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Post by msp83 on Fri 25 Jul 2014, 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lets get in the thread early enough.
India 1-0 up and now is the time to keep up the leel of intensity.
For England a few careers might depend on a quick turnaround in fortune here.
The pitch is reported to have some green on it and is expected to be in between the ugly pathetic track for the Trent Bridge and a lively track for the 2nd test at the HQ.
Not many reports on the England xi, but there are indications that Stuart Binny will be out for India, and by reports coming in now, its Rohit Sharma who might come in.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Wed 30 Jul 2014, 9:05 pm

The only glimmer that keeps Indian hopes alive is England's achilles heel of late. England have frequently got themselves into positions of strength V Sri Lanka and India this summer and thrown away winning positions. If England go mental walkabouts again it could give India a reprieve. That is the only thing that will save them in my opinion.
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Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 30 Jul 2014, 11:37 pm

Gerry SA wrote:
GSC wrote:When Cook, Ballance and Bell got starts they all made big scores, nobodys done that for India.
You mean when Ballance and Bell where aided by Umpire Tucker they fluked a few runs?

Is posting demonstrably false things in a manner insulting to both players and other posters allowed?
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Post by dummy_half on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 7:29 am

As an aside, anyone who was listening to TMS knows that we have to credit Aggers with his 5th test wicket - Dhawan, caught Jordan, bowled curse of the commentator.

Aggers was just saying that he thought it would be Root's last over and that his bowling wasn't doing anything, and no sooner had the words left his lips than he was saying 'and he takes a wicket...'. Not sure that Dravid, as the co-commentator at that point particularly saw the funny side.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 7:43 am

hampo171 wrote:
msp83 wrote:Anderson acting like a clown at the end, he's much better off when focusing on his bowling.......

He didn't do anything wrong, certainly nothing wrong with a little word to the batsmen but the umpire made a massive deal out of it. If it's getting to the point the players can't sledge then cricket has gone mad.
Don't think abusing people is cricket. If Anderson is to shoot off that pathetic stupid mouth of his in public, he'll be walking with his front teeth missing and his arms in a sling more often than not.
Yes a bit of friendly banter is fine, but not outright abuse. Anderson has in recent years, earned a reputation for being a big mouth idiot, its not without reason that Michael Clarke had to talk about the possible situation of his arm last winter.
And now when India are trying to prove a pattern of behavior, this was a bit of a self-goal as well.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 7:57 am

ECB's coverup efforts in the Anderson case is blown? Seems after all there is a video available of the incident.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/incriminating-video-evidence-shot-in-arm-in-jadeja-case/

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 8:07 am

msp83 wrote:ECB's coverup efforts in the Anderson case is blown? Seems after all there is a video available of the incident.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/incriminating-video-evidence-shot-in-arm-in-jadeja-case/

given the confidence with which Indians were going after Anderson..I always felt they had some solid evidence....much more than " my word against your word"

Oh my god......cover-up is against the spirit of the game....it's like picking up a catch from the ground and claiming it ( Raamdin).......
and under ICC laws invokes fine and ban...against ECB

and what about those who gave testimony in favor of Anderson.....was that Prior and Plunket ( or stokes)
ECB might claim.....we already dropped them for that reason  Very Happy 

I fail to see how Anderson can avoid a 4 match ban now


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Post by KP_fan on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 8:07 am

India's only moral victory from 2nd inning.......Anderson, Broad and the entire "English pace quartet" failed to take a wicket so far
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Post by PaulHv2 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 8:48 am

msp83 wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
msp83 wrote:Anderson acting like a clown at the end, he's much better off when focusing on his bowling.......

