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Season 7 Homepage III

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 15 Sep 2014, 10:19 am

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Saints remain the only unbeaten side with victory over closest rivals while Saracens win a heated confrontation at the Allianz.
 




2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

POSAviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOSTP FP AP DT FT ATBPLBPPOINTS
1Northampton Saints 66001841503421135029
2Sale Sharks *65011751571821143123
3Leicester Tigers      6402148144414130218
4Harlequins *63211761552120152118
5Exeter Chiefs6321156154214140117
6London Wasps 6303163168-517191215
7Bath Rugby *  6303159156316170313
8Saracens 6204145161-1614150412
9London Welsh6204149163-1413180210
10Newcastle Falcons  6114144158-141213039
11Gloucester6105148165-171316048
12London Irish6015147164-171317057

 
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by Guest on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 3:26 pm

Haskell 6 AJ 8 or bench impact. AJ has limitations but used right is cracking

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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 3:28 pm

Haskell a 6 CJ

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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 8:54 pm

Bad news for SOB. When did he last play?

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Post by Guest on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 11:07 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Bad news for SOB. When did he last play?

When you play like him it's inevitable. Ireland had some wrecking balls over the year like ferris Keith wood etc all of them had injury issues.

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Post by Guest on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 11:38 pm

Alberts and folau touted to be off to Toulon post WC.
Insane!

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Post by Guest on Thu 02 Oct 2014, 11:53 pm

I missed this. 
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3825_9488588,00.html

Ireland have a few worries for 6 n. They have no depth at 1 or 3

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 12:38 am

Louis deacon likely  to retire 


Leicester, meanwhile, are concerned that their long-serving lock Louis Deacon may not recover from a long-standing back injury. “There is a possibility he won’t come back but you hope that’s not the case,” said the chief executive, Simon Cohen. “Louis has been a great servant of this club and the important thing is we safeguard his future.”

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:19 am

Theres decent depth at 1 these days for Ireland Matt. McGrath & Kilcoyne both handy looseheads. TH still an issue though. Moore looks a prospect and theres a few just out of the academy but not much else.

SOB hasn't played for Ireland sine the All Blacks game last AI. Had a handful of games for Leinster at the back end of last season/start of this but nothing else in the last year!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:22 am

Jesus that's a while, I didn't realise it was that long. They really miss him as Heaslip/Henry offer little in terms of carrying, they become very predictable.

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:28 am

There was an article that said 2% of rugby players in the UK retired due to injury last year. Such a brutal game these days, they're worried about Parling now as well with his concussions.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 10:52 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Theres decent depth at 1 these days for Ireland Matt. McGrath & Kilcoyne both handy looseheads. TH still an issue though. Moore looks a prospect and theres a few just out of the academy but not much else.

SOB hasn't played for Ireland sine the All Blacks game last AI. Had a handful of games for Leinster at the back end of last season/start of this but nothing else in the last year!

McGrath and Kilcoyne are pretty untested for me. Seen them have tough times in games I have seen.

Playing heino rugby will help them develop.
McGrath is young in prop terms and is a prospect. Would worry about him in a big international

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 12:36 pm

Glos lineup for Leicester is disappointing 

Everybody wanted Laidlaw 10 Robson 9.

Robson been on fire where Laidlaw and hook have not settled yet. 

Atkinson has looked really good when coming on and could be worth a punt on here

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 1:47 pm

Robson's decision making isn't quite there yet for me, he's a good impact player though. But raw but he'll be a good 9 in a few years, I like him a lot.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:27 pm

Look like you have a gem in chiocci pooly. Once he gets proper game time and sorts out his scrum flaws he will be diamond. 

Great around the park. A year to 18 months and he will be  top. Toulon will sort his scrummaging. His bind is a penalty waiting to happen but he has it all. Only 24

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:30 pm

Toulon so well coached but have wc in big positions that kick from giteau to Juan Smith was amazing.

2 world class decision makers.
 
Always liked giteau and smith was best player in the world for years and now looks to be back as good as ever.

Throw in world class players all over and Toulon are a machine.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:33 pm

Smith a long long way from a world class player now

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:51 pm

JJ is finding his form nicely again this seasons. At his best is a real option for Eng at 13.

Gets a battering for his defence in predos but not much wrong with it from what I watch.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:53 pm

Hard to say that. Consistenly one of the best toulon players. Not best player in world anymore but certainly in world class bracket although maybe just short of it.

Great player and to come back after his problems shows the character and class of him.

Joseph is back and looks electric. Had all that promise and then went to pieces. Looks sensational

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:56 pm

Steve he has been in a hole for 2 years and been dreadful defensively. This year he has been like he was when he broke through and defensively sound. Never be a big hitter but pace and defence good again. Shows what confidence does

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 8:56 pm

Joseph started really well.

