's just as likely to get dispossessed or give the ball away.

Maybe we should have sent him to Juninho's club and brought one of their lads over in a swap deal?

I've seen a lot of Reach being a season card holder,gets a lot of possession and not a lot comes from him, didn't do anything against Ipswich, in a game we dominated.
I hope the kid comes good but at the moment he just isn't doing it,just a passenger we can ill afford at this stage of the season.

The only times I have seen Reach this season has been on TV. Middlesbrough have been on more than a few occasions and he is very inconsistent. Got potential but if Middlesbrough are to go up this season they need to find a better player than him and maybe loan him back down. I thought Mustapha Carayol was quite the fast and tricky player? What happened to him?

Carayol has been out 12 months with cruciate injury,good player though bags of skill.

Quite a good player. Hope his career isn't hit with injury.

[GSC]

Apparently you can be in 170m of debt and be in good shape with FFP.

[Derbymanc]

Who's been caught out now GSC? (FFP is a proper waste of time................)

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