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Post by GPB Mon 04 Aug 2014, 12:41 am

First topic message reminder :

Congratz To Rory for reclaiming the #1 spot. Very well done by the Ulsterman.  Sergio gets to #3, his highest ranking since he broke up with Greg Norman's daughter.

And welcome back to the winners circle for Geoff Ogilvy.  He should get up to around #125 and an invite to the PGA this week

1 Rory McIlroy 9.408
2 Adam Scott 9.237
3 Sergio Garcia 7.780
4 Henrik Stenson 7.669
5 Justin Rose 7.460
6 Matt Kuchar 6.771
7 Bubba Watson 6.668
8 Jim Furyk 6.477
9 Jason Day 6.192
10 Tiger Woods 5.908
11 Jordan Spieth 5.686
12 Martin Kaymer 5.378
13 Phil Mickelson 5.145
14 Zach Johnson 5.016
15 Graeme McDowell 4.905
16 Hideki Matsuyama 4.881
17 Dustin Johnson 4.833
18 Rickie Fowler 4.788
19 Charl Schwartzel 4.171
20 Jimmy Walker 4.155
21 Keegan Bradley 4.146
22 Victor Dubuisson 3.880
23 Steve Stricker 3.879
24 Thomas Bjorn 3.841
25 Patrick Reed 3.763
26 Luke Donald 3.741
27 Jason Dufner 3.725
28 Miguel A Jimenez 3.479
29 Ian Poulter 3.460
30 Webb Simpson 3.404
31 Stephen Gallacher 3.350
32 Jamie Donaldson 3.332
33 Thongchai Jaidee 3.237
34 Lee Westwood 3.197
35 Brandt Snedeker 3.178
36 Kevin Na 3.152
37 Ryan Moore 3.094
38 Bill Haas 3.085
39 Marc Leishman 3.060
40 Graham Delaet 3.042
41 Brendon Todd 2.990
42 Kevin Streelman 2.917
43 Francesco Molinari 2.852
44 Chris Kirk 2.751
45 Hunter Mahan 2.732
46 Jonas Blixt 2.624
47 Joost Luiten 2.594
48 Gary Woodland 2.574
49 Harris English 2.567
50 Matt Every 2.557
51 Matt Jones 2.505
52 Kevin Stadler 2.504
53 Angel Cabrera 2.472
54 Mikko Ilonen 2.430
55 John Senden 2.394
56 Louis Oosthuizen 2.370
57 Billy Horschel 2.334
58 Shane Lowry 2.259
59 Russell Henley 2.244
60 Ernie Els 2.203
61 J.B. Holmes 2.172
62 Koumei Oda 2.170
63 Ryan Palmer 2.158
64 Pablo Larrazabal 2.129
65 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 2.106
66 Brian Harman 2.045
67 Matteo Manassero 2.031
68 Charley Hoffman 2.021
69 George Coetzee 1.988
70 Bernd Wiesberger 1.962
71 Richard Sterne 1.945
72 K.J. Choi 1.908
73 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.862
74 Erik Compton 1.834
75 Brooks Koepka 1.819
76 Tim Clark 1.816
77 Ben Martin 1.797
78 Nick Watney 1.791
79 Fredrik Jacobson 1.768
80 Charles Howell-III 1.762
81 Ryo Ishikawa 1.752
82 George McNeill 1.740
83 Brendon de Jonge 1.735
84 Chris Stroud 1.731
85 Paul Casey 1.706
86 Boo Weekley 1.675
87 Anirban Lahiri 1.659
88 Chesson Hadley 1.649
89 Scott Stallings 1.645
90 Chris Wood 1.564
91 Branden Grace 1.559
92 Kim Hyung-sung 1.539
93 Fabrizio Zanotti 1.538
94 David Hearn 1.525
95 Tommy Fleetwood 1.523
96 Ross Fisher 1.511
97 Edoardo Molinari 1.507
98 Thorbjorn Olesen 1.502
99 Danny Willett 1.499
100 Daniel Summerhays 1.497
101 Noh Seung-yul 1.490
102 Russell Knox 1.482
103 Marc Warren 1.477


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The Euro RC World Point standings should look like this

1 Rory McIlroy 434
2 Sergio GARCIA 363
3 Henrik STENSON 352
4 Justin ROSE 279
5 Martin KAYMER 247
6 Thomas BJÖRN 200
7 Victor DUBUISSON 190
8 Graeme MCDOWELL 167.0
9 Jamie DONALDSON 165.0
10 Luke DONALD 164.3
11 Stephen GALLACHER 156.5
12 Ian POULTER 149.1
13 Miguel Angel JIMÉNEZ 142.9
14 Francesco MOLINARI 136.6
15 Joost LUITEN 124.9
16 Lee WESTWOOD 111.7
17 Pablo LARRAZÁBAL 106
18 Gonzalo FDEZ-CASTAÑO 103
19 Shane LOWRY 93
20 Rafa CABRERA-BELLO 91

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I will post the US RC Standings as soon as they update and the Euro Money standings when available


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Post by GPB Sat 09 Aug 2014, 3:56 am

SuperRealist Tiger out of Top 10 watch

Its inevitable that Tiger will fall out of top 10, but it probably won't be this week.  

