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Season 7 Homepage VI

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 14 Jan 2015, 3:11 pm

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage VI

Post by dammit_chris on Sat 17 Jan 2015, 11:51 pm

Woods been in great form for Saints and we need his line out work - if Robshaw wasn't captain I'd start Haskell ahead of him.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VI

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 17 Jan 2015, 11:55 pm

Could always drop/change the captain....
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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 17 Jan 2015, 11:58 pm

Wood has been in pretty mediocre form for Saints IMO, picking up penalties and still not at his best, Clark looked the better flanker
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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 12:00 am

Woods line out is useful, and depends on the lock partnership too.
Attwood was our top line operator (16 takes, 1 steal) Lawes 13 takes, 1 steal. Wood just one less take than Lawes.

I just think that Haskell and Robshaw offer more around the park and justifies a slight hit at the line out.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:55 am

The captain should be the best choice out of your best XV. Robshaw at the moment is still in that best XV as long as Steffon isn't eligible.


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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:21 am

Also pleased that Frank Halai has joined Wasps. Hopefully improve his rating as he's stagnated a touch.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 8:16 am

dammit_chris wrote:Woods been in great form for Saints and we need his line out work - if Robshaw wasn't captain I'd start Haskell ahead of him.

Woods hasn't been that good this season, Clark has played better most of the season. Wood is a top player though, not sure if I'd drop him for Haskell.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:10 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Haskell playing really well. Wood's place in jeopardy although I suspect Lancaster won't change unless injury.

Anybody fancy Haskell at 8?

Haskells form has been at 7 and I think if we want to look at him playing then it should be there. I am not a fan of picking players in form at the position they don't play.


Robshaw seems beyond reproach to lancaster though


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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:11 am

Well worth a watch


http://intheloose.com/2014/03/29/5-greatest-tries-time/

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VI

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:28 am

Robshaw is our best backrower that's why

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 9:57 am

Wood has been in great form since the AIs, does so much of the unseen work to let others play. Think he's our best backrower, but Haskell's form you can't really ignore - but good player to have on the bench as he can cover 6, 7 and 8.

McGeechan had an article in the Telegraph today about the 6 players he'd get in the 6Nations squad - Easter, Cipriani, Burgess, Foden, Webber and Wigglesworth. Kind of see his logic, but not on dropping Hartley for the Cardiff clash because it is a hard environment where the Welsh will try and provoke him, pretty sure he had a motm performance the game where Gatland spent 2 weeks slating him before the game there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352965/Six-players-England-must-pick-for-the-Six-Nations-by-Ian-McGeechan.html?frame=3168362

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:11 am

dammit_chris wrote:Wood has been in great form since the AIs, does so much of the unseen work to let others play. Think he's our best backrower, but Haskell's form you can't really ignore - but good player to have on the bench as he can cover 6, 7 and 8.

McGeechan had an article in the Telegraph today about the 6 players he'd get in the 6Nations squad - Easter, Cipriani, Burgess, Foden, Webber and Wigglesworth. Kind of see his logic, but not on dropping Hartley for the Cardiff clash because it is a hard environment where the Welsh will try and provoke him, pretty sure he had a motm performance the game where Gatland spent 2 weeks slating him before the game there.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11352965/Six-players-England-must-pick-for-the-Six-Nations-by-Ian-McGeechan.html?frame=3168362


His articles in the telegraph are the best rugby writing about. Every week has something relevant. You can see why he is one of the all time great coaches. He understands the game like no one else. Really nice chap when you meet him.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:19 am

I prefer Greenwood as I don't always see McGeechan's logic in some areas - he says drop Hartley for Wales game due to the environment and pressure, but doesn't look at Tom Youngs' set piece issues, which have gone wrong in big pressure games at international level before.

Probably do need another no8 in the squad, if it is a choice between Easter and Waldroum you'd have to go Easter I think - not sure who else there is?

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:25 am

Both are good to be fair. Mcgeechan has a history of making big calls and getting them right. Some of his lions selections have been very left field but have then come off

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:39 am

Sure I saw Dean Ryan writing in the Guardian, he makes a lot of sense.

