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Post by skyeman on Thu 29 May 2014, 4:57 pm

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Derbymanc wrote:I'm baffled by all this too Skye, can anyone tell me what the actual problem is with CONTROLLED immigration ???


Aye Dm, you mentioned a while back about MP's not wanting to live in their consticuency.

Margaret Hodge of Barking. Where does she live Very Happy 

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 5:59 pm

GSC wrote:Its the same place as me, come say hi.

 picard 

I feel sorry for your gf and your friends whose safety you put at risk by making it possible for people you have political debates with and viewers who you have no contact with to be able to find out where they live/work.

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:02 pm

Considering 3 of my 5 followers are on this site I'm now worried. We might have a v2 serial killer on our hands
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:03 pm

C_S - Why would GSC's safety be endangered? Is there a motive?


Last edited by Duty281 on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:11 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : There, not their, or they're, to be quite honest.)

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:08 pm

Anyway, moving on
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:12 pm

Should be safer now
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:37 pm

GSC wrote:Should be safer now

You should have chosen Rita over Jessica  Laugh Laugh  

How's Tommy doing?

Has sophie found a job yet?

Did you grow up jealous of Tom because he is a handsome man....

I will tell you something I am not missing Jessica's birthday this september like I did last year.

The question is will Jessica leave you for me and the answer is you have nothing to woorry about because I am not interested in men  Laugh Laugh 

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:55 pm

I have a stalker it seems Laugh
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:58 pm

He could guide you on the journey of life, GSC, being the little voice in your ear.

Your very own guardian angel.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 6:58 pm

GSC wrote:I have a stalker it seems Laugh

Well according to you no personal informtion can be found out by having your twitter ccount linked to this website. I have according to your theory just guessed all of those names....

I can also guess where your gf works as well......

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:00 pm

Duty281 wrote:C_S - Why would GSC's safety be endangered? Is there a motive?

Is it true what Truss said that you meet all your bfs at the library?

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:01 pm

You found information that is freely available .

Though your interest in me is turning from flattering to creepy
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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:02 pm

GSC wrote:You found information that is freely available .

Though your interest in me is turning from flattering to creepy

I am just glad your randomly popped up on this thread because you proved my point perfectly about what personal information you should share on this website. Thank you

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Post by Duty281 on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:04 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:C_S - Why would GSC's safety be endangered? Is there a motive?

Is it true what Truss said that you meet all your bfs at the library?

No that's a rather long-running joke now! laughing

It's Grindr usually, or pot luck.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:07 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Duty281 wrote:C_S - Why would GSC's safety be endangered? Is there a motive?

Is it true what Truss said that you meet all your bfs at the library?

No that's a rather long-running joke now! laughing

It's Grindr usually, or pot luck.

Miley Cyrus was at Heaven (gay club) in london a few weeks ago.

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Post by Derbymanc on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:19 pm

I think GSC may need a bodyguard,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxzdo8FfrW0

I see this advert now and imagine that's CS behind you

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Post by skyeman on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:22 pm

Derbymanc wrote:I think GSC may need a bodyguard,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxzdo8FfrW0

I see this advert now and imagine that's CS behind you


PMSL

Looks like a bum hole chasing him.

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Post by Derbymanc on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:23 pm

Works on 2 levels then bwahahahA

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Post by skyeman on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:25 pm

Laugh Laugh Laugh 

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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:27 pm

Oh god lol
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Post by kingraf on Fri 30 May 2014, 7:54 pm

Pretty much surpassed all my hopes and dreams, these last four pages. Poor Rodders is gonna be hella upset on Monday.
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Post by GSC on Fri 30 May 2014, 8:02 pm

Speak for yourself. I came in to kill the last half hour of the wworking week and ended with a stalker
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Post by kingraf on Fri 30 May 2014, 8:09 pm

