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Post by KP_fan on Sun 08 Feb 2015, 7:12 am

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Warm Up game between Ind and Aus ongoing...
it's an official ODI...though after so much cricket why do these sides need a "warm-up"

India's bowling in melt-down and the two most dangerous guys in Aus side Warner and Maxwell get 100s

Looks like Ind will be chasing 375
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Post by kingraf on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 11:47 am

It's never in a million years going to happen like that though. Think it during the India-Australia series where there was an appeal for LBW given not out immediately by Aleem Dar, and then the ball looped up to backward of point or the slips and caught, and the fielding team basically appealed again and it was given. Can't remember the sides exactly, but it was Aleem Dar umpiring.
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Post by kingraf on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 11:49 am

Under the rules, the ball was dead immediately after the first not out.
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Post by JDizzle on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 11:51 am

How is that ball dead after the first not out? If the team appeal for LBW and it's given not out then the batting team can still run, so it is not a dead ball? It's not similar to the situation today.

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Post by kingraf on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 11:55 am

They didn't. But even then, many Referrals have the 3rd umpire look at a few things. Being given out LBW, reviewing and then being given out caught behind isn't a foreign concept without prior. The DRS still has to have a margin for error for the umpire, always. So if you aren't out one way, they'll find one you are out. That's the system
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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

No one would have cared if this happened 9 out of 10 times- its just gutting for taylor..

He deserved the ton.

England deserved nothing as a team(well bar taylor and broad is getting better game on game)

If broad can get back to that consistancy of ball after ball and over after over. We have another world-class bowler that we can grantee on.

For jimmy to be super effective - he needs the conditions to be correct. Broad can blast teams out on Aus wickets


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Post by mystiroakey on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 12:05 pm

kingraf wrote:It's never in a million years going to happen like that though. Think it during the India-Australia series where there was an appeal for LBW given not out immediately by Aleem Dar, and then the ball looped up to backward of point or the slips and caught, and the fielding team basically appealed again and it was given. Can't remember the sides exactly, but it was Aleem Dar umpiring.

yes that happened in an aus v england game as well.

the team appealed against the umpires decision of lbw but he ended up being caught out and he was given out and i think thats fair play. However this is a totally different scenario as the original call wasn't out from the delivery.

Before DRS many umpires gave a player out and was never quite sure if it was caught or an LBW- but either way it was out from the delivery.

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Post by KP_fan on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 12:57 pm

India v Pak tomorrow

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Post by guildfordbat on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

Just watched a recording of most of England's game. I'm sure you'll understand me pressing fast forward once Mitch Marsh had his fivefer!

Very disappointing although not a massive surprise.

As I've posted before, Australia have such strength in depth. Interesting discussion on Sky as to whether a now fit Clarke should return for the next match. North and Willis both felt he should at the expense of Bailey. I sided with Butcher (honestly not 'cos of Surrey connections, I normally don't think much of his punditry) who was of the view that Australia could hardly have played better whilst Clarke's been absent and so he should bide his time a while longer until someone loses form or gets injured. To be fair to the Sky guys, none were totally sold on Watson but all considered that the option of him bowling 5 or 6 overs was sufficient to safeguard his place.

A lot of good Australian performances in this game. Just to flag one who hasn't (I think) been mentioned above - Haddin. Provided real momentum to the closing overs of his side's innings (in a way that England regularly fail to achieve) and a lovely tidy performance behind the stumps with a couple of tricky and important dismissals.

As for England, great credit to Taylor who deserved a ton. That not out on review / dead ball rule seems as if it could cause controversy and unfairness in more ways than one but dreadful that the umpires didn't know it.

Probably predictable that the perceived pressure of a huge score got to the rest of England's batsmen and played into Marsh's hands. Understandable to omit the hopelessly out of form Bopara and bring in Ballance but so typically England to do that at the very last minute!

Having said for a couple of years what a fine fielder Woakes is, I guess I should take some of the blame for that drop in the first over! Poor effort though and too much like it from England in the field.