He didn't do anything wrong, certainly nothing wrong with a little word to the batsmen but the umpire made a massive deal out of it. If it's getting to the point the players can't sledge then cricket has gone mad.
Don't think abusing people is cricket. If Anderson is to shoot off that pathetic stupid mouth of his in public, he'll be walking with his front teeth missing and his arms in a sling more often than not.
Yes a bit of friendly banter is fine, but not outright abuse. Anderson has in recent years, earned a reputation for being a big mouth idiot, its not without reason that Michael Clarke had to talk about the possible situation of his arm last winter.
And now when India are trying to prove a pattern of behavior, this was a bit of a self-goal as well.
 
You have no idea what was said, it is more likely that Anderson had a little chrip at the batsmen, considering replies showed it was no more than one or two words, and the umpire decided to get involved incase it got firey. Seen plenty of players do it in the past and we'll see plenty of players do it in the future, nothing wrong with it in my opinion and I'm sure the Indian bowlers have done it to the England batsmen in this series.
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Post by Duty281 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 9:17 am

Well said Hampo. clap

I think England will polish this game off by tea; India tend to fold more than fight in a situation like this.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 9:19 am

msp83 wrote:ECB's coverup efforts in the Anderson case is blown? Seems after all there is a video available of the incident.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/incriminating-video-evidence-shot-in-arm-in-jadeja-case/

The ECB should release a statement questioning the accuracy and margin for error on this video replay
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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 9:23 am

Olly wrote:
msp83 wrote:ECB's coverup efforts in the Anderson case is blown? Seems after all there is a video available of the incident.
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/incriminating-video-evidence-shot-in-arm-in-jadeja-case/

The ECB should release a statement questioning the accuracy and margin for error on this video replay
 Laugh  clap 

Clearly we should have to agree to use this footage.
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Post by Mike Selig on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:08 am

Rohit has a very ugly poke outside off and nicks through to Buttler. 1 down, 5 to go for England.

If people are seriously suggesting Rohit could open, they should check the way he played all 3 balls this morning. All a decent way outside off, and he poked away from his body at each one. Just a matter of time until he edged one.

Terrible batting when trying to save the game, and just the start England wanted.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:09 am

Lovely start for England!

Broad and Anderson on the money straight away.

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Post by Scrumpy on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:11 am

about time!
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:12 am

so Rohit avoids selection dilemmas...ashwin will replace him and most likely Gambhir replaces Dhawan.

and Rohit's dismissal shows why Hot Spot ( DRS) cannot be relied Very Happy 

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Post by liverbnz on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:20 am

KP_fan wrote:India's only moral victory from 2nd inning.......Anderson, Broad and the entire "English pace quartet" failed to take  a wicket so far

Or... they've lost wickets to England's 5th and 6th bowlers. Not much of a morale booster that is it?

Anyway Anderson has what he deserves.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:23 am

Wicket number seven of the match for gorgeous James!

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:25 am

Nice one Jimmy!

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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:26 am

Probably best to ring the kitchen and tell them not to bother with lunch
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Post by Scrumpy on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:26 am

Jimmy's not bad for a clubman.
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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:29 am

4th bowler to have 100 wickets caught by the keeper.

Read, Ambrose, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler? Did Jimmy get a run while Jones was in the side?
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Post by Mike Selig on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:29 am

Anderson exploiting some poor technique from the Indians gets Dhoni with almost a carbon copy of the Rohit dismissal. Anderson has bowled beautifully in this test.

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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:30 am

I saw a lot of tweets saying this declaration was too soon but it felt to me like it had some real intent for the first time in a long time. You have to dangle the carrot to get a team to play.

Game on now.

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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:31 am

trebs!
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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:33 am

GSC wrote:4th bowler to have 100 wickets caught by the keeper.

Read, Ambrose, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler? Did Jimmy get a run while Jones was in the side?

He made his debut back in 2003, Stewart had the gloves. Not sure if he took a catch from him though.

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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:34 am

GSC wrote:trebs!

Morning Sir.

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:34 am

trebellbobaggins wrote:I saw a lot of tweets saying this declaration was too soon but it felt to me like it had some real intent for the first time in a long time.  You have to dangle the carrot to get a team to play.