Unless Mickelson finishes in a 2-way T3rd or better or Rickie Fowler wins or solo 2nd.


Some Projections:

With a win on Sunday

Rory would probably guarantee the number ranking for the remainder of the year. 
Furyk and Day can get to #3.
Palmer and Ilonen can get into Top 20
Fowler and Mickelson can get to #6
Wiesberger can get to #22.


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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 09 Aug 2014, 10:46 am

super_ will also be pleased to note that Woods will definitely not be playing next week; for all we know it could be at least 2 months, probably more, before we see him again.
Presumably he'll hope to play in his World Challenge as it relocates to Florida in late autumn.

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Post by McLaren Sat 09 Aug 2014, 1:29 pm

Kwini

Is it really that likely we will see him again this year?
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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 09 Aug 2014, 2:06 pm

No idea Mac, But if he's getting some strength and stability back I don't see why he wouldn't have a go at an appearance-fee-fuelled event or two in Asia (after all, that's what he does) and would be very surprised if he didn't try to tee it up at the Tiger Tournament this autumn, November or whenever it is.
But right now a couple of months' rest and massages from Lyndsey are probably the best medicine.

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Post by pedro Sat 09 Aug 2014, 2:17 pm

We'll see him at Gleneagles as Vice Captain.

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Post by sirbenson Sat 09 Aug 2014, 2:25 pm

Do we think Harrington will get a vice captain role?

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Post by GPB Sat 09 Aug 2014, 2:46 pm

Tiger and Kuchar are scheduled to play a team event in Argentina in the Fall.

IIRC, Tiger signed a 3 yr commitment to play the Turkey Tournament last year.

And Tiger (and others) that went to play the first Turkey Exhibition are obligated to play the FRYS.COM PGATour event wihin three years.  That was the agreement that the Tour made so they could get releases for the exhibition.  This October is their second chance.

Some of the others:  Kuchar, Schwartzel, Westwood, Rose.

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Post by hogie Sat 09 Aug 2014, 3:28 pm

sirbenson wrote:Do we think Harrington will get a vice captain role?

I would be absolutely shocked if he isn't.

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 09 Aug 2014, 3:36 pm

Why would Harrington get a VC role?

Not sure what his European Tour credentials are these days - I'd be absolutely shocked if he is!

What's the need after Smyth & Torrance? McGinley has pretty much got to have a European by his side; would think Thomas Levet and Karlsson (if he doesn't make the team) would be better candidates.

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Post by sirbenson Sat 09 Aug 2014, 4:02 pm

Kwini,

Apart from one player he gets on with most European players. He is still on tour unlike Smyth and Torrance. He is also good friends with Paul so I imagine he will get a vice captaincy role

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Post by kwinigolfer Sat 09 Aug 2014, 4:15 pm

sirb,
But then: Why hasn't he been announced?
I'd be surprised - it'll be a very unbalanced ticket if Harrington is appointed. Just don't see it happening.

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Post by sirbenson Sat 09 Aug 2014, 4:28 pm

I would say he probably thought he could still qualify by playing his way in....for which he has no chance NOW

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Post by pedro Sat 09 Aug 2014, 5:05 pm

I'd be shocked to see Harrington as VC. Why? He has nothing to offer. And I don't beleive he gets along particularly well with the players.

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Post by SmithersJones Sun 10 Aug 2014, 3:37 pm

Poor rc record - check
Bad blood with most experienced team member - check
Full of weird ideas - check
Paddy, you're in
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Post by sirbenson Sun 10 Aug 2014, 4:21 pm

pedro wrote:I'd be shocked to see Harrington as VC. Why? He has nothing to offer. And I don't beleive he gets along particularly well with the players.

Where is the evidence of that? Just cause some bitter loser doesn't get along with him, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve not to be a vice captain!?

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Post by JAS Sun 10 Aug 2014, 5:38 pm

sirbenson wrote:
pedro wrote:I'd be shocked to see Harrington as VC. Why? He has nothing to offer. And I don't beleive he gets along particularly well with the players.

Where is the evidence of that? Just cause some bitter loser doesn't get along with him, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve not to be a vice captain!?

