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Post by Fernando Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:23 pm

Tonight's WWE RAW opens up with a video package looking at last week. 

- We're live from Buffalo, New York with JBL, Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler. Lilian Garcia is announcing. "No Chance" hits and out comes Vince McMahon, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon to a big pop. Vince asks if we've missed him and fans pop. Vince says things have been in good hands since he left but fans boo The Authority. Vince jokes it sounds like they're under-appreciated. Vince hypes the WWE Network and plugs the current free month offer. Vince plugs Survivor Series being free. Vince plugs Team Cena vs. Team Authority but says we need to raise the stakes. Vince wants the next generation to feel what he feels and understand what true power feels like, true power you've earned. Vince says he remembers when he beat the US government and that was a great accomplishment. Then there was Ted Turner, Time Warner and WCW. He beat them too, laid it all on the line. Then there was the fictional battle with God. Vince proposes Team Cena vs. Team Authority but if Team Authority loses, they will no longer be The Authority. Fans cheer. 

Vince says this would mean that The Authority is no longer in power if they lose. Triple H and Stephanie don't look so sure about this. Vince asks them to take a walk and "No Chance" starts back up. As they're leaving the ring, the music hits and out comes Dean Ambrose. Vince shakes hands with Ambrose and they have some friendly words. Ambrose glares at Triple H and hits the ring as we go to commercial. 

- Back from the break and Vince is backstage with Stephanie and Triple H talking about how good it felt to be out there. There's some tension between Vince and Triple H. Stephanie and Triple H both tell Vince that they have everything under control. Vince jokes about Triple H's tie being crooked. Stephanie tells Vince to be safe heading home as he hops in the limousine. 

- We get a video on Dean Ambrose and Bray Wyatt. 

Cesaro vs. Dean Ambrose 

We return to the ring and Dean Ambrose is waiting. Cesaro is out next. Good back and forth match until they end up on the outside. The light go out and it appears Bray Wyatt is interrupting. We go right to commercial. 

Back from the break and we see Wyatt watching from the stage in his rocking chair. Cesaro takes control and keeps Ambrose grounded. Cesaro ducks the big clothesline and nails a German suplex for a 2 count. Cesaro with big forearm shots to the face now. Ambrose makes a comeback and Cesaro runs into a boot. Ambrose with a crossbody and right hands. Ambrose with a big forearm and a bulldog for a 2 count. Ambrose with more offense on Cesaro until he runs into a big boot. Ambrose bounces right back with the big clothesline for a 2 count as Wyatt laughs. Cesaro counters the tornado DDT with a big uppercut for a close 2 count. Ambrose sends Cesaro over the top rope. Ambrose runs the ropes and dives out onto Cesaro. Ambrose points up at Wyatt. Ambrose brings Cesaro back in and goes to the top. Cesaro brings him to the mat and goes for a backslide for 2. Ambrose nails Dirty Deeds for the win. 

Winner: Dean Ambrose 

- After the match, Ambrose looks up at Wyatt. The lights flash again and Wyatt is gone, nothing but an empty rocking chair. 

- Triple H and Stephanie are backstage. She says Vince taught her that you can't let people see you sweat so they have to be all smiles when they go out. She's nervous and says they have to put the best Survivor Series team together. Triple H brings up Randy Orton but Stephanie isn't sure about it. Triple H calls Orton. 

Jimmy Uso vs. The Miz 

We go to the ring and out come The Usos. Back to commercial. 

Back from the break and The Miz is out with Damien Sandow. Miz takes control early on but fans chant for Sandow to come in. Miz runs into a kick but takes Uso back to the corner for a beatdown. Uso nails a Samoan Drop. Miz dodges the Rikishi splash in the corner and turns it around. Miz comes back in but gets hip tossed. Miz nails Uso with a kick. Uso ends up diving out onto Sandow and Miz. Sandow gets superkicked by Jey Uso and fans boo. This leads to Miz taking advantage and hitting the Skull Crushing Finale on Uso for the win. 

Winner: The Miz 

- We get a look at Mark Henry and Big Show. 

Sheamus vs. Tyson Kidd 

We go to the ring and out comes WWE United States Champion Sheamus for his first match of the night. Back to commercial. 

