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Post by Driver on Fri 18 Jul 2014, 1:58 pm

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Breaking News: Saints continue to set the pace with win at defending champions while the Chiefs remain unbeaten after toppling the Tigers 
 




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POSAviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOSTP FP AP DT FT ATBPLBPPOINTS
1Northampton Saints 2200644618842010
2Sale Sharks  22005950974109
3Exeter Chiefs    22005148354008
4Harlequins  21105650665006
5Leicester Tigers 21015048253015
6Bath Rugby21015454056015
7Newcastle Falcons 21014849-153015
8London Wasps  21015054-456004
9London Irish20115153-255013
10London Welsh20024653-746022
11Saracens20024657-1146022
12Gloucester20024861-1347011

 
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 5:39 pm

Ayerza definitely top 3 LHs in the world, probably 1 for me
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 5:43 pm

Agree CJ.

I'd throw Healy in at 2 and Woodcock keeps coming back strong. Bit of a mix after that with Domingo struggling, Beast not good in scrum, Corbs just coming back from injury.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 5:52 pm

Yep, hence Marler next Wink
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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 6:09 pm

Lol...Marler not at that level yet for me

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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 6:41 pm

Good comparison between ford (left column) and Cips in the telegraph today:

Try assists 2 - 0
Place kicks 7/7 - 4/4
Tackles 7/7 - 5/8
Metres 67 - 37
Def beaten 3 - 0

Hopefully ford has got rid of his kicking demons this year as fly half race for England shirt could get pretty close with Burns starting well at tigers, Cips and Ford.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 7:12 pm

Ford, Myler and Burns all looked good at the weekend. Good news if all are putting pressure on Farrell come the WC.

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Post by Guest on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 7:17 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Good comparison between ford (left column) and Cips in the telegraph today:

Try assists 2 - 0
Place kicks 7/7 - 4/4
Tackles 7/7 - 5/8
Metres 67 - 37
Def beaten 3 - 0

Hopefully ford has got rid of his kicking demons this year as fly half race for England shirt could get pretty close with Burns starting well at tigers, Cips and Ford.
Put Cips behind that bath pack and would be interesting to see the stats compared.

I like ford and have always said the meltdowns he has had are all part of improving as a player. I have no doubts ford will become top class

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Post by Guest on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 7:19 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Good comparison between ford (left column) and Cips in the telegraph today:

Try assists 2 - 0
Place kicks 7/7 - 4/4
Tackles 7/7 - 5/8
Metres 67 - 37
Def beaten 3 - 0

Hopefully ford has got rid of his kicking demons this year as fly half race for England shirt could get pretty close with Burns starting well at tigers, Cips and Ford.
Put Cips behind that bath pack and would be interesting to see the stats compared.

I like ford and have always said the meltdowns he has had are all part of improving as a player. I have no doubts ford will become top class 

He is still very young which people often forget or ignore

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 7:42 pm

Agree, rate Cipriani very highly - think he's better than Burns, but Burns will get great ratings as he's playing for Tigers, while Sale seem to be a team that people don't tend to notice as much. They've got a surprisingly good pack.

Myler has impressed me massively last 6 months, he was brilliant on Friday night - amazed they put 50 points on Gloucester.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 8:26 pm

Burns much better than Cips imo, not then a comparison

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 8:38 pm

Cipriani was literally streets ahead of Burns last season. And I mean streets.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 8:51 pm

Burns club for was dreadful but he's much better imo, showed as much in NZ. Burns is a class act, really like him.

If Ford can sort his place kicking and stop kicking possession away he could be quality. Not sure he'll step up to Int though

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 8:58 pm

I thought Cips looked at least as good as Burns in his T1 NZ cameo. And Burns didn't exactly look fantastic in T3...
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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:18 pm

Agreed. Burns has a lot to do.

I'd suggest the form AP 10 of the 2014 has been Steven Myler, however he is perhaps least likely of Burns, Cips and Flood to succeed at the top level.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:25 pm

I just despise Cipriani

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Re: Season 7 Homepage 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:40 pm

Looking to short term loan a TH for a reasonable price or swap
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Post by Guest on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:54 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Burns much better than Cips imo, not then a comparison

Based on what ? As a glos fan I rate burns but in terms of achievement and level of play he has a long way to go to get near Cips.