Would that "bitter loser" be the current world ranked number 3?? ....as opposed to the World ranked number...?? oh hell I haven't got time to go scrolling that far down.

"Where is the evidence of that?" You answered the question yourself

I just don't see Harrington as Vice Captain or (for that matter) Captain material.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Aug 2014, 12:42 pm

The BIG scoring tournaments are out of the way now, and the "big" three Englishmen are not in the Team, and won't be playing for a fortnight.
I'd be very surprised if Donald, Poulter AND Westwood get "picks", if they need them.

McDowell may come to the rescue if he sits out The Barclays and DeutscheBank while on "paternity leave" - a certain Captain's Choice, but Donald could overtake him with very average finishes.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 12:45 pm

hogie wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Do we think Harrington will get a vice captain role?

I would be absolutely shocked if he isn't.

Des Smyth and Sam Torrance are already in as Vice Captains, not sure why Harrington would be given a role.

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Post by hend085 Mon 11 Aug 2014, 12:49 pm

Mcginley has said his vices will be current players. i imagine that means MAJ, Harrington, Karrlson, Bjorn.

it goes very much against the grain of thought but i think Mcginley will leave Poulter out of his picks. could be a VC!

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 12:55 pm

It could be any player then, not just the 4 you mention. Could be Lawrie, could be Westwood, could be Casey, could be McDowell, could be any one couldn't it?

Anyway, I'd put Bjorn and MAJ well ahead of Harrington.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:06 pm

Bjorn is almost certain to qualify anyway, so he won't be a VC.

Des Smyth and Torrance are as out of touch with current golfers as Ray Floyd & Andy North are; would be very surprised if McGinley doesn't choose a couple of relatively contemporary Europeans as VC's. Not sure whether Jimenez would want to do it . . . .

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Post by hend085 Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:24 pm

i would definitely have MAJ if he wanted to do it. if he has delayed it as long as he has then i suspect it because he wants to pick someone that still has a shot at getting in as a player- this would rule our Harrington.
from the way Mcginley was waxing lyrically on the sky coverage i think Westwood and McDowell are absolutely nailed on to be picked if necessary

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Post by hend085 Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:25 pm

hadnt thought of Lawrie SR- very good shout especially considering there could be no Scottish players.

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Post by hogie Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:50 pm

super_realist wrote:
hogie wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Do we think Harrington will get a vice captain role?

I would be absolutely shocked if he isn't.

Des Smyth and Sam Torrance are already in as Vice Captains, not sure why Harrington would be given a role.

I know you don’t rate Harrington’s golf game very highly despite his three majors so I won’t even go there. But the fact that McGinley and he went to school together in Colaiste Eanna and the fact that they are good friends for me makes it a lock.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:54 pm

So what?
Major's have proven to be completely irrelevant in Ryder Cup as 9C and Mickelson would agree, and I'm sure McGinley is friends with lots of people, doesn't mean they'll all be VC's.

When has anyone been chosen as a VC because "they went to school together"? Nepotism would also be a very good reason for NOT picking him.

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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 1:59 pm

Westwood could be a good wild card pick. Is a bit unstable but makes tons of birdies and know what it takes.

Poulter, F.Molinari and Donald didn't do much good this week though, but it looks increasingly good for his son.

As VC I fancy MAJ or Clarke, or maybe lw1 should he not get a pick. Bjorn will make the team, otherwise he would be a VC.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:04 pm

Clarke would be a great shout, better Ryder Cupper than Cyclops.

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Post by McLaren Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:11 pm

From prince drac on twitter;

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Clearly Westwood is nowhere near on either list. Even Poulter is closer.

I would pick Donald, Gallacher and Born based on current standings.
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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:20 pm

Darren Clarke is the obvious choice. He's been VC before and will probably be captain one day.

MAJ was also VC last time around. Although it may not be important, his "problem" is that his RC record is a bit dodgy (4-8-3) and we might not need more grandpas on the team now with Smyth and Torrance already in. With that being said it would be good to have a continental VC and I can't really think of any alternatives, maybe Levet or vdVelde maybe. (kwini, Karlsson seems a bit out of touch with everything at the moment?).

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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:22 pm

Mac, who is Born? the guy already qualified?

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:23 pm

David Howell? Twice a winner.

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Post by McLaren Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:25 pm

Very true.

It leaves the unsavory thought of Poulter getting a pick.


There is no way the Ryder cup is a priority for Rory these days. His exhibition thoughts must be pretty relevant again.
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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:25 pm

How would you know that Mac?

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:35 pm

pedro,
Agree about DC but am puzzled as to why that wouldn't already have been announced.
Also think Levet has a strong chance - I just hope Karlsson doesn't become the forgotten man.


