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Post by Adam D on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 9:36 am

Please vote for your favourite response to the question at hand. The judging will be open until Tuesday and further rounds will be published as and when.

To avoid bias, the contenders are not revealed.

Would the death of TNA be a good thing?

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Personally i believe that TNA going out of business would be a bad thing for the wrestling business as a whole as everyone needs to competition to keep them at the top and doing the best they can. If you haven't noticed in the last few months that TNA have been having financial issues the quality of WWE shows have gone down this week NXT ruled Raw, Why? because they have nothing to worry about in the form of TNA.

You could question weather TNA deserve the spot as no.2 in Wrestling in America there is certainly other companies that could step up such as PWG/ROH etc if they managed to get a TV deal. There is no question that previously TNA have had the talent to take it to WWE in the ratings but was let down by poor storylines and an over reliance on old stars like Hogan/Sting to try and build the brand but the storylines still suffered do i need to remind anyone of the Claire Lynch Storyline? Somewhat mockingly id hope WWE pulled out that trick a few weeks a go in the appalling Bella Twin storyline.

Now TNA are letting their top stars walking out the company AJ Styles has left, Bubba Ray the key man in the last year on TNA has walked Kurt Angle is expected to leave at the end of his contract if WWE want him. Why because they have no money. It makes you question weather they would be better off trying to merge with an ROH/PWG type to fill out the roster again. Yes they have Roode,Joe,Lashley,EC III,Aries,Storm & Willow but the problem with TNA is not the main stars it's the midcard which seems to be forgotten about they had a title that wasn't defended for like 10 months.

Their appeal to other wrestling fans was the in-ring action their tag division was superb which has now gone to crap. So maybe a merge is the right way to go for TNA. Could bring back Daniels & Kazarian and newer stars like Adam Cole,Michael Elgin, The Briscoe Brothers,Ricochet,Johnny Gargano. Hell they could even reach out to NJPW and try to get Okada back and actually Frak utilize him this time.

So yes TNA going out of business would be bad for Wrestling in a sense with WWE being able to produce crap but it could be good if it forces them into a merge or another company to bring their A game and try take on the staple that is WWE. ____________________________________________________________________________
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Yes



I’m sure that’ll be the view that’ll have people drawing back their gums and letting out a gasp of air through their teeth but I’ll explain why.



Wrestling fans deserve better.



TNA got lucky, in a sea of independent wrestling companies that the typical fanboy such as myself fawns over the likes of Ring of Honor, DragonGate USA and Chikara that each have a clearly defined product and could given the chance appeal to a broader television audience (for me Chikara in particular would be the choice with its amazing storylines and collection of frankly over the top cartoonish characters), TNA meanwhile became a parody of itself, it forgot what made the company with its high impact X Division, the excellent tag division and by actually two hoots about the females which cannot be said regarding WWE.

In fact TNA was doing for so many years everything right that WWE badly lacked, they were putting on a show that made stars of their midcard, the smaller guys, giving identity to partnerships rather than just pair two singles stars together and they pushed wrestlers rather than centrefold models.



And then the Hogan era blew up. From the two PPVs before that had feuds between Angle & Desmond Wolfe; MCMG, Beer Money Inc & the British Invasion and AJ Styles, Chris Daniels and Samoa Joe we were suddenly reduced to appearances from Sean Morley, Nasty Boyz & The Band. The X Division took a backseat, TNA ‘guys’ were put on the back burner and everything that TNA stood for was slowly eaten away at, it turned into a WCW reboot and we all know where they ended up.



Sure Hogan’s gone now, the cronies he brought along are for the most part gone too and TNA have tried their best to grasp back at what made TNA, the 6 sided ring returned, the X Division gained more prominence and the female division decided to add more than 3 members to its roster, they even brought in a decent tag team from ROH...then spectacularly gave them their first title victory on a house show in front of 11 fans.

In many ways TNA reminds me of the England football team, ran by dinosaurs stuck in the past clinging to their past glories, we support it because we feel we have to, it’d be wrong to wish for it to fail and every now and then it does something that makes you believe in it, that gives you false hope that it has learnt, that it wants to improve, only for it to embarrass itself once more and you curse it saying you’ll never support it again (before then watching it again the following week).

