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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 22 Feb 2015, 3:59 pm

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Breaking News: Famous win for Wasps at Franklins Garden sees Saints fall off top spot for the first time this season while the battle for Champions Cup qualification intensifies with important wins for Saracens, Bath & Falcons
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 21 Mar 2015, 8:09 pm

Cracking day of rugby. So much for Steve Hansen's rugby dying a slow death. Team of the tournament for me:

1. McGrath
2. Guirado
3. Ross
4. AWJ
5. POC
6. POM
7. Warburton
8. Falatue
9. Youngs
10. Sexton
11. Bowe/Zebo
12. Henshaw
13. JJ
14. Huget
15. Hogg

2 & 8 the hardest to pick someone as there was no real stand outs for me

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 21 Mar 2015, 8:15 pm

What a weekend of rugby!!!! Cider time so will analyse tomorrow. Must have broken scoring records!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 21 Mar 2015, 8:36 pm

Tough to pick a tem of the 6 Nations, as opinion likely clouded aftervtodays games, and there are also a few positions without a standout player. Best players for each team in my opinion were;

England: BenYoungs, Jonathan Joseph.
France: Hard to call with all the changes.
Ireland: Paul O'Connell, Conor Murray
Italy: Sergio Parisse
Scotland: Jonny Gray, Stuart Hogg
Wales: Alun-Wyn Jones, Sam Warburton
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 22 Mar 2015, 2:49 am

hopefully this isn't seen as bigging up my own player but JJ has been different level for England. He was given his 2nd and possibly last chance and he took it in a quite sensational fashion.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 4:06 am

He was top draw Steve, he really flourished. JJ and Youngs were both bordering world class throughout this 6N.

I'd throw in Dusatoir for France Pete, he was great against us and the Italians and never had a bad game. The rest were a little up and down, Maestri had a strong tournement I thought.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:23 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Haha...never trust a Jock Bam!

Great day of rugby, team of the 6N?

1. Marler
2. Best
3. Cole
4. AWJ
5. POC
6. POM
7. Warburton
8. Parisse

9. Youngs
10. Sexton
11. Nowell
12. Roberts
13. JJ
14. Huget
15. Hogg


Decent side but nowell???

Watson yesterday missed about 8 tackles in first half and needs some work/

Cole has been average all tournament. A penalty machine and a very average scrummager. Wilson allows us to dominate scrums and has been missed badly.

Asides from that a pretty bang on side

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:25 am

I'd have Murray at 9 but Youngs enjoying a superb run probably his best in a white shirt

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:38 am

Guirado was excellent yesterday. Highest scoring game I have ever been to at twickenham

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:48 am

There was no real standout at TH I thought, Cole never got dominated and got on top a fair few time (Wales, Italy, Scotland). Similar with Marler who went pretty well in the scrum and well in the loose, who else was better?

I'm obviously a big fan of Youngs, he had a great 6N. Murray went well also but I think Youngs just shades it.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:54 am

Youngs was good yesterday but kicked poorly. Fords kicking out of hand was dreadful yesterday but ball in hand he is special

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:56 am

anonmattyt wrote:Youngs was good yesterday but kicked poorly. Fords kicking out of hand was dreadful yesterday but ball in hand he is special

Totally agree on Ford, he kicking was shocking. I lost count of the amount of times he got charged down or kicked straight into touch.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 9:58 am

Times team of toutnament
Marler
guirado
Mas
Lawes
Poca
Sob
Warbs
Heaslip
Murray
Sexton
Williams
Roberts
JJ
Bowe
Halfpenny

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:08 am

Mas only played 2 games Matt and was hardly great against us lol.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:22 am

That is Lawrence Dallaglios 15 of tournament. I would not have mas in there due to him playing 2 games. He has the better of Marler and was outstanding last week. You only get 50 minutes from him though. Personally would have Ross in my team of tournament

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:28 am

Bizarre team. Not to pick on your players but Mas, Lawes and Heaslip should be nowhere near a team of the 6N due to not playing enough.

It seems like Lol has just watched the the last round of games.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:32 am

Was odd with Ford's kicking game yesterday, he's been best tactical kicker in the AP for the last 2 seasons - think he's realising that you don't get as much time in international rugby and at the same time he hasn't got another kicking outlet outside him. On the upside his place kicking was brilliant.

Youngs was unreal yesterday, best performance I have seen from a no9 in years - bizarre decision by Lancaster to sub him off as he looked the guy to score us tries.

Haskell and Burrell will be very lucky to keep their starting places after the last few performances!

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 10:36 am

Think Heaslip is in on yesterday's performance but
Agree he played 3 games so not really had a tournament

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:00 am

Good news from Wasps this morning is that Launchbury goes into full training next week. Getting him back for England would be massive.

That hit by Lawes yesterday, Plisson will be feeling that for the next month.

Out of interest would people want to keep Watson in the starting lineup on the wing?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:02 am

I'd keep the back 3 as it is, it's going quite well as a unit and I can't think of many better players about at the minute.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:06 am

Watson got humiliated yesterday and needs to go away and work on his defence.

I would have may over him any day of the week.
I think long term Watson is the real deal however he has missed tackles in every game.