His defence and kicking  are the issues. Very talented though and not dissimilar to Cips but not same gas

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:57 pm

Cips doesn't have the gas and impetuousness he had before his big injury. He does still have a lovely deep and flat pass though
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Post by Guest on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 9:59 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Burns much better than Cips imo, not then a comparison

Based on what ? As a glos fan I rate burns but in terms of achievement and level of play he has a long way to go to get near Cips.

His defence and kicking  are the issues. Very talented though and not dissimilar to Cips but not same gas

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Post by Guest on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 10:01 pm

Burns should crack on at Leicester and have a great platform.

He was excellent in the first NZ but had a mare in the 3rd.

Think Burns or Cips off the bench with Farrell starting is good news for England

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 11:10 pm

Sad just looked at the other game and my Sarries side could put out a team like this:

Mako/Mullan
Brits/Buchanan
Tameifuina/Brookes/Zirakashvili
Botha
Skivington/Ryan
Brown
McCaw/Fraser
Billy V
Care/Parra
Barrett/Hodgson
Goneva/Varndell/TW/Wyles
Allen
Conrad Smith
Zebo
Halfpenny/Arscott


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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 08 Sep 2014, 11:56 pm

Skivington stands out a bit CJ!

Burns so much better than Cips imo

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 12:05 am

Yeah I've always struggled with locks.
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Post by Guest on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 7:36 am

Wonder
If he has fallen off the wagon again


http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_9461213,00.html

Strange story JD2 hurt as well as Guildford.

Going for a kebab!!

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Post by Guest on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 8:28 am

French to pick form players shocker 

"Kockott is not the only player expected to come into the squad, with in-form François Trinh-Duc almost certain to earn an international recall.

He could be joined by Toulon second row Romain Taofifenua, who has lost some weight since joining the European champions and has been outstanding at the start of the season."

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 8:32 am

Damn it!
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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 9:48 am

Agree with you Steve about Myler, been best no10 in the AP over last 12 months, just don't think he has the qualities to become a great no10 at the next level - has a great all round game but not one bit that you could say is world class.

Ford looked great against Sale at the weekend, not sure what you mean about him kicking the ball away Pooly, as Ford's the best tactical kicker in the AP and is a great part of his game. Only area for me is his goal kickng and that if that messes up his confidence goes.

Cipriani is better than Burns, or has been over last 12 months - think he's more intelligent, whilst Burns still looks for the miracle ball a bit too much in stupid areas of the pitch. Sure Cockerill will sort that out though, have to say Burns looked good playing alongside Youngs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 9:50 am

Youngs/Burns will be the best halfback combo in the league imo.

Ford kicked the ball away more than any 10 in the AP last season. He's a good tactical kicker but he does it a lot. Pretty sure there was a game last season were Eastmond played 12 and never touched the ball all game.

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Post by prop_lyd on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 1:19 pm

Was that the Sale away match where he stormed off after? I think he was on the wing and didn't get a touch.
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Post by Guest on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 2:08 pm

Look
At NZ they kick more than any team.

No problem with kicking ball away if there is a purpose such as pressure, territory etc.

Ford needs to get his goal kicking licked which he will and he will be a great option.

Both burns and Youngs have terrible temperaments and I am sure opposition will target it. Walking cards who get on the wrong side of refs regularly. If they grow up they will be good. Personally think Youngs never will but burns probably will

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 3:04 pm

How often do Burns & Youngs get carded? How often at Int level?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 3:10 pm

Be interesting to see if Figallo can come back at any kind of level for Sarries, could be a decent signing.

Hasn't played for almost a year though so could be shot, such a hard position to stay at a certain level.

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Post by Guest on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:02 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Be interesting to see if Figallo can come back at any kind of level for Sarries, could be a decent signing.

Hasn't played for almost a year though so could be shot, such a hard position to stay at a certain level.
Same with Dan cole corbs jenkins barcella etc any of that lot all were out for
About a year. Cole an even longer time been scheduled as is struggling . Talk of him retiring.

Figallo played last November but it was a serious injury. Saracens would not be able to sign him if he had not passed medical and apparently was fit as of June

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:15 pm

10/11 month out is a long time, especially to hold rating. Wonder if he'll come back??

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:28 pm

Interesting thing about Figallo is the type of injury. Can't play for insurance reasons in France but can in the AP?