But only through its death can the people who have the power to create televised wrestling, who write the scripts, who create the characters realise that fans have moved on, this is 2014 not 1994 and fans no longer can be drawn in by cobbled together plots and badly fleshed out characters. I don’t have the answers as to what would be better but I do believe that the fans deserve something new, something exciting, something that makes you sit on the edge of your seat once more and believe.
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Post by Samo on Tue 16 Sep 2014, 10:22 am

Voted No. 2. Not only is it a better written arguement, but its one I agree with. I think at this stage TNA is a lost cause and its death should not be viewed as a bad thing but as an example to the other promotions as 'How not to run a company'. They hit the nail on the head, Hogan and Co coming in was the worst thing that could have happened, and it never has, and might never will recover from it.

WWE havent always needed competition. Look at the era from 2002-2007. There were some incredible stories and matches in that period, with TNA just starting to find its feet. The WWE product started dwindling well after TNA was an established brand. WWE's problem is over-saturation, not a lack of competition.


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Post by liverbnz on Wed 17 Sep 2014, 8:24 am

Voted 2. Don't agree with number 1 and I'm a bit fed up reading that WWE needs competition because of the one time in its history it was near put out of business by WCW apparently drove it to write better stories. I don't believe this at all - they stumbled across a great character in Stone Cold Steve Austin and brought through some excellent talent in HHH and The Rock. It was lightening in a bottle.

If Bischoff doesn't fire Austin from WCW, there's a good chance WWE isn't where it is today - producing infuriating stories that follow no logical path whatsoever interspersed with the odd good fued mainly due to the talent rather than the writing.

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Post by Adam D on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 10:30 am

The winner of Round 4 by a 71% to 29% vote is Hero! Hard luck to Fernando who leaves us at this stage of the competition.

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Post by Hero on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 1:14 pm

Booyah Nando tomato

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Post by Fernando on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 1:50 pm

It's not really a surprise. It's something i did during my lunch break Laugh

Can i nominate a question just to urine Hero off Whistle

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Post by Adam D on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 1:58 pm

Do you think he randomly got this subject this time? I was trying to annoy him as best as I could!

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Post by Hero on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 1:59 pm

Ha foiled all round suckers! raspberry

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Post by Fernando on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 2:17 pm

Ive sent you some lovely questions. Im sure Hero would enjoy 1 & 3 Whistle

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Post by Hero on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 2:19 pm

Are they Dean Ambrose related?

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Post by Fernando on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 2:25 pm

That's no.2 angel You'd enjoy 1 & 3 it's embraces people you hate in Wrestling angel

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Post by talkingpoint on Fri 19 Sep 2014, 3:29 pm

well I`m sure by now everyone knows my feeling on TNA - I want it to stay! (I know my opinion has no bearing on the brain of the year competition but I wanted to throw my two pence worth in Wink ).

I don`t agree with Hero, yes we deserve better but better doesn`t equal killing TNA. The reason I support TNA and want it to carry on is because I am invested in its roster of core `TNA guys`, guys like Roode, Storm, Joe, Magnus and EY. I would also include AJ in that category should he ever return to TNA. I don`t want to see them wrestling in other promotions no matter how high their chances of getting signed by the likes of ROH/Evolve/PWG etc. While if that ever happened I would support them wherever they wrestled, it wouldn`t be the same. These are guys who have literally put their blood, sweat and tears into the company over the last 12 years. While Sting and Flair were known as WCW guys, Undertaker, the Rock and HBK were known as WWE guys the likes of Roode, Storm, Joe et al. are TNA guys. That is their home and it is where they have given the best years of their careers.

TNA has many issues that need addressing and yes they take one step forward and two steps back too often, but they are not a lost cause. Far from it. The Hogan era is in the past and I think they have learnt their lesson. Their current roster has a lot of potential and their current champions are all legitimate marquee names for the company (relatively speaking). What TNA need to focus on is developing their mid card to give the wrestler`s careers a structured push - prove themselves in the mid card and earn their spot in the main event slowly being molded into future world champions.

One of the things I`ve always been impressed about with TNA is their ability to reinvent careers - take Joker Sting or Bully Ray two veterans who some fans thought had nothing left to truly give to the industry and yet produced some of their best work with their new gimmicks. Or take TNA`s ability to create tag teams - the MCMG, Beer Money, Bad Company even Roode & Aries and Joe & Magnus worked. I think this is one of TNA`s strengths and would like them to play on it more often. EC3 is another great example of a guy who came from WWE and has been given a second chance and is now thriving. I believe TNA could do great things for other ex-WWE wrestlers and maybe Brodus Clay will be the next guy to be given the right kind of character development to be successful!?

So no, I don`t wish the death of TNA nor do I think it should happen just so one of the indies can take its place. I`m invested in the product because of its core roster and ability to renew careers.

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