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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 04 Nov 2014, 8:39 pm

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Breaking News: Exciting weekend of rugby with two thrilling 24 all draws while Saints unbeaten run came to an end at the Allianz
 




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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage IV

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 5:40 am

Wales defence was awful at times today. Hooper and Kuridrani went through far too easily in two of the tries. SA need one of FDP or Pienaar fit and firing for WC

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 6:13 am

I'm going to post my team to play this week now as got a good connection. Won't pick anyone who was involved in internationals this week. Should get on to change any call ups but if I can't (with mats agreement) could someone make the necessary changes. Will do tactics later hopefully.

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Schalk Brits
3. John Afoa
4. Pieter Steph Du Toit
5. Jim Hamilton
6. Mamuka Gorgodze
7. Luke Braid
8. Nick Easter (c)
9. Ruan Pienaar
10. Steven Myler (k)
11. Jack Nowell
12. Stuart Olding
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Frank Halai
15. Colin Slade

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau 17. Steven Kitchoff 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Charlie Matthews 20. Jamie Gibson 21. Karl Dickson 22. Ollie Lindsay-Hague 23. Luke Morahan

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Re: Season 7 Homepage IV

Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 8:35 am

Just about to watch the game now.
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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 9:48 am

Just about to watch Aussie game heard it was a cracker. Whitelock was great yesterday. Far and away the best 5 in the world. He will become an all time great.

Every time you watch him live it is incredible to see his work rate.

In the program it said Dane Coles was 18 st 7. I find that hard I believe. He looks tiny next to Hartley

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:00 am

Coles looks more like 16st.

Aus Wales was pretty frantic, Foley was superb. Aus scrum took a right hiding.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:06 am

I rewatched the game this morning Pete, be interesting to hear your thoughts on it - was actually amazed at how little attacking ball we give to our back three.

After May scored that try, we didn't use him again really - a real shame that we aren't using someone with that much pace in the best way. Hopefully that will give him more confidence now though as he's looked a little nervous in previous games.

We've got to start trying to play a more expansive game that puts our backthree into space as we wont beat the All Blacks the way that we are playing at the moment - Neil Back writes a good article in the Rugby Paper about the issue and also how we are mucking up at the breakdown.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:30 am

I was delayed watching and am now 10 minutes in. At 8:53 you already see the difference between the attacking nous of the two sides as we miss out on a try that they would definitely score in the same situation. Eastmond makes a break, gets stopped 5 yards out, just right of the sticks. Care goes left to Farrell and Read who is the first defender has his weight going the wrong way initially and a massive gap between him and McCaw who is the next defender. Farrell misses out Wood and throws it to Hartley who runs at McCaw before throwing a shoite pass rather than running at the gap. Eventually after a few more phases Brown knocks on with the line at his mercy.

Basics let us down. The AB's score there 99 times out of a 100.
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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:33 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:I was delayed watching and am now 10 minutes in.  At 8:53 you already see the difference between the attacking nous of the two sides as we miss out on a try that they would definitely score in the same situation.  Eastmond makes a break, gets stopped 5 yards out, just right of the sticks.  Care goes left to Farrell and Read who is the first defender has his weight going the wrong way initially and a massive gap between him and McCaw who is the next defender.  Farrell misses out Wood and throws it to Hartley who runs at McCaw before throwing a shoite pass rather than running at the gap.  Eventually after a few more phases Brown knocks on with the line at his mercy.

Basics let us down.  The AB's score there 99 times out of a 100.
As we discussed yesterday all about execution under pressure

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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:52 am

Wales game is frantic. Folau and north looking dangerous

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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 10:58 am

Jeez Kurindrani straight through cuthbert and Awj. He is so hard to stop but even so they were poor tackles

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 11:02 am

England lack composure under pressure, and for all of England's first half territory and possession New Zealand haven't looked particularly stretched defensively.
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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 11:04 am

Foley looks really composed. Get Toomoua back in and that is some backline. Can play it anyway

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 11:13 am

The other thing the AB's do better than anyone else is build momentum quickly. As soon as the get a score, they step on the accelerator and put you under extreme pressure and invariably get another score soon after. They build their total so well and it just puts the opposition under pressure all the time.
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Post by Driver on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 12:31 pm

I'm just watching Australia game now , North easily best back in the world with Falou.

