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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 15 Sep 2014, 10:19 am

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Breaking News: Saints remain the only unbeaten side with victory over closest rivals while Saracens win a heated confrontation at the Allianz.
 




2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
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POSAviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOSTP FP AP DT FT ATBPLBPPOINTS
1Northampton Saints 66001841503421135029
2Sale Sharks *65011751571821143123
3Leicester Tigers      6402148144414130218
4Harlequins *63211761552120152118
5Exeter Chiefs6321156154214140117
6London Wasps 6303163168-517191215
7Bath Rugby *  6303159156316170313
8Saracens 6204145161-1614150412
9London Welsh6204149163-1413180210
10Newcastle Falcons  6114144158-141213039
11Gloucester6105148165-171316048
12London Irish6015147164-171317057

 
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage III

Post by Guest on Wed 29 Oct 2014, 11:36 pm

Kruis not impressed me either but is highly rated. Paterson best lineout forward I have seen this year in prem

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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Oct 2014, 11:38 pm

Don't think Paterson is England level but on form deserves shout. 
His form is excellent. 

That said int rugby very different and lots of players who don't stand out at club have been excellent at int level.

That's why we are not coaches

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Oct 2014, 11:44 pm

I'd take Paterson over Kruis every time, he stands out in a weaker pack. Kruis wouldn't be near if not at Sarries

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:02 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd take Paterson over Kruis every time, he stands out in a weaker pack. Kruis wouldn't be near if not at Sarries
Think they have gone for potential. Launch lawes and Attwood are the core. Paterson 27/28?????

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 1:26 am

I'd be more concerned with having cover for the WC, Kruis is miles off the level of other top locks and he isn't going to improve substantially in 8 month

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 7:22 am

Kruis isn't miles off that level.

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Post by Driver on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:39 pm

Kruis is quality , he's 22 and leading one of the best lineouts in club rugby?

I'd say he's got more about him than Dave Attwood.
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Post by Driver on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:40 pm

Barbarians: T Nanai Williams (Chiefs), F Halai (Blues, New Zealand), J de Jongh (Stormers, South Africa), F Saili (Blues, New Zealand), N Cummins (Coca Cola West Red Sparks, Australia), C Slade (Crusaders, New Zealand), T Cubelli (Belgrano Ath, Argentina), M Stevens (Sharks, England), J Parsons (Blues), A Ta'avao (Blues), D Bird (Canterbury, New Zealand), A Kellock (Glasgow, Scotland), A Thomson (Canon Eagles, New Zealand), M Todd (Crusaders, New Zealand), S Luatua (Blues, New Zealand)
Replacements: M Schwalger (Chiefs, Samoa), T Du Toit (Sharks), L Adriaanse (Sharks), H Brussow (Cheetahs, South Africa), M Alemanno (La Tablada, Argentina), S Pretorius (Cheetahs), J Tuculet (Grenoble, Argentina), M Boshoff (Golden Lions, South Africa).

Read more at http://www.espnscrum.com/barbarians/rugby/story/245785.html#yWCbDu9V8iBZ5lAT.99
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Post by Driver on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:42 pm

New Zealand: Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Charles Piutau, Aaron Cruden, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Victor Vito, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jeremy Thrush, Charlie Faumuina, Nathan Harris, Joe Moody. Replacements: Keven Mealamu, Wyatt Crockett, Ben Franks, Brodie Retallick, Liam Messam, Augustine Pulu, Daniel Carter, Julian Savea
Read more at http://www.espnscrum.com/newzealand/rugby/story/245851.html#v5UlVLWJuoyu2EHw.99
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:48 pm

I thought you said Bird wasn't considered for AB's as he was injured????

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 12:49 pm

Driver wrote:Kruis is quality , he's 22 and leading one of the best lineouts in club rugby?

I'd say he's got more about him than Dave Attwood.

I'm just not seeing it in him, just seems underpowered around the park.

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 1:06 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I thought you said Bird wasn't considered for AB's as he was injured????
He has played no rugby and was not considered for the tour due to coming back from injury. Surprised to see him in this. 

He was on the list of kiwi players not considered due to injury.

To be fair he would not have seen any game time probably so maybe best option is to play this and some lower level club rugby to get back to full fitness ??