Back from the break and Tyson Kidd is out with Natalya. We see Rusev's challenge to Sheamus from SmackDown. Back and forth early on. Kidd with a kick to the gut. Sheamus comes back with an Irish Curse backbreaker. We see Rusev and Lana watching backstage. Sheamus drops knees now. Sheamus goes to the second rope for a big knee drop and a 2 count. Kidd makes a comeback and drops Sheamus for a 2 count. Kidd unloads in the corner. Kidd with forearms, elbows and a big kick now. Kidd keeps Sheamus grounded. Sheamus comes back and slams Kidd on his head. Sheamus goes for the Cloverleaf submission but Kidd eventually makes it to the bottom rope. Kidd blocks a move on the apron and springboards in with a missile dropkick, sending Sheamus out the other side of the ring. Sheamus catches a kick and hits the rolling senton on the floor. Kidd still fights back and puts Natalya in between he and Sheamus as a shield. Kidd rolls in real quick and wins by count out. 

Winner by Count Out: Tyson Kidd 

- After the match, Sheamus comes in the ring and drops Kidd with a Brogue Kick. Natalya checks on Kidd as Sheamus leaves and we get replays. 

- WWE Intercontinental Champion Dolph Ziggler is walking backstage. Back to commercial. 

WWE Intercontinental Title Match: Seth Rollins vs. Dolph Ziggler 

Back from the break and out comes WWE Intercontinental Champion Dolph Ziggler. Triple H, Stephanie, Seth Rollins, Kane, Joey Mercury and Jamie Noble are out next. We see a recap of Vince's appearance to start the show. Stephanie cuts a promo and knocks Cena. She says they are winners and will put together the strongest Survivor Series team ever. Rollins will lead the team with Kane, she says. Triple H whispers something to her. Stephanie says their partner will be Randy Orton. Triple H tells Ziggler he's free to side with who he wants. Triple H points out that every time Ziggler seems to rise to the top, there's always someone in his way. Triple H says Ziggler probably does bust his ass harder than anyone in the back but says Ziggler doesn't get credit for it, John Cena does. Stephanie wonders where Cena is tonight. They go on and try to talk Ziggler into telling Cena no. Dolph yells that he wants all of The Authority gone, he wants them out of power. Triple H says that's too bad, he really wanted to give the fans what they want but Ziggler won't let it happen. Triple H books Ziggler in a title match against Rollins right now. Triple H's music hits and we go to commercial. 

Back from the break and the match is underway. They go to the mat and trade holds. Rollins drops Ziggler with a shoulder and takes control. Ziggler finally fights back out of the corner but Rollins nails a clothesline for a 2 count. Ziggler with another comeback and a dropkick for a 2 count. Rollins counters and hits a suplex for another pin attempt. Rollins keeps control and mocks the fans. Ziggler dodges a move and nails a dropkick. Ziggler gains momentum and hits a splash in the corner. Ziggler with more shots in the corner. He goes for the splash but Rollins drops him face first into the turnbuckle. Rollins with a 2 count. Rollins with a headlock now. 

Ziggler breaks the hold and clotheslines Rollins to the floor. Rollins drives Ziggler into the apron. Rollins drops Ziggler's face over the apron as we go to commercial. Back from the break and Rollins has Ziggler down on the mat. They end up colliding in mid-air. Ziggler makes a big comeback and nails a neckbreaker before dropping a big elbow for a 2 count. More back and forth, Rollins with a close 2 count after the powerbomb into the turnbuckle. Ziggler hits the Fame-asser but can't get the pin. More back and forth. Rollins with an enziguri for a close 2 count. Ziggler dodges a Curb Stomp. Noble and Mercury run interference and Ziggler gets decked while the ref has his back turned. Rollins throws Ziggler into the turnbuckle and hits a Curb Stomp. Randy Orton runs in the ring from behind and drops Rollins with a RKO. Noble and Mercury jump on the apron but Orton stares them down. Orton leaves the ring and Kane asks him what he's doing on the ramp. Kane comes in the ring to check on Rollins with The Stooges. We go to commercial. 

- Back from the break and we get a replay of what just happened. Stephanie is telling Triple H about not trusting Orton. Orton comes in and wants Rollins in a match tonight. Orton isn't down with being a co-captain with Rollins. Orton goes on and on at Stephanie until Triple H yells at him to stop. Triple H says he needs Orton on Team Authority. Triple H gives Orton the match for tonight and says they need to settle their beef and when this is over, they're going to war together at Survivor Series. 

- We get a vignette from Luke Harper. 

- Still to come, Henry vs. Show and Rollins vs. Orton. We see Show interrupting Miz TV with Henry on SmackDown. Back to commercial. 