Anyone else seeing a side that can beat Toulon in this years EC? Amazed they ran 60 points by Ulster - though the injuries didn't help Ulster.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 10:56 am

Yes dean Ryan is a great pundit. He has made the guardian coverage worth reading.


He makes some great points. All 3 of those pundits want cips and Easter in the squad

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 12:16 pm

That doesn't make it right.

I wouldn't have Easter or Cips anywhere near. I cant see how either would make the match day squad.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 12:45 pm

I don't think they'd make it in the match day squad, but in the bigger squad they should be there - if you get an injury to BV who do you start at no8 - went badly wrong when Wood was selected last time. Similar with Cipriani, if we lost Ford or Farrell then I'd rather have Cips than Myler.

Article in the Rugby Paper today has Cipriani's tackle success this season at 88%, which makes him statistically one of the better tackling flyhalves. Didn't realise his goalkicking wasn't as good though, and that Ford had a better kicking % than Farrell now does.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:07 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Robshaw is our best backrower that's why

And his form is still very very good, as you'd know if you'd watched us take apart Leicester last week.

Such short memories everyone has
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:09 pm

Well every time I've seen Cipriani he's poor in defence and this is at AP level, the commentators have laughed at some if his attempts they've been that bad.

If he doesn't make it there's obviously concerns as only SL knows how he copes as he seen enough of him on tour. Cips kicking has been a concern for a while, he can be good but he's not reliable which is what you need at Int level.

There's still concerns with Ford as he struggles in the higher pressure games but with Farrell on the bench we have options.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:11 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Robshaw is our best backrower that's why

And his form is still very very good, as you'd know if you'd watched us take apart Leicester last week.

Such short memories everyone has

Totally agree CJ, he's playing better than Wood imo. Both these lads are proven Ints though, there's few concerns. As good as Haskell and Clark have been, the former has never really shone at Int level and the other hasnt played.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:21 pm

Also can I just say that Hask was immense in defence and rescue turnovers yesterday. The general breakdown, we bossed Wasps though. Which is why once again we utterly dominated territory and possession, both tries we leaked were softer than an Aussie pack, it was Wasps' defence which was excellent and our inability to pick the right option and to finish (should have scored 4 tries in the first half alone) that let us down badly. Sadly some englabd players (Care, Marler and Brown certainly) made poor decisions as well as Botica who was pretty dire in execution too
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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:22 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Robshaw is our best backrower that's why

And his form is still very very good, as you'd know if you'd watched us take apart Leicester last week.

Such short memories everyone has

I was not advocating haskell over robshaw but saying that if they were looking to play haskell then they should look at him as a 7 as that's where he is playing.

Robshaw is a real work horse but i still believe we could be better without him.

As a man who plaves so much value on rugby statistics I would have thought that 88% tackle ratio would have floated poolys boat.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:24 pm

Haskell and Robshaw and Wood all fit a 6.5/ L and R/ it doesn't matter what the number on the shirt is combo. Any two of them can play together and frankly it has no relevance at all who wears seven
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:28 pm

Stats are good to back up context. I've watched Cipriani numerous times and he's been very poor defensively. You have to attempt a tackle to miss it also.....

I don't think any of our flankers play as natural 6's or 7's. Haskell could easily start at 6/7, it matters little.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:30 pm

Agree with you there CJ - personally would go Wood, Robshaw, BV and have Haskell on the bench. Look at Robshaws performance against the Aussies and he's our best option there as we just don't have decent no7s available for England. Lack of a genuine no7 makes Launchbury and Cole so important for us though as both are very good at getting turnover ball.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:35 pm

Launchbury is vital to england. He allow us to win quick ball.

Think we wil try and batter teams in to submission in world cup so scrum vital so can see using wilson as he is the best scrummaging tight head we have by a distance.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:36 pm

Our propping options are the envy of the world

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:40 pm

I don't think Matt has ever liked Robshaw to be fair:

"Robshaw is a club player in the same vain as Andy Hazell was as is Dowson etc

Mike Brown is another who looks great at prem but is a million miles from international standard as evidenced every time he has played there.

Robshaw not dynamic enough. not a good enough carrier at the level above. he is a poor mans worsley in that he can tackle like a demon but offers not that much else.

more i watch him the more i think he is a club player. lacks the pace and i do not think physical enough as a carrier. he is surprisingly small."

