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Season 7 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 08 Dec 2014, 11:09 am

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Breaking News: London Irish pull off the bottom of the table with win against inform Chiefs, Sale pick up bonus point win against league leaders while the gap between 4th and 5th widens following Quins win. 
 




2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

POSAviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOSTP FP AP DT FT ATBPLBPPOINTS
1Northampton Saints 1311023683214740306252
2Sale Sharks *1310033623273540304346
3London Wasps *      139133583372137333242
4Harlequins *138233673274038302340
5Leicester Tigers13607315323-826290731
6Exeter Chiefs *  13544318324-627280431
7Saracens 13517315334-1928300729
8Bath Rugby *13517337340-333331728
9Gloucester 13508333334-129300727
10Newcastle Falcons *13319316348-3228332722
11London Irish13229318348-3028351821
12London Welsh133010303350-4726360618

 
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 11:39 am

Not sure by a distance but he's certainly cemented his position over the last year.

Nonu & Nalaga have signed for Toulon.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 1:30 pm

As well as Manoa!

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 3:39 pm

Irish getting a bit of a tonking

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 3:52 pm

Fail to see how Nalaga and manoa improve them. Toulon need some more craft. Just buying big bosh plauers

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 4:02 pm

I'm surprised they're interested in Manoa tbh, he's a good player but not really going to improve them.

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:15 pm

Manoa is to replace Juan smith who is back to sa to have a tilt at a wc spot. Etzbeth to be announced as Toulon played this week according to Sa press.

Manoa for me an impact sub don't think he has a proper position

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Post by Fluxy on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:18 pm

Not sure where Manoa fits in with likes of Gorgodze, Steffon and Lobbe

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:24 pm

Agree Flux, just seems a bit greedy. Suspect Smith maybe wasting his time, is he not retiring?

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:33 pm

Manoa will go as second row I think, has improved out of site for Saints and losing him will be a massive blow. But if he can go out and double his wage and spend more time on the bench then fair play to him.

Think it shows why we've got to keep the salary cap over here, as you look at Toulon and next season they could only have 2 French players in the starting lineup and they have hardly any youngsters coming through!

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:39 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Manoa will go as second row I think, has improved out of site for Saints and losing him will be a massive blow. But if he can go out and double his wage and spend more time on the bench then fair play to him.

Think it shows why we've got to keep the salary cap over here, as you look at Toulon and next season they could only have 2 French players in the starting lineup and they have hardly any youngsters coming through!
Agree it's daft. French national rugby will suffer like our english football premiership. Having 75% of players in Ap English qualified is actually good news

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:42 pm

I think Manoa has regressed a little this season, good player but maybe being switched about has hurt him. I always liked him at 8

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Post by Fluxy on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:45 pm

Biggest thing was being moved about for Manoa. I imagine that this is a safety if they can't get Etzebeth.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:48 pm

Manoa regressed? Think he's been exceptional this season, one Saints player who really has stepped up whenever the team start to struggle. He was everywhere against Tigers.

Though have to say Saints are my favourite team to watch at the moment, with Alex King there they are playing such a great brand of rugby and to get tries like they did yesterday with 14 players was brilliant.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:50 pm

Problem with Etzebeth is he's quite injury prone, they need cover

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 5:51 pm

Yea I don't think he's been as good Chris. He was exceptional season before last, still a good player

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 6:06 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Problem with Etzebeth is he's quite injury prone, they need cover

Lol injury prone. Had one season out injured. He has probably 40 caps at 22/23 years old.  As you said before " will etzbeth back the same. Is he finished ? Lol.


This should be framed as your worst every WUM. There has been a few

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 6:26 pm

How is that a wum? He's had numerous big injuries, has he ever played a full season?

Can't see the issue saying somebody is injury prone when they clearly are?!?!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 6:41 pm

To add to the debate I'd say Brad Davies for me is injury prone. It's hardly a slight on a player suggesting he's injury prone.

Although there's injury prone and then there's Tom Croft.....

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 8:51 pm

He has played 20 odd games in 2 odd seasons in super 15. That is not injury prone. All players have injuries and most have the odd season long one.

Keith wood ferris Healy injury prone. Etzbeth barely into senior rugby so impossible to say injury prone. Also as the most abrasive lock on the planet you will pick up knocks. Just like martin Johnson did.