Ryback vs. Titus O'Neil 

Back from the break and Titus is cutting a promo about wanting a spot on Team Authority. Ryback interrupts and comes out to a pop. Back and forth to start but Titus takes control. Titus works Ryback over and talks trash after a big boot to the face. We see The Authority watching backstage. Ryback ends up hitting the Meathook clothesline and Shellshocked for the win. 

Winner: Ryback 

- Renee Young is backstage with Big Show. Show cuts Renee off and makes it known he will be on Team Cena if Cena needs him. Henry starts talking about Mark Henry turning on him. Show says a part of him wants to just knock Henry out of his life. He walks off and we go to commercial. 

Mark Henry vs. Big Show 

Back from the break and Big Show is out first. Mark Henry is out next. Show takes Henry to the corner and unloads. Show whips Henry hard into the corner and he goes down. Show continues but runs into an elbow. Henry with a big splash in the corner now. Show drops Henry with a big kick. Show with an elbow drop and a 2 count. Show kicks Henry out of the ring. Show follows and Henry rams him into the ring post twice. Show comes right back with a big spear and they both go down on the floor. Show brings Henry back in and drops big elbows to the back. Show with a leg submission now. Henry manages to get the bottom rope and break it. Show with big chops now. More back and forth. Henry takes Show down for a 2 count as we see The Authority watching backstage. Henry hits a World's Strongest Slam for a 2 count. Henry kicks Show out of the ring and throws him into the steel steps. Henry nails Show in the head with the steps for the disqualification. 

Winner by DQ: Big Show 

- After the bell, Henry grabs Show and drops him on top of the steel steps with a World's Strongest Slam. 

- Triple H and Stephanie send Kane to check on someone and see where his head is at. Triple H is confident Rollins and Orton will be on the same page after tonight. We go to commercial. - Back from the break and WWE Divas Champion AJ Lee is out for commentary. Renee Young is backstage with Brie Bella. Nikki Bella interrupts and didn't give Brie permission to do the interview. Nikki taunts Brie. Nikki yells at Brie to go to the ring. Renee goes to end the segment but Erick Rowan appears. He grabs some of Renee's hair and twirls it. He lifts the sheep mask and says "pretty." Renee thanks him and hurries off. Rowan pulls the mask back down and we go to the ring. 

Nikki Bella vs. Emma 

We go to the ring and out comes Nikki Bella with Brie as AJ looks on. We see Emma waiting in the ring. The match starts and we get some CM Punk chants. Nikki ends up cutting Emma off and hitting a spinebuster for a 2 count. Emma finally makes a comeback with clotheslines and a crossbody. Emma dodges in the corner and sends Nikki into the turnbuckle. Emma with her submission on the ropes. Emma charges but runs into a dropkick. Nikki with the Rack Attack for the win. 

Winner: Nikki Bella 

- After the match, Nikki has Brie go over and slap AJ. AJ drops Brie and runs in the ring for Nikki but Nikki escapes to the stage. AJ stands in the ring as CM Punk chants start but so does her music. We go to replays. 

- Still to come, Orton vs. Rollins. Back to commercial. 

Back from the break and we get a new vignette for Xavier Woods. He appears to be a preacher and there's a choir in the background. It says "a new day is coming..." at the end. 

Zack Ryder vs. Rusev 

We go to the ring and out comes Lana and Rusev while Zack Ryder waits. Rusev takes control of Ryder and slams him to the mat to start. Ryder fights to his feet but Rusev whips him into an opposite corner. Rusev runs into knees. Ryder with a missile dropkick to the back. Rusev stops a Broski Boot with a big kick to the face. We see The Authority watching backstage. Rusev stomps on Ryder's back and applies The Accolade for the easy win. 

Winner: Rusev 

- After the match, Lana and Rusev cut a promo on the United States Title. Sheamus comes out and says he takes pride in wearing the title around his waist. Sheamus says they're delusional if they think they're taking the title to Russia. Sheamus says when RAW goes off the air, Rusev is in for the fight of his life. Sheamus raises the title up as his music hits. We go to commercial. 

- Back from the break and Cole hypes the Network. Stephanie approaches Lana and Rusev backstage. She wants Rusev on Team Authority at Survivor Series. Stephanie reminds them that Rusev is getting a title shot after RAW. Lana says they're going to confer with Vladimir Putin and get back to Stephanie. They shake hands. 

