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Post by Driver on Fri 18 Jul 2014, 1:58 pm

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 11:33 am

Cracking game so far!

Naldo and Folau have no kicking game to speak of but so hard to defend when running. Tah's targetting Naldo really well.

Carter injury could be a bit tasty, didn't know he was only kicking at 60% this season, thats not good enough for Int.

Palu playing really well, Horne isn't a great 13 but he's a great winger.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 11:47 am

Looks like Cruden and Barrett for NZ. Hope Barrett gets his chance
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 12:03 pm

Looked a bit tasty, should have went off earlier really.

Awful attempt at a tackle from Bird, AAC straight through him. Could go either way this one.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 12:16 pm

The Foley/Beale axis is superb, has everything really, nothing has passed through it all game.

Nandolo has been a massive threat all game, Slade's kicking has been excellent.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 12:21 pm

Great finish, hell of a kick. Glad the Tah's did it.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 12:22 pm

I don't think I'm bigging up my player too much to say Nadolo is a genuine top class winger. I really hope Fiji can get it all to click together soon, their backline is immense in talent
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 1:08 pm

He's scary CJ, needs to work on his kicking and high balls but he's a huge threat.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:06 pm

I wholeheartedly disagree that Folau has no kicking game to speak of.

Foley looks a player. 4 N will be huge test for him.

Looks like Oz may have someone capable of pushing a fit and firing Cooper

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 3:26 pm

When Quade's back, start Genia, Cooper with Toomua at 12, bring Foley and Beale at 12 on from bench, deadly. Wait till JOC is back (signing for reds apparently part way through season) and Speight is eligible and the backline is so dangerous. If Mogg learns to defend, Godwin stays fit and Kuridrani improves his hands, the strength in the backs is scary
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 02 Aug 2014, 4:12 pm

I think Folua kicked once in that game and it went out on the full, he doesn't kick very often and is very hit and miss when he does. To be fair, he doesn't need to a lot of the time because he counters so well and scares defences.

I just can't see Genia starting again soon, his performance level has dropped so low from his a few years back he's not impacting games at all. White & Phipps (and Burgess) have all performed to a higher standard this season.

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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 9:17 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I think Folua kicked once in that game and it went out on the full, he doesn't kick very often and is very hit and miss when he does. To be fair, he doesn't need to a lot of the time because he counters so well and scares defences.

I just can't see Genia starting again soon, his performance level has dropped so low from his a few years back he's not impacting games at all. White & Phipps (and Burgess) have all performed to a higher standard this season.



Yawn

Genia vs lions first test was from another planet. Had a dip this year due to injury but best SH in world with smith.

Beale foley axis great but at int level would struggle defensively unfortunately. Love to watch Beale. Think foley looks the real deal but like fekitoa want to see how they do in 4n and next season. Often more difficult when teams know how you play. Think both will thrive though.

Amazing how slade plays well for crusaders but poor for anyone else.

Lol at burgess included in that list. Burgess possibly worst SH ever to play for Australia

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 9:52 am

Rolling Eyes 

Debate the point not the poster please Matt. Its the summer break and you two are getting tiresome already.

Genia a long way from best in the world for me on his form of the last two seasons. One or two good performances doesnt save him when Smith, Care & Murray have been consistently good. On current form hes Oz's 3rd choice for me. Agree Burgess is a poor scrumhalf though!

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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 9:57 am

Care and Murray would be some contest for lions shirt if it toured today

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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:03 am

For me the likes of fdp Genia etc just in a different bracket. FDP has incredible skill set

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:15 am

Having the skill set and actually using it are two different things though. If just basing on skill set alone Ruan Pienarr would probably be the best in the world and Ben Youngs would be up there as well. Morgan Parra another.

Quade Cooper can do things with the ball no other 10 can but doubt any of us would have him as best 10 in the world at the moment.

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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:25 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Having the skill set and actually using it are two different things though. If just basing on skill set alone Ruan Pienarr would probably be the best in the world and Ben Youngs would be up there as well. Morgan Parra another.

Quade Cooper can do things with the ball no other 10 can but doubt any of us would have him as best 10 in the world at the moment.

Very true fdp has the skill set and can use it

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:31 am

Agree. Doussain is another with a fantastic skill set. Can be out of this world for Toulouse on his day but doesn't do it often enough.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:42 am

Is Danny stays in form, now that he has shown he can do it at Int level, he's unplayable. Everyone knows he will snipe and quick tap but nobody can do anything about it
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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 2:10 pm

That was a great s15 final. Foley was great and Phipps defence was unreal

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 2:32 pm

Care has developed a consistency he didn't have before. Decision making also much improved.

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Post by Guest on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 2:59 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Care has developed a consistency he didn't have before. Decision making also much improved.


Yes he has it all now and is defo England number 1.

In the times or telegraph today there was an article about how Lancaster is set to try Farrell at 12

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 3:04 pm

Oh dear
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 8:07 pm

Doesn't surprise me that he'd want to try Farrell there - could see it working very well if he plays alongside Ford - takes the kicking pressure away from him and gives another kicking option at no12, which Lancaster seems to like. Farrell fills in a lot for Sarries at no12 and you know you aren't going to get a running guy who breaks through tackles but wouldn't have said any of the other contenders have put their hands up for the jersey.

Someone with Ford or Cipriani's running and passing game could change the England backline. Will be very interesting to see what happens at Bath next year as you look at their backline and they could provide 3-4 starters for us by 2015 WC.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 9:46 pm

Have to say it sounds better than other out of position plays but will the passing be good enough?
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:09 pm

I reckon so CJ - Farrell played all of his youth rugby as a 12, started there for Sarries before injuries put him into the 12 shirt. To get the best of Tuilagi and the backthree we need a flyhalf with a great passing game and if Ford has a good season and sorts out his kicking he'll be our no10, Cipriani could be but he'll push on if/when he signs for a bigger club than Sale and gets a bigger pack to play behind.

