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Tour t' France

Post by Lowlandbrit on Thu 26 Jun 2014, 1:09 pm

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It's nearly time for the biggest race of the year, the event that has everyone so excited that the England football team made sure they'd be back in time to see the start in Leeds. Froome and Contador are the big favourites for yellow, with Nibali as biggest outsider. Meanwhile Sagan is the favourite for green, just ahead of Cavendish and Kittel.

Teams (riders left):
Sky (7):
1. FROOME Christopher (GBR)
2. EISEL Bernhard (AUT)
3. KIRYIENKA Vasil (BLR)
4. LOPEZ David (ESP)
5. NIEVE Mikel (ESP)
6. PATE Danny (USA)
7. PORTE Richie (AUS)
8. THOMAS Geraint (GBR)
9. ZANDIO Xabier (ESP)
Movistar (8):
11. VALVERDE Alejandro (ESP)
12. ERVITI Imanol (ESP)
13. GADRET John (FRA)
14. HERRADA Jesús (ESP)
15. INTXAUSTI Beñat (ESP)
16. IZAGIRRE Ion (ESP)
17. PLAZA Rubén (ESP)
18. ROJAS José Joaquín (ESP)
19. VISCONTI Giovanni (ITA)
Katusha (6):
21. RODRíGUEZ Joaquim (ESP)
22. ISAYCHEV Vladimir (RUS)
23. KRISTOFF Alexander (NOR)
24. PAOLINI Luca (ITA)
25. PORSEV Alexander (RUS)
26. SILIN Egor (RUS)
27. SMUKULIS Gatis (LAT)
28. ŠPILAK Simon (SLO)
29. TROFIMOV Yuri (RUS)
Tinkoff-Saxo (7):
31. CONTADOR Alberto (ESP)
32. BENNATI Daniele (ITA)
33. HERNáNDEZ Jesús (ESP)
34. MAJKA Rafal (POL)
35. MøRKøV Michael (DEN)
36. PAULINHO Sérgio (POR)
37. ROCHE Nicolas (IRL)
38. ROGERS Michael (AUS)
39. TOSATTO Matteo (ITA)
Astana (9):
41. NIBALI Vincenzo (ITA)
42. FUGLSANG Jakob (DEN)
43. GRIVKO Andriy (UKR)
44. GRUZDEV Dmitriy (KAZ)
45. IGLINSKIY Maxim (KAZ)
46. KANGERT Tanel (EST)
47. SCARPONI Michele (ITA)
48. VANOTTI Alessandro (ITA)
49. WESTRA Lieuwe (NED)
Cannondale (8):
51. SAGAN Peter (SVK)
52. BODNAR Maciej (POL)
53. DE MARCHI Alessandro (ITA
54. KING Edward (USA)
55. KOREN Kristijan (SLO))
56. MARCATO Marco (ITA)
57. MARINO Jean-Marc (FRA)
58. SABATINI Fabio (ITA)
59. VIVIANI Elia (ITA)
Belkin (8):
61. MOLLEMA Bauke (NED)
62. BOOM Lars (NED)
63. CLEMENT Stef (NED)
64. KRUIJSWIJK Steven (NED)
65. LEEZER Tom (NED)
66. TANKINK Bram (NED)
67. TEN DAM Laurens (NED)
68. VANMARCKE Sep (BEL)
69. WYNANTS Maarten (BEL)
Omega Pharma - Quick-Step (8):
71. CAVENDISH Mark (GBR)
72. BAKELANTS Jan (BEL)
73. GOłAś Michał (POL)
74. KWIATKOWSKI Michal (POL)
75. MARTIN Tony (GER)
76. PETACCHI Alessandro (ITA)
77. RENSHAW Mark (AUS)
78. TERPSTRA Niki (NED)
79. TRENTIN Matteo (ITA)
AG2R-La Mondiale (9):
81. PERAUD Jean-Christophe (FRA)
82. BARDET Romain (FRA)
83. CHEREL Mikael (FRA)
84. DUMOULIN Samuel (FRA)
85. GASTAUER Ben (LUX)
86. KADRI Blel (FRA)
87. MINARD Sébastien (FRA)
88. MONTAGUTI Matteo (ITA)
89. RIBLON Christophe (FRA)
Garmin Sharp (7):
91. TALANSKY Andrew (USA)
92. ACEVEDO Janier Alexis (COL)
93. BAUER Jack (NZL)
94. HOWES Alex (USA)
95. KING Ben (USA)
96. LANGEVELD Sebastian (NED)
97. NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas (LTU)
98. SLAGTER Tom-Jelte (NED)
99. VANSUMMEREN Johan (BEL)
Giant Shimano (8):
101. KITTEL Marcel (GER)
102. CURVERS Roy (NED)
103. DE KORT Koen (NED)
104. DEGENKOLB John (GER)
105. DEVENYNS Dries (BEL)