To be fair to Champers, he has a point. There are some crazies online. I'm currently trying to find the name of a lass I met this morning when I went into uni. She doesn't have the same course as me (I'm studying part time), and I couldn't remember her name, only her surname, so I hacked into my mate's student profile, as I know his password, and he has the same course as her. From there I had to find a person who did the assignment who matches her name and initials, and then invited found the two possible candidates on Facebook, where I got their cell numbers. All rather taxing, and I still haven't figured out how I'm going to accidentally run into her. Safe to say when I tell our kids the story of how I met their mother, the story will only pick up after the serendipitous second sighting.
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Post by skyeman on Fri 30 May 2014, 11:22 pm

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Post by Derbymanc on Sat 31 May 2014, 8:59 am

Cheers for the laughs last night all and hope GSC is okay.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-05-29/ukip-poll-itv-news-44-could-not-vote-for-nigel-farages-party/

Can anyone tell me if this is good or not?

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 31 May 2014, 9:34 am

C_S did get banned after all; what a crying shame!

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 31 May 2014, 9:37 am

Derbymanc wrote:Cheers for the laughs last night all and hope GSC is okay.

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-05-29/ukip-poll-itv-news-44-could-not-vote-for-nigel-farages-party/

Can anyone tell me if this is good or not?

If over seven out of every ten plan to vote UKIP again next year, then it's a good thing, as it underlines that in the eyes of most people, a vote for UKIP is not a mere protest vote.

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Post by Derbymanc on Sat 31 May 2014, 10:15 am

I suppose actively stalking someone is taking things a bit far even for his standards.

I think it's a good thing for UKIP too (although they need to get rid of Neil Hamilton,) and shows that they're talking about the main issue that people are worried about. I've gone over a few articles lately and what people don't realise is that most people want tighter controlled immigration (pull your finger out rowles  Wink ) not No immigration.

I'm interested to see Rodders, Truss's and 4L's take on this too.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 31 May 2014, 11:00 am

Well given how densely populated the United Kingdom is, I believe our population will overtake the more spacious country of France in good time, plus with regards to what the situation is in North Africa, where migrants, with a culture alien and incompatible to our own British way of life, are flooding into Italy, mostly, and making the long road to Calais where they try to gain safe passage to Britain.

We cannot put a handle on that, nor it seems can France, because of the ludricous idea of having open borders between EU member states.

Britain's population grows, our services, such as housing, schools and healthcare, become tightly squeezed, and our way of life is further eroded, after years and decades of no real immigration policy. This will continue until several British towns and cities are not really "British"; think I'm scaremongering? Please take a trip to Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester, Luton or London, particularly the ghetto areas.

People in power are scared to speak out against the wave of vast, uncontrolled immigration, because you'll be branded a "racist" a "xenophobe" or maybe just a good old "Islamophobe", by the eternally-offended, politically correct, left-wing people that infest this island.

Britain has needed to get a real handle on immigration since New Labour left office; she hasn't, under the Coalition, and now she is at breaking point. I can't fathom how great the disaster will be in 25 years time or so, when the population is nosing towards 70 million, and civil divides are greater than they are now because of the clash of cultures.

Controlled immigration, integration of immigrants to our culture and repatriation of illegal immigrants is the only way if Britain is to survive.

Yep, call me a racist, I'm not going to care.

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Post by GSC on Sat 31 May 2014, 11:04 am

Can't say he didn't have it coming after all.

Was a tiny bit sad the lengths people will go to to try and get a rise out of people
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Post by Derbymanc on Sat 31 May 2014, 1:30 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/31/tony-blair-europe-ukip_n_5422562.html

Could be another feather in UKIPS cap

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Post by skyeman on Sat 31 May 2014, 1:33 pm

Absolutely. I think he will be quietly turned down Wink

Not a good advert for the UK, let alone the EU.

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Post by skyeman on Sat 31 May 2014, 1:41 pm

I like this under the report.

"This shyster did more damage to the uk than the whole of the Luftwaffe ever did !"


Ed must be thinking {frig off Blair} are you trying to make Farage PM.

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Post by skyeman on Sat 31 May 2014, 5:15 pm

Still yet to see a single person on here say why they are against controlled immigration!

8/10 in England 7/10 in Scotland in recent polls support controlled immigration. Have not seen either for Wales/NI. But i imagine that they would be similar Wink 

So the high majority agree with UKIP?