As for the England bowling, too samey for too much of the time. If Australia weren't having a blitz, you always felt they were getting ready for one. I would like to try and mix things up more, particularly during those middle overs, by bringing in Tredwell. I view Ali as a very good sixth bowler but not quite as belonging in the first five bowlers for an ODI. Root's one over today only confirmed my worries about him being our sixth bowler.

As for the England captaincy, Morgan clearly has a lot to prove. However, that doesn't make Cook any more suitable than when he was sacked - rightly imo.

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Post by djkbrown2001 on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:33 pm

"Following Australia's 111-run win over England in the Group A ICC Cricket World Cup clash at Melbourne Cricket Ground on Saturday night, the Playing Control Team (PCT) met and reviewed the final ball of the game which resulted in James Anderson being given run out," an ICC statement said.

"Article 3.6a of Appendix 6 of the Decision Review System Playing Conditions states that the ball should have been deemed dead when the batsman (James Taylor) was given out LBW. No further runs or dismissals were possible.

"The PCT spoke to the England team management and acknowledges that the game ended incorrectly and that an error was made."

That was a shocking decision at the highest level. Reminds of the England referee in a world cup. He did not got a match after that.

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Post by kingraf on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 5:02 pm

Australia do bat a long team. I'm quietly hoping Farhaan Behardien finds a ball to accidentally walk over so we can squeeze in Albie Morkel, who has rediscovered his cricketing abilities.

To clarify. I dont think the umpire made a particularly bright call. It's just that what happened is the general standard of umpiring
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Post by msp83 on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 6:12 pm

India-Pak tomorrow. Hope its not yet another 300+ innings game....... Already 2 300+ totals and there is only so much that one can take.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 7:59 pm

Huge game... we are very proud to be hosting it. Such a buzz for this one.
I think we'll be seeing quite a few 300+ scores on mismatch games on smaller grounds. Even though Adelaide is one of the biggest (overall) the shorter squarer boundaries will suit both India and Pakistan. They made the ground slightly bigger (square) by realigning the new grandstand further away from the centre block... but only by about 5-10m I think.

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Post by KP_fan on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:06 pm

msp83 wrote:India-Pak tomorrow. Hope its not yet another 300+ innings game....... Already 2 300+ totals and there is only so much that one can take.

actually I have read this more than one place......two 300 + games in a day...

I would like to remind...Eng scored 200 and Lanka scored 240ish Smile
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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:15 pm

KP_fan wrote:
msp83 wrote:India-Pak tomorrow. Hope its not yet another 300+ innings game....... Already 2 300+ totals and there is only so much that one can take.

actually I have read this more than one place......two 300 + games in a day...

I would like to remind...Eng scored 200 and Lanka scored 240ish Smile

Are you nervous KP_f... or quietly confident?
Think India will get back on the rails today. Even though I have a historical respect for Pakistan... I just can't see them upsetting India today.
Must admit, I haven't seen much of their recent play but there shouldn't be too many surprises, should there?

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Post by msp83 on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:35 pm

If there is any side in world cricket that can smash any top sides in the world and then get smashed the next day against any mediocre side the next day, its Pakistan. You never know, you never can say....... On paper, I think India got the better side, but when was the last time they actually won something in Australia?

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Post by kingraf on Sat 14 Feb 2015, 8:39 pm

I believe you guys capably won a few coin tosses on this tour....
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 1:44 am

Superb start by Zimbabwe - SA 21/2 after 9 overs.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 1:54 am

Zim quite far ahead.......SA will catch up...and one feels will overcome zim at some point...
Lets see if they close out Zim in this inning or when they bowl?
orcan Zim continue running

very interesting to see them play inspired cricket
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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 2:21 am

FAF gone....strangled down the leg side.....just at SA was begining to break free
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 2:35 am

Kinda thought South Africa would assert their superiority after the early wobble.

83/4 after 20.2 overs. Interesting. Wonderful catch.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 2:35 am

an amazing catch by Ervine......to get ABDV......becoming a norm such catches these days.
that break thru and snub Zim just doesn't come for SA...... Zim pulls back.

if SA bat 50 overs , they will put a winning total
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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 2:50 am

the off spinner is an impressive one
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 4:48 am

Duminy and Miller saving the day for South Africa after the big guns failed. They finishing the innings at 339-4 in their 50 overs, 138 not out for Miller, 115 not out for Duminy, and after initial struggles, SA has put Zimbabwe in their place.
Impressive from the Zimbabwe lads in the first half of the innings though........