106. DUMOULIN Tom (NED)
107. JI Cheng (CHN)
108. TIMMER Albert (NED)
109. VEELERS Tom (NED)
Lampre-Merida (5):
111. COSTA Rui (POR)
112. CIMOLAI Davide (ITA)
113. DURASEK Kristijan (CRO)
114. HORNER Chris (USA)
115. MODOLO Sacha (ITA)
116. OLIVEIRA Nelson (POR)
117. RICHEZE Ariel Maximiliano (ARG)
118. SERPA Jose Rodolfo (COL)
119. VALLS Rafael (ESP)
FDJ.fr (8):
121. DéMARE Arnaud (FRA)
122. BONNET William (FRA)
123. DELAGE Mickaël (FRA)
124. JEANNESSON Arnold (FRA)
125. LADAGNOUS Matthieu (FRA)
126. PINEAU Cédric (FRA)
127. PINOT Thibaut (FRA)
128. ROY Jérémy (FRA
129. VICHOT Arthur (FRA))
Lotto Belisol (7):
131. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen (BEL)
132. BAK Lars Ytting (DEN)
133. DE CLERCQ Bart (BEL)
134. GALLOPIN Tony (FRA)
135. GREIPEL André (GER)
136. HANSEN Adam (AUS)
137. HENDERSON Gregory (NZL)
138. ROELANDTS Jurgen (BEL)
139. SIEBERG Marcel (GER)
BMC (8):
141. VAN GARDEREN Tejay (USA)
142. ATAPUMA John Darwin (COL)
143. BURGHARDT Marcus (GER)
144. MOINARD Amaël (FRA)
145. OSS Daniel (ITA)
146. SCHAR Michael (SUI)
147. STETINA Peter (USA)
148. VAN AVERMAET Greg (BEL)
149. VELITS Peter (SVK)
Europcar (9):
151. ROLLAND Pierre (FRA)
152. ARASHIRO Yukiya (JPN)
153. COQUARD Bryan (FRA)
154. GAUTIER Cyril (FRA)
155. GENE Yohann (FRA)
156. PICHOT Alexandre (FRA)
157. QUEMENEUR Perrig (FRA)
158. RéZA Kévin (FRA)
159. VOECKLER Thomas (FRA)
Trek (6):
161. SCHLECK Fränk (LUX)
162. BUSCHE Matthew (USA)
163. CANCELLARA Fabian (SUI)
164. IRIZAR Markel (ESP)
165. RAST Gregory (SUI)
166. SCHLECK Andy (LUX)
167. VAN POPPEL Danny (NED)
168. VOIGT Jens (GER)
169. ZUBELDIA Haimar (ESP)
Cofidis (7):
171. NAVARRO Daniel (ESP)
172. EDET Nicolas (FRA)
173. GARCíA Egoitz (ESP)
174. LEMOINE Cyril (FRA)
175. MATE Luis Angel (ESP)
176. MOLARD Rudy (FRA)
177. PETIT Adrien (FRA)
178. SIMON Julien (FRA)
179. TAARAMäE Rein (EST)
ORICA-GreenEDGE (6):
181. GERRANS Simon (AUS)
182. ALBASINI Michael (SUI)
183. CLARKE Simon (AUS)
184. DURBRIDGE Luke (AUS)
185. HAYMAN Mathew (AUS)
186. KEUKELEIRE Jens (BEL)
187. MEIER Christian (CAN)
188. TUFT Svein (CAN)
189. YATES Simon (GBR)
IAM (6):
191. FRANK Mathias (SUI)
192. CHAVANEL Sylvain (FRA)
193. ELMIGER Martin (SUI)
194. HAUSSLER Heinrich (AUS)
195. HOLLENSTEIN Reto (SUI)
196. KLUGE Roger (GER)
197. PINEAU Jérome (FRA)
198. REICHENBACH Sebastien (SUI)
199. WYSS Marcel (SUI)
NetApp-Endura (8):
201. KöNIG Leopold (CZE)
202. BáRTA Jan (CZE)
203. DE LA CRUZ David (ESP)
204. DEMPSTER Zakkari (AUS)
205. HUZARSKI Bartosz (POL)
206. MACHADO Tiago (POR)
207. MENDES José (POR)
208. SCHILLINGER Andreas (GER)
209. VOSS Paul (GER)
Bretagne-Séché (9):
211. FEILLU Brice (FRA)
212. BIDEAU Jean Marc (FRA)
213. DELAPLACE Anthony (FRA)
214. FEILLU Romain (FRA)
215. FONSECA Armindo (FRA)
216. GERARD Arnaud (FRA)
217. GUILLOU Florian (FRA)
218. JARRIER Benoit (FRA)
219. VACHON Florian (FRA)


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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:04 pm

I don't think Sky had a team this year to really do what they did with Wiggins in 2012, a lot of alright guys who would've been dropped early on mountains I reckon.