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 1:52 pm

Any of you use this site ??


http://www.therugbysite.com/blog/defence/a-helping-hand-to-steal-possession?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Wayne+Smith+-+a+coaching+journey+Murray+Kinsella+a+helping+hand+to+steal+possessionHow+to+share+videos+with+your+players+non+subs&utm_content=Wayne+Smith+-+a+coaching+journey+Murray+Kinsella+a+helping+hand+to+steal+possessionHow+to+share+videos+with+your+players+non+subs+Version+A+CID_eb5a2597f9c8dfffa11f553afb0322c8&utm_source=email

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Fantastic sections on coaching and breaking down the game. Used lots of the ideas and drills on here

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 1:57 pm

Often read their blogs Matt some great insight on there. Don't coach myself but mate of mine does and has the subscription

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 30 Oct 2014, 2:34 pm

Romano was picked though??? Strange

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Post by Fluxy on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 3:19 pm

Just looked at the fixture list, so glad I'm playing Saints & Wasps in the AI's! Chief

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 5:44 pm

Looked fantastic towards end of season and throwing was good. A bolter for wc as 3rd hooker with webber and Hartley 
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_9541122,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 5:47 pm

His throwing was dreadful up at our place, he's not even starting for Exeter at the minute so he'd be quite a bolter.

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Post by Driver on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 5:48 pm

Jack Yeandle looks a handy enough 2.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 5:52 pm

Isn't Yeadle captain too?? LCD has a few years learning the trade yet, he should be focusing on getting in the Exeter team.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:07 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:His throwing was dreadful up at our place, he's not even starting for Exeter at the minute so he'd be quite a bolter.
Not been available after getting sent back from England tour. Fact England coaches are monitoring him
Says something

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:08 pm

Driver wrote:Jack Yeandle looks a handy enough 2.
He has been excellent all year and is a really good prem player

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:10 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Isn't Yeadle captain too?? LCD has a few years learning the trade yet, he should be focusing on getting in the Exeter team.
The coaches are excited by him as he is a real athlete. I also think he needs a few years. Front row take time. He is ahead of the curve but for wc I would have Youngs, Gray and ward ahead of him

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:10 pm

LCD has bags of potential, he'll be on the radar over the next few years but so far from ready at the minute.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:11 pm

The problem with the Quins boys is Ward can't throw and Gray can't scrum. If you could join them you'd have quite a player.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:15 pm

Gray is an ok scrummager. Put him with sinckler who is learning but a bit off being a scrummager and he struggles.

He is a similar level to Youngs scrummaging wise as in not brilliant but not poor. Hooker so dependent on th but as Bruno (best ever seen scrum wise) Hartley etc show a big scrummaging hooker can make a dent

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 6:51 pm

Great article and sums I what I feel


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/11200734/Stop-this-endless-scouring-of-every-refereeing-decision-and-allow-the-man-in-the-middle-to-do-his-job.html

Barnes and peyper my favourites and scrum wise I like poite.

The tmo makes bad refs like Clancy even worse as they look to validate every decision

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:00 pm

Anybody seen anything of Chisholm or Howells?

Gibson is decent but surely not an emerging youth ? Great work rate 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sponsored/sport/lv-cup/11199641/rugby-lv-cup-2014-15.html

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:03 pm

Dean Mumm's captain of Exeter I think.

Anyone know if USA v ABs is on tv tomorrow at all? Sounds like
A 65000 sell out, could do wonders for the game over there.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:12 pm

It's on sky 7.30 pm.

Chicago has a decent rugby scene and it is great news that it's a sell out. My cousin moved out there for a uni scholarship and says standard decent and he played national 1. Says it's really explosive but not that technical and things like mauls are a lottery. He also says the reffing is diabolical which hinders set pieces.

He is going as it's near (6 hours drive away lol). Lots of Polynesians in America also so an appetite for the game.

They produce athletes and so many people leave college American football and drop away. Rugby a big game in universities over there and growing.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:15 pm

Maybe Yeadle is covering whilst Mumm is out.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:20 pm

Glowing review of  Kurindrani on rugby club and how important he is to Australia. Be interesting to see Genia back fit. He played with injury for a while to help reds out and was poor. Back to his best he is wc and only 26. Phipps has been excellent so he has a tough job to get back. Expect he will be rusty after
So long out.

I think Australia are
A danger come WC time Moore will be back Carter emerging and potential backline of

9 Genia/Phipps
10 Cooper/Foley
11 Speight
12 Toomua
13 Kurindrani
14 AAC 
15 Folau

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:21 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Maybe Yeadle is covering whilst Mumm is out.
Correct. Yeandle been captain every game I have seen. Good all round player.

Baxter is a canny coach he finds players

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:39 pm

Genia has been out of form for about 2 seasons now, maybe he won't get back to previous standards??

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:47 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Genia has been out of form for about 2 seasons now, maybe he won't get back to previous standards??
Great vs lions but laboured on with an injury for nearly a year. He was by a distance best in the world but smith is now in that position.

He has to perform to get a move over seas and is a wc player and competitor so think he will get back. Expect a ropy performance Saturday though as not played for 6+months.


Bit like when BOD Mccaw Dallaglio etc out injured for long duration you know they are that good that even at 70% are better than most others. Genia one of the greats of recent times.

Amazing how young he is. You would think he was 30+ as been around ages.