Would not say brad DAVIES was injury prone. Had a couple of bad ones but generally hardy. Good player very physical. Physical players pick up knocks a la mccaw etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 9:50 pm

He's played 4 seasons and has picked up a major injury (missing more than 3 months) in 3 of them.

Season 1 (2011) Currie Cup: Called up but didn't play any games due to injury
Season 2 (2012) S14: Best year, 13 appearances
Season 3 (2013) S15: Injured first half, played 8 games
Season 4 (2014) S15: Injured all season

3 out of 4 seasons he's had serious injuries, missing all or half the season. In fact there only one season where he's stayed kind of injury free.

To me that career to date has been injury prone, if you think different so be it but the stats suggest otherwise.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 9:51 pm

This is by no means a slight on Etzebeth as a player, I think he's a good Int lock who could be very good if given a good run of games.

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 10:15 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He's played 4 seasons and has picked up a major injury (missing more than 3 months) in 3 of them.

Season 1 (2011) Currie Cup: Called up but didn't play any games due to injury
Season 2 (2012) S14: Best year, 13 appearances
Season 3 (2013) S15: Injured first half, played 8 games
Season 4 (2014) S15: Injured all season

3 out of 4 seasons he's had serious injuries, missing all or half the season. In fact there only one season where he's stayed kind of injury free.

To me that career to date has been injury prone, if you think different so be it but the stats suggest otherwise.
Currie  cup  stats are a ludicrous barometer.

Like using magners league appearances. Was 19 in 2011 and not available until certain point and played wc u 20 wc


Played 20 games for stormers in 2012 his first season

Stats are silly especially in your hands 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/southafrica/9661898/Ireland-v-South-Africa-lock-Eben-Etzebeth-ensuring-Springboks-sustain-their-forward-momentum.html

Has played 2 and a bit seasons properly.

Bod played about 2 league games a year in league was he injury prone?

"There are stats and stats. The main difference is the user and the the idiots who use them to
Make a silly point that is not valid "

Ronnie o Sullivan describing people worrying about his lack of match play compared to a circuit regular. He won 6-0

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 10:36 pm

I know there is a debate over whether snooker is a sport but for me o'Sullivan is probably the best sportsman on planet for me: a true one off. Ultimate talent.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 10:43 pm

Fantasic counter debate, personal attack for a change.

I honestly can't see why you're getting so wound up about this, it means absolutley nothing.

He's an injury prone player, that's the end of it really. Will he get a major injury soon....probably. Will he be finished anytime soon....probably not.

You really shouldn't get worked up about such trivial things, loads of players have a tendency to get injured a lot, it's a tough game.


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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 11:17 pm

Here's a nice little fact but Andy Goode has now scored more points than the entire London Welsh first team this season...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 11:22 pm

He was on fire today!

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 11:33 pm

Goode an effective player. Like players like Buxton ed slater fearns deacon Waller Nick wood etc.

A really good AP player. Never an international but amongst the best of the rest.

Simpson has hit great form when I see him and AJ is brilliant for wasps these days.

You need a hooker if Ed is first choice. Mullan one of players of season

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Post by Guest on Sun 21 Dec 2014, 11:42 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Here's a nice little fact but Andy Goode has now scored more points than the entire London Welsh first team this season...
 A few on here wanted Welsh to come up this year instead of Bristol. This was apparently due to bristol buying their way up?
This despite most prem clubs signing about 15 players each season and most not having decent academies.


As predicted they have zero crowds and are a disgrace to the prem.really unfortunate situation for the league 

As I said at the time if you care about rugby you want bristol or 
even Wotcester in prem.
They. Bring in cash and are a proper club. Good for the game. 


Having a team like Welsh means every teams revenue drops. However bristol
Need to grow a pair and win in the playoffs.


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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 7:35 am

There are rumours doing the rounds that London Welsh may fold. Be a shame. A historic club. Amazed any club can be in prem with gates
That small though. 

Is there anyone who has not picked up BP against them?

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 8:45 am

French rumours

Cips to Toulon. Wants to work with jw. Owner wants him to give yo tests though.

Vermaulen to Toulon.

Genia wants to go to stade but bath would need compensation due to pre contract.