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Post by McLaren Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:37 pm

Is DC waiting for a captains pick?
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Post by McLaren Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:38 pm

Super

Of course I don't know for sure but from now on Rory will concentrate on the career grand slam and then beating Faldo's six. After that he will move to try and get as close to tigers 14 as possible. Unless the Ryder cup can ever act as a major warm up it will never figure in Rory's goals again.
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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:39 pm

We are speculating Vice Captains Mac.
No one thinks that DC should be playing, that would be as stupid as suggesting Cyclops Harrington as a player.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:41 pm

McLaren wrote:Super

Of course I don't know for sure but from now on Rory will concentrate on the career grand slam and then beating Faldo's six.  After that he will move to try and get as close to tigers 14 as possible.   Unless the Ryder cup can ever act as a major warm up it will never figure in Rory's goals again.

Complete speculation. He's said this very morning that he's keen on being the best European player in history, that includes RC as well as Majors.

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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 2:50 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:pedro,
Agree about DC but am puzzled as to why that wouldn't already have been announced.
kwini, I think McGinley wants to see whether Bjorn, and possibly even MAJ, qualify as players or not.

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Post by GPB Mon 11 Aug 2014, 4:19 pm

Thomas Bjorn is 30 OWGR points ahead of Donaldson, GMac, and Donald.

It would take a perfect storm in the last three weeks to knock him out of automatic qualifiers.  And I think he is the only contending player playing this week.

Donaldson is vulnerable as Luke and GMac will be playing in high OWGR events in the FE Playoffs the final two weeks of the Euro Qualifying period.

Donaldson is playing the Czech Masters next week and not in the Italy field as of this morning.

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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 11 Aug 2014, 5:18 pm

McLaren wrote:Super

Of course I don't know for sure but from now on Rory will concentrate on the career grand slam and then beating Faldo's six.  After that he will move to try and get as close to tigers 14 as possible.   Unless the Ryder cup can ever act as a major warm up it will never figure in Rory's goals again.
 Headscratch If he's winning, he'll be in it whatever. It doesn't affect his trying to beat those other milestones you mention. It'd take some chutzpah from him to either turn down an automatic place, a Captain's pick or, if he does make a team, to obviously not give a scheiss. I don't think his skin is thick enough to cope with the written (or verbal) fallout from any of those myself.
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Post by McLaren Mon 11 Aug 2014, 6:14 pm

Navy

Tiger has had a pretty fine career while not giving a scheiss about the ryder cup.
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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Aug 2014, 7:04 pm

GPB,
If Mrs McDool's child turns up for its scheduled tee time I'd expect Dad to take the Barclays week, at least, off. That would make him vulnerable for guys to pass him. Imagine McGinley has already tipped the wink to him.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 7:32 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

Tiger has had a pretty fine career while not giving a scheiss about the ryder cup.

Then why doesn't he simply not play instead of playing in 7? He might not care, I don't know, but I think you are possibly mistaking his shambolic record for someone who doesn't care. On the flip side, 9C gives the impression of not giving a toss about any tournament he plays in, as Peter Allis has just said, he's joyless and a misery

Before McIlroy played in one, he thought the RC was rubbish, then he played in one and changed his mind.

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Post by incontinentia Mon 11 Aug 2014, 7:58 pm

Either Tiger does care about the Ryder cup, or he's leading Tom Watson up the garden path. He told Tom he wants to make the team "in the worst way" and "I want to make you pick me". Do you think he's faking?
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Post by GPB Mon 11 Aug 2014, 8:37 pm

I think NIKE is pulling some of Tiger's strings.

Nike wants their flagship athletes in their sports biggest events.

And I wouldn't be surprised if NIKE is dangling a pretty big carrot in front of Tiger if he plays.

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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 8:38 pm

Quote of the day:
Tom Watson on Tiger: "I can't assess his medical condition and I honestly can't assess how he's playing. It really is going to be having to come from information from Tiger himself."

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Aug 2014, 8:51 pm

Speculation that Watson is telling Stricker to bring his bats to Scotland so that he can step in for Woods if he should pick him and he can't go.

Watson's been talking out of both sides of his mouth on this; clearly the right decision is to tell Woods to stay at home, but is he under pressure from the PGA, as well as any sponsors, to put him on the plane?

Can't for the life of me see how he can make a valued judgement on someone who won't play to prove his fitness.

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Post by super_realist Mon 11 Aug 2014, 8:59 pm

Not fit, not in form, terrible Ryder Cup record, not good in bad weather, hopeless in partnership with anyone.

Hope Watson picks him.

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Post by pedro Mon 11 Aug 2014, 9:17 pm

I hope so too super. Picking TW would clearly derail the US team and line them up for a severe ass-kicking.

Should he not get picked, their team doesn't look bad at all and could give us a serious run for the money.

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