Game on now.
hang on........

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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:35 am

Haas trebs just Backed India for the win?

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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:37 am

oops. possibly.

still think Cook needs county time but he has done his bit to shut me up.

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Post by Mike Selig on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:39 am

Game on, Trebs? Surely India have this one in the bag? Jadeja we know scores 300s for fun and is capable of batting at well over a run a ball; Rahane England just can't seem to get out cheaply. etc.

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:43 am

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:
GSC wrote:4th bowler to have 100 wickets caught by the keeper.

Read, Ambrose, Prior, Bairstow, Buttler? Did Jimmy get a run while Jones was in the side?

He made his debut back in 2003, Stewart had the gloves.  Not sure if he took a catch from him though.

Stewart and Jones both did take catches off Anderson.

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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:45 am

Mike Selig wrote:Game on, Trebs? Surely India have this one in the bag? Jadeja we know scores 300s for fun and is capable of batting at well over a run a ball; Rahane England just can't seem to get out cheaply. etc.

I think England should concede now to be honest.

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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 11:48 am

After 3 second innings wickets the confidence is flowing through Jadeja
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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:14 pm

plunks to come back for jordan next test for me.
Jordan is a decent fielder but its not enough

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Post by Fernando on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:17 pm

Jadeja out bowled by Ali England v India 3rd Test, Ageas Bowl - Page 13 3559488474 152-7

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Post by Fernando on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:21 pm

Ali gets another 152-8

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:22 pm

India has decided to focus on the next test match already at the close of play yesterday
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Post by Duty281 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:23 pm

How have India, supposedly good players of spin, lost twelve wickets to Moeen Ali? He's doing well, yes, but not that well!

As expected though, India not showing much fight.

And there's number eight!

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:30 pm

India seamers bounced out Eng and Eng spinners spun out India
Sweet revenge
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Post by Fernando on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:32 pm

154-9 - Moeen Ali gets 5

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Post by Scrumpy on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:32 pm

Fiver for Ali. Very Happy 
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Post by Mat on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:35 pm

Moeen!

Good work from the clubman and a Village bowler this morning.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:36 pm

Who's deciding this man of the match lark then?

Cook has been an exemplary captain in this Test, and has two half-centuries.
Ballance and Bell have scored centuries.
Anderson and Ali have got five-fors.

Hmmm....

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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:42 pm

Lunch break and the new ball in the afternoon should encourage Eng if Rahane is able to stay out there and protect the last man for a while.

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Post by Pal Joey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:44 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Lunch break and the new ball in the afternoon should encourage Eng if Rahane is able to stay out there and protect the last man for a while.

Look what you've done, trebs.

It'll be all over in the next few balls now.  Smile 

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Post by Scrumpy on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:49 pm

The new dawn begins.
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Post by mystiroakey on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:50 pm

Huge win- 11 wickets needed to win by 266.

Well done- series back on..

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Post by GSC on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:50 pm

Fine victory for England, the veteran players showed why they've earnt chances to regain form.

Fairly poor performance by India. Batted particularly poorly on a good pitch, fielding looked shabby.
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Post by trebellbobaggins on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:51 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:Lunch break and the new ball in the afternoon should encourage Eng if Rahane is able to stay out there and protect the last man for a while.

Look what you've done, trebs.

It'll be all over in the next few balls now.  Smile 


and it was.  king 

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Post by dummy_half on Thu 31 Jul 2014, 12:51 pm

MotM is a tough call. I think I'd just go with Jimmy, because his bowling in the first innings on a hot day and a reasonably good batting wicket (at that point) was exemplary. Moeen close with his bowling in both innings and honourable mentions for Bell and Ballance with outstanding batting contributions first up and then decent cameos in the 2nd knock.

Good test for Cook as well, with runs and most of his captaincy seeming to work well, but I think he's still a little short of prime form - second innings runs were more of a battle than they would have been if he was absolutely at his best.

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