Smith was anonymous for SA. Meyer took one look and sent him back, he's nowhere near world class. He was amazing for years but injury has ravaged him, he's a shadow of the player he was.

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Post by prop_lyd on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:04 pm

How do people rate hooper on here? I haven't played him this season but seems to be having a good influence skippering bath
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:07 pm

He's steady Prop.

Ford having a nightmare with the boot??

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:07 pm


Meyer did not send him back smith he dropped out


"As things turned out, Smith was rather anonymous in the test against Argentina, and even though he was selected to tour Australia and New Zealand with the Bok team, he declined, saying that he needed to be fitter"

Its what started the debate that top 14 does not produce players fit enough to.play int rugby. Its also why dan leo moved back.

read the rugby news and you will be better informed


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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:09 pm

Ashton had a mare. Defensively dyslexic

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:10 pm

Ford goal kicking has a fundamental flaw. Too rhythmic so will always be up and down unless he changes technique

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:15 pm

Don't need to read anything, Smith had a shocker and showed he's not up to that level of rugby.

Meyer seen him first hand, sent him back and brought in a kid.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:21 pm

Eastmond looking tasty. Ford can't play for England, he goes to pieces with the boot.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:21 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Don't need to read anything, Smith had a shocker and showed he's not up to that level of rugby.

Meyer seen him first hand, sent him back and brought in a kid.

yawn so you don't take fact that he was selected and dropped out? Its universally reported?

you really would argue black is white.

dont need to read it lol.

He had a bad game like many boks. Jdp got 1/10 bdp 1/10 as all boks were poor. Only louw went well im that match.

as my dad says you can't communicate with stupid. Its the biggest barrier in communication

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:24 pm

Matt can you stop it with the personal attacks. As soon as we have a debate you start it with the personal stuff, there's no need.

You stated Juan Smith was world class, I pointed out the reasons he wasn't. At what point did I question your intelligence?

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:26 pm

Bath look tasty. I feel bad saying that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:31 pm

Yea they look very good.

I'm going to report you to the mods every time now just to let you know, might make you think before posting.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:42 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote: Sad Sad Yea they look very good.

I'm going to report you to the mods every time now just to let you know, might make you think before posting.

I Try and post rugby things and you just try and say opposite every time. First time been on here for ages due to holiday. You argue black is white.

Grassing to the moderators ?Sad I am scared. Is
There a counselling button ? Lol

I am always the one who has done nothing wrong
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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:44 pm

That bath pack provide quality ball. Ford great with ball and opens
Things. When he can kick will be wc.

Rokadunguni was great and defensively was ok.
Is
Learning. Attwood very impressive these days

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:47 pm

Matt, it's called debating. We have differing opinions and we both like to voice them. There's nothing wrong with having a different opinion, it's a forum.

You cross the line when you make it personal, I never say anything about you personally. You do it every time and I've let it slide, Johnny has told you numerous times also.

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 9:58 pm

Giteau is a better player than when he left which is an achievement.

A lot to be said for moving on.

Lots of the players who
Went to Japan said they are better for it as they get to
Focus on skills rather than physicality Etc.

Kaino looks much better for it.

Be good
To see some of our lads have a bash and then come back be it in Rabo, s15 or Japan.

In football we have the same where literally none of
Our players
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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 10:16 pm

Sign of a good team is being able to work out how to win when getting butchered in the scrums

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_9501921,00.html

Not many people win here.

Giteau was truly exceptional

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 10:50 pm

Agree with you there Mat, look at how much Haskell has improved since his stints abroad. Looks so good for Wasps these days.

Can see it happening a bit more between WCs but quality of AP seems to be improving all the time!

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Post by Guest on Fri 03 Oct 2014, 10:53 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Agree with you there Mat, look at how much Haskell has improved since his stints abroad. Looks so good for Wasps these days.

Can see it happening a bit more between WCs but quality of AP seems to be improving all the time!
Haskell has
Matured and looks great. Adds depth.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 10:22 am

Would people choose Rokodungi as a starting winger for England in the AIs? He's looked so good for Bath this season, has to be in better form than any of the other choices?

Joseph has to be a consideration now as well for a bench spot, along with Foden - all three have looked in fantastic form the last 2-3 weeks.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 10:30 am

It's a difficult one.  You always have to take form into some consideration, but for me we are at a point where Lancaster needs to nail his colours to the mast and start picking the team that he thinks is going to face Wales and Australia in the world cup.  Those guys need time out on the pitch together and time is the one thing that is fast running out.
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Post by dammit_chris on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 10:56 am

Who would you have Pete?