But I agree better racing and although Nibali won at a canter, the podium battle was fantastic

Both grand tours this year have been very good
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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:20 pm

delighted to see Valverde dropped off the podium, and two Frenchies on it. Very Happy

As Mike said, a reminder that the final ITT of GTs doesn't always throw up the expected result.

As for the yellow jersey, 8 minutes is a huge gap, but as people say there's been some good racing for the other spots. It's nice to have a few young guys coming through, and as Olly points out, most of them (pretty much all) are attacking riders, which usually makes for a better spectacle.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Dave. on Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:38 pm

One of the things for me is, Saxo still had riders like Roche, Rogers and Majka who can do stuff. Sky couldn't think of a Plan B on the fly. They seem to treat cycling as a computer simulation, which is alright when things go well, but any deviation, they can't adapt to it.

There's a coldness to Team Sky and British Cycling I feel. Successful,yes - but too regimented. There is little room for a bit of heart and sentiment.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 26 Jul 2014, 10:56 pm

Not really sure they had the riders to do what Saxo did, Porte has been off form all year and Thomas is good but not particularly great in anything to win a stage. Froome I feel is actually pretty anti what Sky are, he likes to blow things up.

Shame for Cavendish that he crashed because the sprinters weren't particularly great in this race I don't feel. Kittel tired badly, Sagan can't catch a break and Cav would beat the likes of Kristoff/Greipel if on form
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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Mike Selig on Sun 27 Jul 2014, 12:12 am

I've enjoyed the Tour overall. I think it's been a good route as well. I really liked the short sharp Pyrenees stage - meant people basically had a crack all the way through.

Sky to be fair did have a crack at a few breakaways through Thomas, Nieve and Kyriemenka (apologies for the spelling). I agree with Olly though, basically there was no plan B and Richie Porte being so out of form, they did try but they just didn't have the personnel. I get the point about them being machine-like though.

I think maybe what made the racing more exciting was there was no dominant team on the front of the peloton. Nobody could really control the pace up the final climb like in years gone by, the leaders were often quickly isolated and had to take things up themselves. It's been interesting to see how they react to that.

Roll on tomorrow into the champs.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 27 Jul 2014, 8:44 am

Really fancy Kristoff to take the win today again, maybe Renshaw as an outsider each way
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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Lowlandbrit on Sun 27 Jul 2014, 9:02 am

Dave. wrote:There's a coldness to Team Sky and British Cycling I feel. Successful,yes - but too regimented.
It's a fair point, but at the same time the British element was pretty limited this year. Even Thomas was riding with Froome long before they joined Sky, and then you have Wiggins and Kennaugh left at home. Makes you wonder if there's some sort of Froome/GB split in that team.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun 27 Jul 2014, 11:13 pm

This has been the worst tour in years and has been completely forgettable, Nibali is probably because lets be honest he doesn't tend to get the best of Contador or Froome when they're concentrating on a certain race.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Lowlandbrit on Mon 28 Jul 2014, 11:16 am

198 riders sign in, 198 riders
they start in a town, they pedal around...


164 riders managed to finish this year's race, down from 169 last year. Astana, AG2R, Europcar and Bretagne-Séché got all their riders to Paris; Lampre were hardest hit, finishing with just 5 riders.
Yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali finished with a time of 89 hours, 59 minutes and 6 seconds. Ji Cheng finished last, 6 hours, 2 minutes and 24 seconds behind Nibali, the biggest gap since 1954. Geraint Thomas came 22nd at 59m14s.
Green jersey Peter Sagan ended up with 431 points, with Alexander Kristoff coming second on 282 points and Bryan Coquard in third on 271. Geraint Thomas was 53rd with 34 points.
Polka dot jersey Rafal Majka finished with 181 points, with Nibali second on 168 and Joaquim Rodriguez third on 112. Geraint Thomas was 34th out of 67 with 10 points.
White jersey Thibaut Pinot had a final time of 90 hours, 7 minutes and 21 seconds, with a 3m11s advantage over Romain Bardet, and more than an hour on everyone else. Davide Cimolai finished bottom of the 24 man category, 5h4m43s behind the winner.
Alessandro De Marchi was the most combative rider.
Best team was AG2R at 270h27m2s, Giant-Shimano came in last, 7h44m45s behind. Sky finished 7th, 1h40m36s behind the winner. Astana won the most prize money (€539.330), Lampre won the least (€9.830). Sky won €24.240 over the past three weeks, putting them in 18th place.

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Re: Tour t' France

Post by Azabache on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:51 pm

Nice little joke doing the rounds when I was at the Etape (pros' Stage 18) last week:

"A pro cyclist is someone who pretends to be well when he's really seriously injured;                              a pro footballer is someone who pretends to be injured when there's nothing wrong with him".

Thinking of Bertie and others...!

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