Aussies had some wonderful scrum halves Farr-Jones gregan Genia have pretty much covered my rugby watching life. Amazing how many caps they have gained and such stability

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 7:55 pm

Interesting review of Burgess from laulau greenwood etc on sky. All saying he just needs to keep it simple and be that crash or decoy option.

I want burgess to play so all this constant debate stops. Itoje the sarries lad is a real exciting prospect. Apparently already being considered for England squad as an apprentice NZ and SA style

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 9:23 pm

Wonder when he will get his first game, sure he would have been penciled in for the LV Cup games - sounds like Bath are really considering playing him in the backrow due to their injury issues. Not sure that'd work.

Itoje is arguably most exciting young English prospect in the game - you'd think he'd be ahead of Jackson Wray for Sarries at the moment.

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 9:39 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Wonder when he will get his first game, sure he would have been penciled in for the LV Cup games - sounds like Bath are really considering playing him in the backrow due to their injury issues. Not sure that'd work.

Itoje is arguably most exciting young English prospect in the game - you'd think he'd be ahead of Jackson Wray for Sarries at the moment.

From that under 20 team I like the 13, burns, Itoje and moriarty as players who will make it. As a glos fan moriarty has done well off the bench and has bulked but is still a bit small for 6. We play him as a 7 but rowntree and England see him as a 6 according to Walshe.


I like the lad Earle (is that his name ) from that team. Raw as hell and defensively would struggle against Steven Hawkins but he has dynamite X factor. Bit like Watson from Irish/bath at that age. Watson should be England bench for me. A real talent

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 9:50 pm

He might force his way into the England starting XV. like Brown a lot as a player but Watson has something special about him - would certainly have him over Foden and Goode, although Foden's probably shown the most form of late.

England certainly producing a lot of talent at the moment!

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 9:55 pm

It's because of our academy systems. We do produce athletes rather than instinctive players.

My nephew is in England u13s and Glos development and they have exit strategies and set patterns now they play 15 a side.  When I played it was only representative at 16,18 and 21

What happened to play what you see? NZ produce ball players who take the right options. We produce power and organisation in our players

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 10:00 pm

In the loose is the worst rugby site going but this is accurate.

Found out the other day there is nothing to stop me selling my World Cup tickets for profit 
http://intheloose.com/2014/10/31/turns-government-blame-world-cup-ticket-mess/

Weirdly 6nations tickets are protected and punishable as they go through clubs

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 31 Oct 2014, 10:49 pm

Is disgusting that they didn't stop the re sale of World Cup tickets - there was one for the England v Australia game that was sold for over 2000% face value!

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dammit_chris wrote:Is disgusting that they didn't stop the re sale of World Cup tickets - there was one for the England v Australia game that was sold for over 2000% face value!
Legally I could sell all my tickets for 5-10 times face value. When you think cheapest qf ticket 150 ish and semi 225 it's silly money.

I would never sell mine on for anything over face value if I could not go.

My Ireland vs France at millennium are 150 each for a group game and not even best tickets. I picked up my Wales vs England 6n tickets today and best millennium tickets are 85each.

Only good thing is kids tickets cheap. Got my nephew tickets for every England game and between 12-15 quid. 7quid for Kingsholm
And 9quid for Samoa vs South Africa at villa park my ticket in same area 89 quid.

No kids tickets past group stages so like 6n you pay top dollar for a 13 and 8 yr old.
Cost of int rugby is in danger of completely alienating masses. My tickets for NZ and Australia for autumn where I will make a night of it are 92 quid, train 80, travelodge twickenham station 139(split between 2) set lunch at pub 35 quid 2 courses before booze plus drinking, match guide taxis etc easily 400 quid. Scandalous

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 12:01 am

[quote="anonmattyt"]Anybody seen anything of Chisholm or Howells?

Gibson is decent but surely not an emerging youth ? Great work rate 

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Which Chisholm?
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James Chisholm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 2:43 pm

Awful start from Aus against a pretty average Barbarians side.

Genia looks in awful nick, scragged twice at the breakdown and losing the ball in contact. Service is so slow compared to Phipps.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 6:38 pm

anonmattyt wrote:James Chisholm

Excellent player, best forward in the U20 side he captained, can do all the graft stuff but also scores tries, looked one of the best players in our poor a league campaign in a young side. Has some wheels. Can play across the backrow but best at 8 for me
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 7:50 pm

Isn't that Jack Clifford?

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 8:08 pm

Chis is younger and more powerful, less adept on the floor and less swervey. Both play across the back row. Both captained and starred in age grade England rugby. Both offer a lot in attack. Both could bulk up but are young
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 01 Nov 2014, 8:22 pm

Can't recall seeing Chisholm, Clifford is fantastic though.

Really odd watching rugby with US commentators. They're all about the stats if the players...here's SBW...6'4" & 235lb etc etc.

USA looking ok tbh, just struggling to break NZ down.

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