Fernando vs. Stardust 

We go to the ring and Stardust is making his entrance with Goldust. Los Matadores and El Torito are also in the ring. The Miz and Damien Sandow are out for commentary on this one. Torito ends up knocking Goldust into Miz and Sandow. This leads to Fernando getting the win over Stardust. 

Winner: Fernando 

- We get replays of what's happened with The Authority tonight, including Vince's return. Still to come, Rollins vs. Orton. Back to commercial. 

Seth Rollins vs. Randy Orton 

Back from the break and Triple H, Stephanie and Kane are at ringside. Randy Orton is out first. Seth Rollins with his Stooges are out next. Orton dominates early on and they end up on the floor as we take a commercial. Back from the break and Orton makes his way into the ring where Rollins is. Rollins attacks and sends Orton right back to the floor. Rollins launches himself out but Orton dodges it and sends Rollins to the floor. They come back in and go to the corner. Orton with a right hand and a big clothesline. Orton runs into an uppercut. Rollins drops him into the turnbuckle. More back and forth. Orton dumps Rollins to the floor and slams him into the announce table. Orton back drops Rollins on top of the table. Orton takes apart the announce table and Triple H tries to talk him down. They fight back in the ring and Rollins goes to the top but Orton cuts him off. Orton nails a superplex for a 2 count. Rollins dumps Orton back to the floor and nails a dive through the ropes right in front of Triple H. Rollins brings it back in the ring and springboards in with a knee to the face. Rollins with a 2 count. Rollins goes for the powerbomb but Orton backdrops him. Rollins comes right back with an enziguri. Orton blocks a Curb Stomp with a powerslam for 2. Orton nails the second rope draping DDT. Rollins counters the RKO with a backslide for the win out of nowhere. 

Winner: Seth Rollins 

- After the match, the Stooges and Kane hit the ring. Mercury and Noble try to be on normal terms with Orton. Triple H and Stephanie clap from ringside as Kane shakes Rollins' hand. Orton has words with Triple H and he's upset. Triple H tries to calm Orton down. Orton shakes Noble's hand first, then Mercury's and Kane's. Fans chant for a RKO next. Rollins tries to calm things down with Orton. He apologizes and they shake hands. Orton says he's sorry too and drops Rollins with a RKO. Orton tosses the Stooges and Kane out of the ring. Orton goes for a punt kick on Rollins but Triple H runs in between them and tells Orton to stop. Triple H tells Kane and the Stooges to back off. He tries to calm Orton down in the middle of the ring. Orton walks past Triple H and bumps his shoulder. Triple H stops him and gets dropped with a right hand. The Authority attacks Orton and they beat him down. Orton fights off the Stooges and Kane, clearing the ring. Orton goes out of the ring and attacks Rollins on top of the announce table. Orton drops Mercury with a RKO. Kane and Noble hold Orton while Rollins nails a Curb Stomp on top of the announce table. Triple H comes back over and tells them all to stop. Stephanie tells Triple H to finish Orton. We see Orton's forehead is busted open. Rollins tells Triple H they don't need Orton any more. Triple H tells them to finish Orton. The Authority positions part of the steel steps as Triple H and Stephanie walk off. They lay Orton over the steel steps and Rollins nails a Curb Stomp from the top of the announce table. RAW goes off the air with Rollins standing over Orton. 

- The WWE RAW Backstage Pass post-show opens with Cole, JBL and Lawler. Trainers and EMT's are out tending to Randy Orton, who is still laid out at ringside. Orton is loaded onto a stretcher as Rusev's music interrupts. 

WWE United States Title Match: Rusev vs. Sheamus 

WWE United States Champion Sheamus is out next as Rusev looks on from the ring. Lilian Garcia does formal ring introductions and here we go. They tangle and go to the corner. Rusev smiles. They lock back up and end up in the corner. Sheamus ends up hitting the forearms on the apron but Rusev blocks the second half. Sheamus with headbutts. Sheamus knocks Rusev off the apron. Sheamus goes for the battering ram off the apron but Rusev catches him and slams him on the floor. They come back in and Rusev keeps Sheamus down. Rusev ends up dropping Sheamus with a heel kick to the jaw. Rusev takes control and beats Sheamus up now. Sheamus finally catches Rusev with a big slam and they're both down. They get up and trade blows in the middle of the ring. Sheamus staggers Rusev and knocks him to one knee. Rusev charges but Sheamus runs him over twice. Sheamus with a shoulder in the corner and a high knee. Sheamus with more offense. Sheamus gets dumped to the apron but nails the forearms to the chest again. Sheamus nails the Battering Ram for a close 2 count. 