Personally, i just want out of the EU, and thus that would be just one of the benefits.

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Post by Derbymanc on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 9:40 am

Because they don't like to acknowledge that that's what our good selves want. They just like to shout that we oppose ALL immigration which would be daft.

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 12:56 pm

A Labour u-turn on uncontrolled immigration Very Happy  Have they not learned?

Labour in-fighting, squabbling and general lack of policy direction. What a terrible pity. Anyone would think they had a leader who lacked credibility or any level of leadership ability.

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 2:29 pm



Labour chasing their tails here, no rhyme nor reason, nor logic to their statements.

Shall we call them a bigoted, racist, xenophobic, neo fascist party? After all that is what they (and the BBC) called UKIP every night for three weeks before the Local/ Euro elections?

Labour/Ed Milliband shouldn't be toughening their immigration policy only because of UKIP or perceived public opinion. They should be doing it because they believe/know themselves that it's better for the UK. They should be able to see the damaging results of uncontrolled immigration and understand the common sense of controlled immigration. Likewise with the excessive power of the EU. By changing policy only as a reaction, it appears they still don't get it.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 3:10 pm

The signs are looking good for UKIP: the overwhelming majority of those who voted UKIP on May 22 will do so again in 2015, the polls for Newark are fairly close, and Farage is working out the game-plan for the General Election.

A grammar school in every town, increasing the tax-free earnings threshold by nearly £3,000, scrapping the top rate of tax, and targeting up to 36 seats. More on the party's manifesto (the so-called one policy party Laugh ) will be revealed in Doncaster in September.

Love you Nigel!

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 3:19 pm

It is great watching the Labour Party  go into meltdown about immigration, Labour have to choose between their pro immigration city dwelling immigrant voters & their traditional Northern working class voters who want immigration reduced. They can't unite both & without both they won't win in 2015, so it's dancing on the head of a pin time for Miliband.

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 3:22 pm

And great to see UKIP setting the agenda, not so meaningless now!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 3:53 pm

skyeman wrote:It is great watching the Labour Party  go into meltdown about immigration, Labour have to choose between their pro immigration  city dwelling immigrant voters & their traditional Northern working class voters who want immigration reduced. They can't unite both & without both they won't win in 2015, so it's dancing on the head of a pin time for Miliband.

Meltdown ????

People vote on these things in order.............

Economy
Health
Education............You'll find immigration comes way down the list at GE's...

Next time you have an operation and some top Indian Surgeon is performing it.......Just remember Immigration isn't all bad !!

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 4:01 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
skyeman wrote:It is great watching the Labour Party  go into meltdown about immigration, Labour have to choose between their pro immigration  city dwelling immigrant voters & their traditional Northern working class voters who want immigration reduced. They can't unite both & without both they won't win in 2015, so it's dancing on the head of a pin time for Miliband.

Meltdown ????

People vote on these things in order.............

Economy
Health
Education............You'll find immigration comes way down the list at GE's...

Next time you have an operation and some top Indian Surgeon is performing it.......Just remember Immigration isn't all bad !!



Of course it is not. Who wants NO immigration?



Miliband and Labour know that short of pulling out of the EU there isn't a damn thing they can do about immigration; Cameron knows that he can't offer anything specific in the way of policies to address the issue, because, the moment he does it will become apparent that no such policy is achievable - because of the EU. And neither he nor Labour want out of the EU.

So in essence, they both know there is a problem that voters are furious about, and they both know that they can't fix it short of leaving the EU.

So if you're a voter whose top issue is immigration, and you look at these two sets of bumholes flailing about trying to craft a response to something they 1) can't, and 2) don't want to respond to . . .

Who does that leave you with?

First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win...
- Ghandi

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 4:11 pm

skyeman wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
skyeman wrote:It is great watching the Labour Party  go into meltdown about immigration, Labour have to choose between their pro immigration  city dwelling immigrant voters & their traditional Northern working class voters who want immigration reduced. They can't unite both & without both they won't win in 2015, so it's dancing on the head of a pin time for Miliband.

Meltdown ????