Watched Ireland yesterday , Rhys Ruddock could get a run in my side at 6.
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 12:40 pm

Imagine a backthree of Savea, North and Falou! Scary thought.

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Post by Driver on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 12:43 pm

It's crazy , I'd argue all 3 are better players than Lomu.
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 12:46 pm

And all really young still - I don't think I've ever seen anyone bump Brad Barritt off in a tackle like Savea did yesterday.

All such good players.

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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 1:02 pm

Savea is so hard
To stop. His work off the ball improves every game. To think he is Someway off his peak years is scary 

Looking forward to going to the England vs Australia game just to see folau. His reading of play and when to enter the line is very special

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 1:41 pm

Folau hasn't been great of late, he needed that try.

Lomu was immense, Savea is a different type of player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Nov 2014, 5:54 pm

I think we can safely say Dan Cole is back. Immense performance from the bench today, didnt expect his scrummaging to be at that level after a good stint out.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 9:27 am

After the dust settled, which team do we fancy at SA?

1. Marler
2. Hartley
3. Wilson
4. Attwood
5. Lawes
6. Haskell
7. Robshaw
8. Vuinipola

9. Care
10. Ford
11. May
12. Twelvetrees/Barritt
13. Joseph
14. Roko
15. Brown

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 10:45 am

Would be happy with that team Pooly, expect it to be fewer changes though
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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 1:21 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:After the dust settled, which team do we fancy at SA?

1. Marler
2. Hartley
3. Wilson
4. Attwood
5. Lawes
6. Haskell
7. Robshaw
8. Vuinipola

9. Care
10. Ford
11. May
12. Twelvetrees/Barritt
13. Joseph
14. Roko
15. Brown

Think that was worst game I have seen wood have. Kaino is excellent but I would let wood have another chance.

Farrell should start and I would try ford Farrell axis against Samoa. Would try eastmond Joseph to see how it went also.

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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 2:03 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2827787/SIR-CLIVE-WOODWARD-England-Owen-Farrell-deliver-timely-kick.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


Must say I agree with quite a bit of this

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Post by Driver on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 2:18 pm

I think if we're going to beat South Africa we need to take the game to them , for that reason alone I'd pick Haskell in the back row. 

I'd line up with

1.Marler 
2.Hartley
3.Wilson
4.Attwood
5.Lawes/Kruis
6.Haskell
7.Robshaw
8.Morgan

9.Care
10.Ford
11.May
12.Farrell
13.Joseph
14.Yarde
15.Brown

16.Webber 17.Mullen 18.Brookes 19.Kruis/Paterson 20.Vunipola 21.Youngs 22.A Watson 23.T Wood
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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 2:29 pm

anonmattyt wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2827787/SIR-CLIVE-WOODWARD-England-Owen-Farrell-deliver-timely-kick.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


Must say I agree with quite a bit of this

Not often I agree with Sir Clive these days, but he makes a lot of sense here.
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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 2:48 pm

I'm on leave this week, guys, can do a game page and do results if you like
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Post by Driver on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 2:57 pm

Go for it CJ , It's tax week in Ireland so SJE will be pretty busy.
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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 3:39 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16016_9559015,00.html

Ups and downs of the weekend performances 

England really should have won
From the position they were in and it was a game the SA9 will not want to remember that's for sure. I would have added care to the list as well as his kicking was really off as well

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 4:08 pm

Both Hougaard and Pollard had games to forget tbh

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 10:18 pm

Dropping Wood and Farrell? Have a word!

We can no longer chop and change for fun or be so exceptionally reactionary to one game. The next chance we have of playing SA is in world cup knock out rugby so let's let out best players have a look at them. Change for sake of it well behind us against tri nations sides.

One change I'd consider is Yarde for Roko if fit.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 10:20 pm

Think if Hask is fit we can swap out Wood
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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 10:25 pm

Why?!? Wood has been consistently excellent in a white shirt! Haskell hasn't got close to his level.