Kepu might follow aac to bordeaux

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 8:54 am

Welsh really are a shambles, a shame Bristol didn't come up, read today that Welsh spend less than half the salary cap - just can't compete.

Mat, agree with you about Simpson - he's been very good for us this season, changed his game a lot and isn't just a running no9
anymore. AJ and Haskell have been our best two players, though Davies been a fantastic addition.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 10:03 am

I was extremely happy with Welsh coming up for 2 reasons.

1. I massively dislike Bristol
2. It meant we had less chance of going down

This year I will be supporting Worcester in the playoffs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 11:51 am

Toulon confirm Ma'afu & Manoa, very odd signings imo.

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-breaking-news/20117/toulon-sign-northampton-duo-manoa-and-maafu/

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Post by prop_lyd on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 12:12 pm

Frees up a nice bit of cash for Saints to go for some post-wc players
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 12:16 pm

You reckon they'd have been on much cash Prop? Rumours being banded about Saints have lined up Brookes as a replacement.

Not sure how'd I feel about that one. Brookes is a really good TH but pretty much plays one game and then is injured for 3. I imagine he's asking for big bucks too.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 12:16 pm

Especially for an improvement at TH

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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 1:53 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Toulon confirm Ma'afu & Manoa, very odd signings imo.

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-breaking-news/20117/toulon-sign-northampton-duo-manoa-and-maafu/

Maafu very odd signing. About 20 better tight heads in France. Toulon need a loosehead who can scrimmage as back up to menini

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 2:00 pm

Could be worse, they could have Nick Wood. You reckon he'll get chased next season? You surely need better as back up to compete.

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Post by Driver on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 2:51 pm

Sam Burgess to start in back row tonight for Bath United. 

Clearly have more confidence in him as a 12 if he's playing there for the 1st team and back row for the 2nds.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 2:59 pm

I guess you can be hid a little more in the backs and less likely to give away pens.

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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 3:59 pm

Think it's part of his rugby education. Need to see how it happens in the forwards.


Bath are really giving him a chance. He has a massive skill set and can make it.

Hope he works out in any position. If he makes england team better then I am ecstatic

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Post by Driver on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 4:08 pm

I'd argue it would be easier to hide in the pack than the back line
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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 5:11 pm

Pack is so
Much harder to hide. Driver like me you have played so understand. That's why 12 or wing is the position for
RL players.


Too hard to learn other positions, all ex players agree with this. Will greenwood article on it highlighted it.

In my lifetime brad thorn only one who has done it well. Farrell senior failed

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 5:33 pm

You would however feel sorry for the 20 year old who lines up against Burgess...Bath seem to be bringing him along nicely.

Must be Burrell starting there for us come 6Nations, he's looked in great nick the last two games.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 6:22 pm

This weeks match thread: http://www.606v2.com/t56970-aviva-premiership-round-eleven#2873945

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 7:18 pm

Matawulu just signed for Bath, Genia definitely off elsewhere.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 7:23 pm

No real loss the form he's been in the last 2 seasons to be fair, he'd probably struggle to get past Cook/Young.

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 7:54 pm

You don't watch many Glasgow games do you Pooly...Bath definitely better when Young plays at the moment, been a tad disappointed with how Cook has progressed this season was expecting big things from him from the games he played last year. At moment Bath's big weakness is no9 - surprised they haven't tried to go for Robson from Gloucester, would suit them well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 8:30 pm

Genia has been stinking when I've seen him, I'd rather progress Cook who I like.

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Post by Guest on Mon 22 Dec 2014, 9:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Genia has been stinking when I've seen him, I'd rather progress Cook who I like.



Lol

PhippS is defo number 1 currently but Genia is wc so will come back, it's not like in France where they have realised parra is 4th choice at best and that tilous borde kockett Etc make them play better.


As good as yachvili and parra are they are not team plauers and will lose matches at top level.

Yach retired now but parrA like him played in the era where everythjng was off 9. They know better now.

Parras kicking so bad this season that he is 50/50 to start.

Amazing how life changes. Opposite of Cips. He was garbage and could not tackle etc. Now he is top class and had no attitude etc.

All of our players can go in and out of form. Some can go off radar and come back. Thompson of England Jw spring to mind

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