Sheamus goes to the top but Rusev throws him to the mat. Rusev with a big charge in the corner and a fallaway slam. Rusev covers for 2. Rusev stomps on the back and applies The Accolade. Sheamus fights the hold but Rusev re-applies it. Sheamus fights to his feet and breaks the hold. Sheamus nails White Noise for a 2 count. Fans chant "this is awesome" now. They slowly get up. Sheamus calls for a Brogue Kick but Rusev moves and Sheamus gets hung up on the top rope. Rusev nails a kick to the back of the head and another, sending Sheamus to the mat. Rusev stomps on the back and applies The Accolade for the win after Sheamus fought it but passed out in the hold. 

Winner and New WWE United States Champion: Rusev 

- After the match, the Russian flag drops down and Rusev celebrates with his United States Title. Lana joins him as Sheamus tries to recover on the mat. The show ends with Rusev and Lana celebrating with their gold.

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Post by Samo Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:17 am

I think they missed an opportunity not putting the IC title on Rollins. If the whole Authority beat down Ziggler before hand so it was a squash for Rollins, it would have generated massive heat for Rollins and a huge amount of Babyface sympathy for Ziggler.

Good to see the US title on Rusev. Good move forward for him and this title will mean something now. Although with it being Network exclusive and them pointing that out all night I felt like they were twisting the knife in the UK fans.

Can tell they are panicking about the Network if Vince is making an appearance.

8 days on and still no clearer why Wyatt attacked Ambrose. Typical booking. Need to do something soon before people lose interest.

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:42 am

Am I right in thinking Orton is set to miss Survivor Series due to filming commitments? Headscratch

If so what a f***ing waste of a great angle and push picard

The run in on the Rollins/Ziggler match was brilliant. I do like the way Rollins is pi$$ing everyone off.

For the 5 on 5 we have Rollins/Kane and at the moment Cena. So is it safe to say Ziggler/Show are on team Cena and Rusev and Henry will be on team Authority? Wonder who else will enter the fray.

That 'eyes' promo, was that Luke Harper?

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Post by Hero Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:01 am

I worry for the Ambrose/Wyatt feud.
Ambrose needs a victory after his 0-3 v Rollins whilst Wyatt needs a win coming back from his short hiatus. Wyatt seems to be turning into the new Alberto Del Rio, any feud with him seems to just go on for an eternity and make people lose interest in anyone they're against.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:22 am

Can see why Rusev vs Sheamus was used as a Network promotional tool, but with a few weeks build up and a PPV slot that match would have been huge.

Expecting Cena, Show, Ziggler, Sheamus, AN Other vs Rollins, Kane, Rusev, Henry AN Other

Two picks for babyface team would be either Jericho or Ryback and then Cesaro, debuting reborn Harper or HHH.

I wouldn't have considered HHH before, but the new stipulation and the fact they are clearly going to be pushing for everyone to watch this free on the Network makes me think he could be used.

I can only expect that there will be a screwy finish. Someone will turn on team Cena, god hope its Sheamus, or Orton will return and take out the last few men standing, with The Authority getting a win after. Really think the only way The Authority wins clean is if HHH throws a desperate pick to Brock Lesnar

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:39 am

Wait, can't be Harper

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Post by Guest Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:23 am

Ive been taking little interest in raw lately. When is reigns due back? Too soo to be included in team cena?

I see 'feed me more' ryback is back. Too little too late for him, dont think he'll get to that level of popularity again

Really enjoyed the ending, cracking stuff. Think Orton has played his role brilliantly and Rollins has really excelled since leaving The Shield as I rhink he was often overshadowed by the other two

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Post by ncfclad1991 Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:38 pm

A returning Reigns to feud with Rusev leading to winning the title at Wrestlemania? Perfect way to test the water with him holding a title and would give him a massive pop if he returns to save USA from Russia.

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Post by Samo Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:22 am

There is only one person I want to see take the US title back from Rusev. unfortunately its looking less and less likely. A guy can dream.

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Post by Prometheus Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:28 am

Does anyone think that Rusev might go all the way to face Brock at WM?

It is something that I'd have definitely said no way to a month or so ago. But as time passes and his push continues and other names drop out I still find it very unlikely, but not now impossible.
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Post by Kay Fabe Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:15 am

Prometheus wrote:Does anyone think that Rusev might go all the way to face Brock at WM?