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 4:51 am

While in the big game of the day, India are send in by Pakistan, and are 71-1 after 15. Rohit Sharma out early, Dhawan and Kohli holding fort since then.
India have gone in with both Ashwin and Jadeja, and Shami, Umesh and Mohit Sharma in charge of the seam bowling department.
For Pakistan, Younus Khan is slated to open the innings.......

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Post by kingraf on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 5:00 am

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Post by kingraf on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 5:10 am

There are going to be some titanic scores in this world cup. 339 having been 80/4 in 20 overs... Getting ominously close to that stage where we call the bowling machines in.
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 5:50 am

Run out it looks like.......

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 5:55 am

They've had a few close moments while running but Pakistan couldn't take advantage till now. Shikhar Dhawan played a pretty good innings, after his struggles in Australia, this is a relief for the team management though they would be seriously disappointed that he couldn't convert into a big innings, particularly considering the way he got out.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:03 am

Interesting from India, Raina, and not Rahane in at 4.......

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:24 am

India not getting much momentum in the powerplay. In the 3rd powerplay over, they have managed only 1 boundary!. Still in front at this stage, but a couple of quick wickets, then Pakistan can really restrict them to a manageable total.
Don't forget with our club class bowling unit, the batting has to score at least 30 above par to have a chance.......

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:30 am

ind trying to extend assured batting and holding Rahane.....
300 if they do not reach .......would be disappointing
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:33 am

Pakistan bowling really well here, not giving away any easy boundary balls, forcing the Indians to think of taking some serious risk.......

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:35 am

Kohli seems to have lost the rhythm and is not able to move through the gears and the Indian innings kind of stagnating.......

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:39 am

Raina has to keep hitting and when he goes jadeja shud come.....kohli shud bat thru
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Post by KP_fan on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:52 am

now Raina in his comfort zone.......perfect made situation
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:55 am

Beemer from Irfan, not called!.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:57 am

Another beemer, and this time it was far too high not to be called!.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 6:58 am

It must have slipped.

5 overs... at 11?

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:00 am

Other game looking interesting. Zim seem pretty composed... going about their task.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:09 am

Excellent from Wahab Riyas, just 4 of the over. Has to be a massive achievement under these circumstances.......

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:11 am

A couple of big overs would be good right now.

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Post by kingraf on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:12 am

Zimbabwe playing really well. They're not gonna win, I don't think, but they've certainly laid a marker
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:12 am

Raina goes,, might make a difference of 20-25 runs in the end!.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:15 am

Here we go! Show us your helicopter, MS!

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Post by Pal Joey on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:21 am

Great bowling from Wahab. Another superb over. Nearly 155km/h... wow!

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:24 am

Well, Pakistan have been sensational in these last overs, the Indians not able to slog around easily. And with the lack of bowling quality, I am afraid this is not enough.
Getting to 300 looks like a struggle here!.

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Post by kingraf on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:24 am

Masakadza gone. Steyn, Morkel, and Philander are class operators, but Imran Tahir is the key for us in ODI's. Having a legitimate wicket taking threat bowling ten overs in the middle overs is so key to our plans and designs on winning this tournament
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Post by kingraf on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:26 am

Pakistan does have a knack for finding these diamonds. Must be the most remarkable sporting talent conveyor belt in the world
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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:32 am

So 300-7. Not a bad score in isolation, but on a flattish pitch, the additional cover score is not there for the bowlers, so they have to rise above their usual mediocrity to make a game out of this.
There will be pressures of the India-Pakistan game, and Pakistan's WC record against India might add to the pressure on the chasing batsmen, but its 50-50 at the end of the first innings.
And by the way, 4 games, and we've had 4 300+ totals! and not quite done yet!.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 15 Feb 2015, 7:39 am

Its been a refreshing performance from Zimbabwe. Its far too early to talk about the first upset of the world cup, but they have held the flag high for the marginalized.......

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