Wood in my eyes is Englands best backrower. Criminal to drop him. If he is dropped I would have massive issues with it.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon 10 Nov 2014, 10:29 pm

Wood hasn't been at his best for a little while and Hask has been playing well for Wasps and played very well vs NZ. Wood is not our best backrower (that honour goes to el capitan) for me, but he is an excellent player. That doesn't mean that when he's a tad off colour we shouldn't let players in form have a go to see whether we really have depth in our backrow. Hask would also add more carrying ability and on current form add to the breakdown, which is where we should target SA anyway, as well as following Ireland's lead
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Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 5:44 am

We'll have to agree to disagree on Wood v Robshaw debate, however I'm firmly in theTom Wood camp.

My own belief is that Lawes, Attwood and whoever is at 8 provide plenty of physicality and keep two genuine rugby brains on the flanks. For me Haskell is only ever a back up at the top level. We can't simply try to emulate Ireland as SA won't make the same mistakes twice in a row. I'd have Wood there to get to SA 's halfbacks and disrupt. They are the key to SAs success or failure.

As much as I'm not a fan of Barritt, against SA with Eastmond at 12. JDV and Serfontein are physical boys and won't be easily gotten through or round. Need a big boy in the midfield I think.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 8:31 am

I'd agree on Wood, I don't think he's been at his best for a while for us. I'd be tempted with Haskell as it gives us a bit more balance. Wood and Robshaw are quite similar but Robshaw is the better player imo.

I'd take Farrell out as he looks off the pace.

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 9:51 am

As a Wasps fan I wouldn't want Haskell starting for England when we have other options available like we do - Haskell is an incredible defender, but for me doesn't carry enough and doesn't link up play.

We struggled on the deck at the turnover, usuallly Lawes and Launchbury really help us out here, but if both aren't available then the best player we have at the breakdown in the squad is Calum Clark.

I'd stick with what we have, possibly get Morgan starting ahead of BV, but Robshaw and Wood are a good combination. Would like to see Marler carrying a bit more though.

Must be quite close to going with Ford and Farrell as 10/12 combination.

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Post by Guest on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 10:20 am

With you on wood as better than robshaw Steve. 

Very important player and has great lineout.

Billy looks a bit unfit to be honest.

We should experiment in the Samoa game. Farrell needs to be our 10 and would move Barritt to 12

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 10:49 am

I'm not sure on Haskell's fitness but he brings more physicality than Wood which would be handy against SA.

I do like Wood but sometimes him and Robshaw just don't compliment the team (perhaps when other carriers are out). It's all about balance at the end of the day.

Wood is fantastic defensively but doesn't possess many offensive qualities, Robshaw just has a bit more of an all round game for me. Both are very good players though.

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 11:19 am

When we have a fully firing pack of Corbs, Hartley, Cole, Launch, Lawes, Wood, Robshaw and BV it works perfectly together as has pace, carrying and the breakdown work of Cole and Launch. For me Launchbury is becoming our most important forward.

Rowntree has done an incredible job with our front five, considering that we had 4th and 5th choice looks playing most of the game against ABs, Mullan and Brookes finishing the game as well. He's a great coach.

Now if only Mike Catt would teach us how to attack!!!

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 12:26 pm

Papers all saying that Eastmond has an illness and will likely miss the game against the Boks, with Ford to start at no10 and Farrell to shift to no12.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 12:47 pm

Looks like Lawes makes it too thank god

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Re: Season 7 Homepage IV

Post by Driver on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 1:30 pm

Need to loan an Academy LH and 10 to cover my bench for AIs if anyone is willing to borrow me some?
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Post by Driver on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 3:45 pm

Hartley to leave Saints

http://www.espn.co.uk/england/rugby/story/247399.html
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 3:46 pm

Sounds like agent talk, can't see him losing out on England spot.

I've got Auturec the Bath LH, looking great this season.

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Post by Driver on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 3:49 pm

That'll do me!
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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 7:29 pm

Yarde replaces injured Roko in only change to squad.

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Post by Driver on Tue 11 Nov 2014, 11:55 pm

Luke Braid joins Bordoux
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Re: Season 7 Homepage IV

Post by Guest on Wed 12 Nov 2014, 8:41 am

Watson Starts in only change for England according to papers

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 12 Nov 2014, 8:52 am

Though they were all still unclear on whether Wood is fit?
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