People vote on these things in order.............

Economy
Health
Education............You'll find immigration comes way down the list at GE's...

Next time you have an operation and some top Indian Surgeon is performing it.......Just remember Immigration isn't all bad !!





Of course it is not. Who wants NO immigration?



Miliband and Labour know that short of pulling out of the EU there isn't a damn thing they can do about immigration; Cameron knows that he can't offer anything specific in the way of policies to address the issue, because, the moment he does it will become apparent that no such policy is achievable - because of the EU. And neither he nor Labour want out of the EU.

So in essence, they both know there is a problem that voters are furious about, and they both know that they can't fix it short of leaving the EU.

So if you're a voter whose top issue is immigration, and you look at these two sets of bumholes flailing about trying to craft a response to something they 1) can't, and 2) don't want to respond to . . .

Who does that leave you with?

First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win...
- Ghandi

Immigration may be a big subject for you..................But for the majority of people they want to know If they will have Job security....What their standard of living will be.......The standard of their kids education..........Access to healthcare..........

You think everybody who voted for UKIP ...voted because of Europe and Immigration.................You're deluded..

I suppose you think everybody used to vote for the Lib Dems because they loved the policies .........Nope they did because they were the party of protest....

and they aren't anymore because they are in Government........So who is the protest party now...Yep UKIP............

UKIP will get wiped next year when it MATTERS............

BIG ELECTIONS ARE WON AT HOME !!

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 4:14 pm

[quote="TRUSSMAN66"]

People vote on these things in order.............

Economy
Health
Education........

And the EU are not having an effect on these.?

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Post by skyeman on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 5:44 pm

I think a few will be getting a big dose of reality after the GE.

UKIP gaining LibLabCon voters is  only likely to increase.

People are concerned about:

their housing
their children's education
their imploding health services
their diminishing employment opportunities


All being damaged by EU polices.


GIVE THE REFERENDUM.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket on Sun 01 Jun 2014, 7:58 pm

Much will depend at the general election on how far by then UKIP have actually developed an effective infrastructure, party discipline, a range of credible spokespeople and coherent policies.  They have a fair way to go on that front...

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Post by skyeman on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 12:43 am

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Much will depend at the general election on how far by then UKIP have actually developed an effective infrastructure, party discipline, a range of credible spokespeople and coherent policies.  They have a fair way to go on that front...


Hi Ch. These things will be forthcoming over the months. Farage and his advisors have already and will continue to bring in top people who are both political and MSM savvy. On the policy front, the new manifesto is being drawn up and will be launched in  Ed Miliband's seat of Doncaster in September Wink  UKIP also react much quicker to disipline issues than LibLabCon. They have of course made mistakes but will now become more professional as time goes on.

Much will also depend on how LibLabCon react over the months and whether or not they start to genuinely  listen to their voters concerns. The only way that this can really happen is by being given a referendum. That is what the majority want.

Token gestures/words will lose LibLabCon even more votes as will two week u-turns that we have just seen from Labour!

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 9:27 am

Rowley wrote:
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GSC wrote:Makes me look rugged and manly don't ya know.

Also is the reason you are probably a virgin

Wow, you're a virgin and I am fat. I am going to leave this one with you guys. I can't handle wit like this, is like trying to argue about physics with Stephen Hawkins

laughing

creases me up that CS insults like a schoolkid as well as debating like one Laugh

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Post by GSC on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 9:30 am

Well, you did miss C_S implying my girlfriend was male and that I am of a homosexual persuasion.

Also there are homophobic nutjobs lurking this site working on tracking down Duty.
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 9:32 am

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
GSC wrote:Its the same place as me, come say hi.

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I feel sorry for your gf and your friends whose safety you put at risk by making it possible for people you have political debates with and viewers who you have no contact with to be able to find out where they live/work.

Or maybe they're not as worried about safety as you because they know they're not half as much of a d!ck as you so it's pretty unlikely anyone's going to 'come after them'...

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon 02 Jun 2014, 9:33 am

GSC wrote:I have a stalker it seems Laugh

Welcome to the club. Just glad he's moved on to someone else.....

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