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:34 pm

I think the thing with that is, he probably is fit physically apart from his neck. I reckon he might be an accident waiting to happen unfortunately, but willing to be proven wrong there!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:44 pm

Yea I can see him being another retiring player which is unfortunate

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:46 pm

Fluxy wrote:I think the thing with that is, he probably is fit physically apart from his neck. I reckon he might be an accident waiting to happen unfortunately, but willing to be proven wrong there!
That was my read on it as well Flux. Really don't know what to expect of him in the scrum when he comes back. One dodgy engagement could be all it takes.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 4:48 pm

I imagine he'll get one little tweak and call it a day, it's not worth the risk. I can't imagine he'll be anywhere near previous levels either with that type of injury

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Post by Guest on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 5:15 pm

On dan cole

"When the problem was diagnosed last February, there were serious concerns about the Midlander’s long-term future: all too often, such complaints lead to premature retirement.

Only this week, the Wallaby wing Pat McCabe – one of the men expected to face England in the World Cup in September next year – bowed out of the sport on medical advice following the latest in a series of neck injuries.

Cole has the same type of injury so if he comes back he will never be allowed to play top 14 same as figallo. Cole also been out 11 months but nowhere near fit.


To be fair pooly you say everyone of my players are shot and are rarely right. You said it about etzbeth. Players get injured in rugby.

Do you think people on here are that feeble minded that you can influence their predicted scores as I have just named figallo in my side.

I would take your obsession with me and my team as a compliment it was not so weird and bordering on psychotic.

can you use this forum for what it is ie a forum about rugby and not to constantly snipe?

You have been asked many times before by almost everyone. Its tedious move on

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 5:53 pm

Can we not makes things personal Matt, it's a game.

Flux & Johnny have passed comment on Figallo but seem to avoid your latest rant.

It's only a game, there's really no need for this anger.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 6:37 pm

Stepping in now before it kicks off. Don't see the need for a reaction because of a conversation between a few of us. You are both as bad as each other for baiting or trying to influence votes. (Dan Cole out for a year possibly finished... Played in Feb?/The slagging off of JDP in recent pages). Just leave it be please.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:09 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Agree with you Steve about Myler, been best no10 in the AP over last 12 months, just don't think he has the qualities to become a great no10 at the next level - has a great all round game but not one bit that you could say is world class.

Ford looked great against Sale at the weekend, not sure what you mean about him kicking the ball away Pooly, as Ford's the best tactical kicker in the AP and is a great part of his game. Only area for me is his goal kickng and that if that messes up his confidence goes.

Cipriani is better than Burns, or has been over last 12 months - think he's more intelligent, whilst Burns still looks for the miracle ball a bit too much in stupid areas of the pitch. Sure Cockerill will sort that out though, have to say Burns looked good playing alongside Youngs.

Ford's biggest failing last season was decision making. Going for DG from where he was Quins was madness
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Post by CJB on Tue 09 Sep 2014, 10:36 pm

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-Tigers-captain-Ed-Slater-knee-surgery/story-22897519-detail/story.html

Sounds like a bad one from Slater

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Post by dammit_chris on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:51 am

I'm not so sure about Ford having an issue with decision making Mat, think he's a very intelligent player and reads the game very well - he just seems to panic if he misses a few kicks and that impacts the rest of his game. Hopefully Bath can iron that out of him.

See that Pollard is back for SA, looks a real talent.

Would anyone select Watson on one of the wings for England?

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 9:56 am

I'd have Watson in the England squad, but not sure if I'd start him right now.  I hope Lanacster abandons the Tuilagi on the wing plan immediately though.  I would imagine that barring injury or massive shifts in form Yarde and Ashton will start the first AI on the wings.
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Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 10:14 am

I'm shocked Pollard starts in NZ

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 10:30 am

They need to build depth I guess, he'll need to improve on previous. No better place to test yourself

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Post by Fluxy on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 1:59 pm

Very interesting, would be intrigued to know where he would end up after a short stint at toulon;

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9462397,00.html

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Post by Guest on Wed 10 Sep 2014, 2:24 pm

dammit_chris wrote:I'm not so sure about Ford having an issue with decision making Mat, think he's a very intelligent player and reads the game very well - he just seems to panic if he misses a few kicks and that impacts the rest of his game. Hopefully Bath can iron that out of him.

See that Pollard is back for SA, looks a real talent.

Would anyone select Watson on one of the wings for England?
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C J who said fords decision making suspect.
I am a big ford
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Pollard is in because boks want to play a more complete game. I would have picked steyn as you are never going to get a backline going
Properly with pienaar at 9. Pienaar and steyn is a good pairing to beat the boks at the kicking game.

Steyn been unfairly blamed for last weeks loss for missing touch from the pen allowing Aussies to come back. SA press have been on the attack about it and have started to get on Meyers back full stop.

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