It is something that I'd have definitely said no way to a month or so ago.  But as time passes and his push continues and other names drop out I still find it very unlikely, but not now impossible.
I'd say definitely no on this, I do think they're giving him the monster build up so Cena has someone "big" to go over but im u sure whether he'll take him to Mania or he'll be the guy Cena has to beat to get to Mania....(as if we'd ever get a WrestleMania without Jumpin' John)

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:21 am

No payoff for either then really. Both heels.

Its an old WCW belt...

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:49 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:Am I right in thinking Orton is set to miss Survivor Series due to filming commitments? Headscratch

If so what a f***ing waste of a great angle and push picard


Tbf I'd be more upset with the angle if he was back next week, this gap will give him a real chance to sell the injury, that said I think a surprise return at Survivors would be the best time to bring him back if possible, the St Louis crowd would lose there s***

Overall I thought it was an enjoyable Raw but the cracks were clearly showing in terms of roster depth and the show had a last minute thrown together feeling about it, that all said the final angle was dynamite and one of my favourites in years

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Post by Fernando Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:58 am

What i would love to see next week is Rusev chuck the US Title in a bin and bring back the European Championship. I suspect would go down well in the UK angel

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Post by Unbeliever Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:12 pm

Randy is off to film the Condemned 2: Desert Pray and this was something that was clearly known for some time. I just don't therefore get the logic of giving him such a push and so much TV time. You could maybe argue his exit makes Seth and the Authority look stronger but I don't see it - if anything it just highlighted the unexplained absence of Cena and increased the lack of logic.

Cena looking to build a team and he's absent while one possible member nearly loses his title and the other is put on the shelf for a while.

As Mr G. House says, I think it just demonstrates the lack of depth at the moment in the roster.

I don't see Rusev getting near a World title shot. In less then 6 months time I predict he'll go the down a similar path to Kozlov. Maybe not out the WWE but certainly no higher than mid-card.

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Post by Kay Fabe Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:44 pm

Rusev has to re-name and possibly redesign the US Title as the Russian Title, he can then defend it for as long as he wants against guys trying to win the belt back for America - that kind of basic angle will never lose heat as long as its not the same generic Challengers facing him.

it'd also be logical then to see a guy like Cena try and win the title, not because he wants to be the US Champion but becaude he wants to win the belt back fo4 America, all very basic but it has so much potential

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:45 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Am I right in thinking Orton is set to miss Survivor Series due to filming commitments? Headscratch

If so what a f***ing waste of a great angle and push picard


Tbf I'd be more upset with the angle if he was back next week, this gap will give him a real chance to sell the injury, that said I think a surprise return at Survivors would be the best time to bring him back if possible, the St Louis crowd would lose there s***

Overall I thought it was an enjoyable Raw but the cracks were clearly showing in terms of roster depth and the show had a last minute thrown together feeling about it, that all said the final angle was dynamite and one of my favourites in years

Oh I agree. Would be daft to have Randy show up a week later.

But it's like oh where have I seen that super kerb stomp, oh right back in September! I would've had Triple H deliver the "telling" blow. I feel the momentum that Randy has generated has gone up in smoke.

I do agree with you about lack of depth. Amazing to that with Punk gone and possibly Bryan as well depending on his surgery, that the 2 hottest stars in recent years have gone. Least when Hart and Michaels departed the scene so soon after each other they had Austin and Rock in the wings. Now, who could carry the product forward? :shocked:

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:16 am

I think the Orton push has been done well, including the absence. He's given a snippet and now fans will be eager for his return. And it will come OUTTA NOWHERE, albeit well known by the dirtsheets

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Post by Prometheus Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:20 am

The thing to me about the Orton push is that he's been by a distance the best performer in WWE for a few months.  There's been a lot of slack to pick up with the loss of stars to injuries and poor booking of others and for me he's the one who's kept the product vaguely watchable.  If he'd have not had the prominence he had recently I think the product would have been very much poorer for that.
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Post by Samo Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:08 am

Kay Fabe wrote:Rusev has to re-name and possibly redesign the US Title as the Russian Title, he can then defend it for as long as he wants against guys trying to win the belt back for America - that kind of basic angle will never lose heat as long as its not the same generic Challengers facing him.

This. This. A Thousand times this. He can spend a few weeks, maybe even a PPV rubbing it in that a Russian holds the US title before he decides that its not good enough for him anymore and they rechristen it the Russian Title.

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