Just really hope Deveto kicks on this season, really rate him but this season could make or break him if they decide to play Burgess as a no12.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:21 pm

Come to Quins, Cips! Learn from Nev, play outside your mate Care and the England 9, with Yarde and Brown outside you and the England Captain in charge (plus Marler and a style that suits you)! Genuinely would be great for Quins and for Cips' England chances
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Post by Fluxy on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:23 pm

I know it sounds daft, but Faz 10 and Burns 12?

They could interchange when needed, and Burns provides the spark and pass like Cips. 

Rumours Quins are in for Cips and a back rower for next season, but can't remember who!

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:34 pm

Wood or Haskell would be nice. Or an Aussie post RWC, would take several of those! Easter will probably retire so ideally someone replacing him to take the load off Clifford
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 6:36 am

Farrell is and will never be a good 12

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 9:48 am

He's played there very well for Saracens when he's had the opportunity though.

All depends on what you want from your 10/12 combination - gives two good kicking options, tough tackler - he wont get you over the gainline, but Manu will do that. If you have a creative no10 then he'd work there no problem - no worse than the other options we have.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 11:28 am

I've never rated him at 10 but always had the feeling SL would put him there at some point.

A 12 who offers no running threat is not the at to go imo

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Post by Guest on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 11:34 am

Burns at 12
Would be a disaster. The word turnstile springs to mind.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 11:40 am

Agree, wouldn't play Burns at 12.

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Post by Guest on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 11:45 am

We need players playing there correct positions and not square pegs in round holes.

Farrell has played a lot of 12 so could understand the reasoning.


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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:09 pm

Farrell seems a pretty intelligent player too - not sure if it works having two big centres for England without a really creative no10, so Burrell and Tuilagi wont work, Twelvetrees has had his chances but doesn't seem to have the consistency to go beyond being a very good club player and Eastmond isn't physical enough and doesn't have the kicking game.

Clutching at straws a bit playing Farrell there, but can't see Deveto nor Burgess coming through quick enough for 2015 and Ford and Farrell have played a lot of rugby together previously.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:12 pm

Deveto has defensive issues and Burgess isn't even playing union yet, I don't see how they're currently in the frame.

I still like to see Burrell given a shot, he was the best 12 in the AP last year and has a good all round game.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:14 pm

Or Manu could move to 12 and we could play a "flair"/kicking option at 13?
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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:38 pm

I'm with Pooly on this one.  12. Burrell 13. Tuilagi and give them a run together through the AI's to see how they go.
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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 1:03 pm

Deveto doesn't have defensive issues as a no12 - when he played at no13 for Bath people ran through him a bit but that's because 13 is so hard to defend if you don't play there. Few pundits have been saying he's a wildcard for 2015 - it will come too early.

From the sounds of it Lancaster is looking for more of a midfield that might bring the backthree into the game - Farrell, Burrell and Tuilagi in my mind wont do that. Need Farrell in there as he's just a reliable kicker, sure Ford had a better kicking % than Cipriani last year, so neither of those two could really be seen as dead certs in kicking terms.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 1:11 pm

Deveto is a problem defensively, every game I seen him at 12 he was caught out. Slips off tackles too easy but he's still young.

Ford must have kicked at 60% last season at best, his place kicking was dreadful. He kicked on last season but he worryingly fell apart when it mattered. He was awful against Saints.

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 4:35 pm

Was the oddest game against Saints, first half was looking like a top class player and then he fell apart second half - but then again so did the whole of the Bath team.

Have to disagree with the Deveto - he's a big lad, sure he's 6ft 4inches and is strong upfront tackles, he did struggle when he went out wider though. They reckon he's put a stone on in the off season, so hopefully that will help him this year too.

Wonder which youngsters will come on this year - Walker and Clifford at Quins look like they could be very good. Bit unusual at Wasps as we haven't really had anyone coming through, though we've grabbed a young fly half from Saints Harry Sheppard who is meant to be very good. Itoje of Sarries looks like he could have a breakthrough year.

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Post by Guest on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 5:01 pm

For glos expect to see stooke push on even further. Ended up a Saxon last year and would expect him to push for inclusion in the full squad. We have a lot of competition for lock though

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 5:07 pm

Deveto is a big lad but doesn't put it in to affect, he'll improve though.

I think Stooke was a token gesture in the Saxons a bit like Scotty Wilson for us, he's nowhere near ready. Barrow was going to be included prior to injury (who's better than Stooke imo) but he needs a bit of work before stepping up fully.

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Post by Guest on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 5:09 pm

Meant England have a lot of completion at lock not glos

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Post by Guest on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 5:10 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 5:12 pm

Yea it's a strong position, Moriarty was fantastic in U20's. He was a total penalty machine last year but has really developed his game.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 6:35 pm

Joe Marler announced as new Harlequins captain.

Interesting decision. Maybe not one I'd have made myself but might see him mature.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 6:46 pm

I think it's a good decision in the long term for Quins and England and in the short term he will have Robshaw, Nev, Easter etc to advise him
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 6:47 pm

Cooper Wooley looks like he has potential at Wasps,
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 04 Aug 2014, 7:21 pm

That's a very odd decision.

I was away with a an Army lad a few months back and he grew up with Marler, played age grade etc. Had nothing but bad words, said he trained poorly and had a bad attitude. Enjoyed his clubbing a bit too much too. He's obvioulsy came on leaps.

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