The players who have impressed me and aren't currently in the match day 23 would be Rokogundi, Ford, Foden, Joseph and Slade.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 10:57 am

Foden was really poor against us, he looked decent against Bath though. I don't think he's good enough for England. Not sure Roko is good enough either but he's in great form. Ford an option from the bench but goal kicking not good enough to start.

Agree Pete, we have a core and I don't think he'll change too much.

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Post by Guest on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:02 am

Roko in good form but he is like a blind man under the high ball and if kicked in behind.

If bath don't have superiority up
Front you see his limitations. Vastly improved defensively but still needs a lot of work

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:10 am

My own opinion is now that we need to try what we think our best side is against SH opponents so we should go with the guys in the squad now.

But, saying that, I think the performances (not necessarily results) in NZ suggest we still could still afford to try some stuff out. Strongest available team needs to play at least one game against one of NZ or SA in my opinion in the AI's. Not sure if and when we play them but we need to gauge where we are at.

I myself wouldn't go for Rokaduguni unless Ashton, Yarde, May or possibly Nowell were available.

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Post by Guest on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:39 am

Agree Steve. Think we need our lads to have a settled side and stick with it. Yes 12 is undecided and a few other position like back up 10 and wings. Lancaster is paid big money to make decisions so he should make them. Not a fan of Lancaster and think giving him a huge extension to his contract was silly. If we flop next year we are left with a coach with 6 years left on his contract

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:59 am

It is a tough mix between allowing every player in the RWC squad decent game time or do you gamble and get 20 or so really ready and hope they can fit into the starting side.

There are positions like LH where we have 3 options who have shown they are international class where we needn't worry. Places like 12 and it gets tricky. Do Lancaster choose his favourite now and stick with him? Or do we try two guys in different games? What happens with Burgess?

Other way to look at AI's could be to say for example right, we're happy with Hartley at hook, Lawes at 4, Wood at 6, Farrell at 10, Manu at 13 and Brown at 15. Those guys can sit out and we can have`a look at the next option to see if we have a quality to replacement.

If we play Farrell every game until RWC then he gets injured in the first game we don't have a international standard 10 for the RWC and that is a disaster. In my view we need to pick a second choice 10 and give him game time in big games. Then gamble we don't get an NZ 2011 situation where we get hit hard in one position.

Positions that worry me regarding depth after first choice are flankers and 10.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 12:07 pm

It's a hard balancing act but we need some continuity I think, we need familiararity.

There's certainly a core.

1. Marler - Mako
2. Hartley - Webber
3. Wilson - Cole
4. Launchbury - Attwood
5. Lawes - Parling
6. Wood - Haskell
7. Robshaw - ?
8. Billy - Morgan

9. Care - Youngs
10. Farrell - Burns
11. Yarde - May
12. Twelvetrees - Eastmond
13. Tuilagi - Burrell
14. Ashton - Wade/Nowell
15. Brown - Goode

That's a young team with a strong back up option in every position, I'd be happy with any of those coming in.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by dammit_chris on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 12:12 pm

By and large the squad is settled, you'd think there will be guys he wants to try out who haven't had a chance, Wade must be an option and you'd think Burgess could be in with a chance as no12s aren't really putting their hands up, if Twelvetrees doesn't start to step up he could struggle to get in the squad. Eastmond got shown up against NZ and showed that he isn't an international no12, but could feature out wider.

Also not sure about Goode at no15, he's great for Sarries, has a great all round game but nothing that makes him stand out at the next international level - Foden or Watson there as Brown's replacement, but Watson needs to stay injury free.

No7 is an issue, as Robshaw is a great captain and I rate him highly but he isn't a world class no7 at all and no one seems able to put pressure on him at all, Kvesvic has really stalled and Fraser doesn't play week in week out for Sarries. If he gets injured we're in a bit of trouble there.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by Guest on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 12:12 pm

Burns as a back up would not work. Had one decent game in NZ and then a horror show. Mixed good and bad for
Leicester also. Would have ford or Cips as they are the form players. Burns is like Cips was years ago. Needs work and game management.

Agree with most of the rest. Croft will be straight back in as Lancaster likes him and he offers us something different. 

Would not have eastmond or 36 in the squad. 36 is in wretched form for glos. Looked better at 10 for
Us. 

Think Fraser will be back up 7

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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by dammit_chris on Sat 04 Oct 2014, 12:35 pm

I'd be tempted with Eastmond in the squad, but for a wing position as he could be brilliant in final 20 minutes - though if Wade is in the squad not sure you'd take them both.

12 big issue with me, Burrell surely has the shirt at the moment, but can see either Slade or Burgess having a good shout. Can't see Burgess flopping.

Attwood has been fantastic this season, not sure who the 4th lock will be if Parling doesn't recover.

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