On Andy Saull for England:

"saull should be a starter particularly if we are trying to play an open game. he offers everything. great carrier, lineout and best of all a linking offloading game. he has time on the ball and sees space.

some of saulls link play is phenomenal. personally i think he is light years ahead of his nearest competitors"

We all get things wrong, I've had some crackers in the past.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:50 pm

You have had some crackers in the present

" Johnny May can't score at int level" etc

If we are looking for an out and out 7 and looking at form then Kvesic is the form 7 in England.

He was dire last year but is man of the match almost every game for glos. He has been amazing this year and also carrys quite well. He has completely turned his game around

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:52 pm

I don't like Kvesic, I don't think he's good enough yet.

I was right at the time on May, he hadn't scored Very Happy

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:55 pm

Stand by a lot of those robshaw comments. He has improved greatly since those comments many years ago.
The comments re brown were 100% correct. Brown was garbage in his early int performances. He went away and worked at his game and improved by as much as any player I have ever seen.

Remember will greenwood saying after one of browns earlier int performances" he is a million miles away form being an int fullback and is not quick enough. Looks like he is running in quick sand"

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 1:56 pm

I love Launchbury, we really miss him. Him and Cole are really effective at the breakdown, takes the emphasis off Robshaw a bit as not many others contribute.

I still think Slater could be a top option when he gets fit.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:00 pm

I think with Brown it is certainly fair to say he had big weaknesses in his game and has gone out to target them and become a better player at the top level. It's what I most admire about him
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:05 pm

Clifford looks like a future international CJ, think Wallace might struggle to get him out of the no6 shirt when he recovers fitness. Was very impressed with him yesterday. You've got some great talent, do think Quins need to improve their centres and replace Tom Williams as a starting winger and they can start really challenging again.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:18 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:I think with Brown it is certainly fair to say he had big weaknesses in his game and has gone out to target them and become a better player at the top level. It's what I most admire about him


Yes it's really admirable what he has done

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:20 pm

Always rated Robshaw, a travesty it took him so long to get capped. Has a great all round game that suits Int rugby.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 2:43 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Clifford looks like a future international CJ, think Wallace might struggle to get him out of the no6 shirt when he recovers fitness. Was very impressed with him yesterday. You've got some great talent, do think Quins need to improve their centres and replace Tom Williams as a starting winger and they can start really challenging again.

I agree on all counts, but think Walker can replace TW. Would like a proper 12 then Lowe can go back to 13 and I think we are much better then
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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 3:22 pm

Very good start by bath in Toulouse!

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 3:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Always rated Robshaw, a travesty it took him so long to get capped. Has a great all round game that suits Int rugby.

Obviously I agree on that too! By all accounts he and Wood were tearing up trees in training before RWC2011 but completely ignored
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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 3:45 pm

Bath are doing well against Toulouse. Three tries in 30 minutes.

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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 4:53 pm

I still can't understand how Garvey is not at least in the England squad, has been a colossus for Bath this afternoon

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:08 pm

Well done bath really fronted up Jonathan joseph was immemse

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:09 pm

Joseph looks like he may have put his hand up for the 13 shirt for England. Best away performance by an English club in years!

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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:11 pm

I do hope we go with Burrell/JJ for Six Nations, looking at Burrell/Eastmond/Manu/JJ as our centres for the RWC

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:13 pm

We have lots of options for the 6N, would be interested to see Garvey or JJ involved
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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:20 pm

I think Garvey is just a very good club player. Like Peter Buxton in many ways. Both were incredible year in yesr out. The reason Garvey does not get picked is due to his pace.

He was fantastic again today.

Agree with those centres fluxy

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:26 pm

Fluxy wrote:I do hope we go with Burrell/JJ for Six Nations, looking at Burrell/Eastmond/Manu/JJ as our centres for the RWC

Add in Slade and I agree
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Post by Fluxy on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:27 pm

Garvey moved to second row, and if he fancied it could forge a really impressive combo with Attwood and be in the reckoning for England. 

I just think other than complimenting each other, there are a good number of combinations as well.

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Post by Guest on Sun 18 Jan 2015, 5:43 pm

As a second row he would have more chance but we have huge depth there also. Every club needs a Garvey type player.

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