One on one misses are deadly for a winger

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:13 am

I prefer Watson at full back. There is no standout wing for England, all have their strengths and weaknesses. It's an area where I think Lancaster can pick on form from the group he's identified.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:16 am

I'd have May over him as well, think Watson is a fullback trying to play wing - could see that positionally and most telling French attacks were down his side. He will be world class, but think May's been crapped on a bit by the coaching staff.

Anyone see Du Plessis getting a red at the weekend for kicking an opponent in the face? If that was Hartley we'd be looking at a 6 month ban. Could be out for a little while there.


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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:19 am

Would you like to see Wade given a go Pete?

Nowell was good yesterday, what he lacks in out and out pace he makes up for in his reading of a game, really intelligent player. Suits Lancaster's style as well.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:26 am

May is too thick for Int rugby, he's had his chance. I'd let him go away and work on his game.

Watson missed 3 tackles, as did Hartley, Ford & Vuinipola. It was that type of game though where mistakes are going to be made.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:30 am

He got slaughtered by nakataci they targeted him and got joy. He is a
Talent but very raw.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:40 am

I don't think he got slaughtered at all. He slipped off the odd tackle as did half the team.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:56 am

Pooly for me it isn't so much about missing the tackles, like you say it was bound to happen in an open game. For me was more about positioning, decision making of when to commit and general reading of the game.

We've got to find ways of getting him the ball, think it is a little bit of a curse for our right wingers - Ashton's excellent at tracking at getting the ball from there but we just don't work the ball out that way as much as we could do - Watson's such a threat ball in hand.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 11:58 am

I really like Watson, he has a rugby brain which May doesn't. Nowell has really nailed the shirt too.

If Ford could cut out his brain farts and loose kicking we're a 12 away from a very good backline.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 1:53 pm

dammit_chris wrote:I'd have May over him as well, think Watson is a fullback trying to play wing - could see that positionally and most telling French attacks were down his side. He will be world class, but think May's been crapped on a bit by the coaching staff.

Anyone see Du Plessis getting a red at the weekend for kicking an opponent in the face? If that was Hartley we'd be looking at a 6 month ban. Could be out for a little while there.


I think Watson is an fb also. They made so much yardage down his channel and identified him as a weak link.

That Chiefs vs sharks game had 3 red cards

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 2:16 pm

I'm not sure Watson is good enough in the air to be a FB. Watson & Nowell are clearly our best wing options till Yarde gets back to form, let's give them a run.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 2:27 pm

If may had let his opposite number make as many yards as Watson did yesterday people would be slagging him off. Watching the game live you could see his positioning was very ropey. It's due to Inexperience so it will come. It's his first proper season of senior rugby to be fair. I would have had him 4/5 out of 10 yesterday. Just about to watch the match on TV now.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 2:41 pm

He wasn't amazing but a 6 or so would be fair imo.

He's got a rugby brain though which May hasn't, I think his one up tackling is also better and he certainly runs better. Past gas May has little else, he's been found out.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 5:01 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:I prefer Watson at full back.  There is no standout wing for England,  all have their strengths and weaknesses.   It's an area where I think Lancaster can pick on form from the group he's identified.


Very true. I was hoping Burrell would nail the 12 spot but unfortunately he does not seem to have it. The 12 debate will rumble on and on

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 5:05 pm

Just seen that biz mark red. That's a long ban coming

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:05 pm

12 is a huge issue. Burrell has some good attributes, carries well and picks good lines, but beyond that his game awareness is shocking and he looks frightened to throw a pass. Lancaster is loyal though and I can see him keeping the jersey. I'm really interested to see what we do about Manu in the summer. JJ was player of the tournament for me, and has to stay in the 13 jersey. In the absence of an out and out 12 who is performing to the required level, I wonder about 12. Tuilagi 13. Joseph going forward. Manu would need to improve on is passing though, in the same manner Ma'a Nonu has done.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:19 pm

Burrell has failed to step up, his handling has been his major problem and he actually looked better at 13.

Tuilagi has a poor passing game and doesn't help Ford out with distribution/kicking, in fact he's worse than Burrell. Who else is there though? At least with Tuilagi we'll have a strong carrying option in midfield.

Only other realistic options are Farrell and Slade.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:32 pm

Depends on what you want really I guess. Manu will get us over the gainline, and if we get it out quickly JJ will undoubtedly have space to work in and could be lethal. If you want the 2nd 5/8ths type playmaker then i guess it's Farrell or Slade, but neither play 12 regularly, and Farrell is regularly criticised for not being creative, and lacks any sort of running game.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:35 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Would you like to see Wade given a go Pete?

Not particularly. As I said, if you list all the possible England wingers, there are positives and negatives for all. Lancaster has a group that he is using/has used recently (May, Nowell, Yarde, Watson, Ashton) and within that I would simply go with the form players at the time. If Wade is part of his thinking then by all means include him in the group, but I'm by no means crying out for him to play.
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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:36 pm

It really is a conundrum. JJ has been a revation. He was superb again yesterday and has so much time on the ball. Great to watch. I keep coming back to Tuilagi 12 but like pooly agree it does not help ford in anyway. That said I think it is maybe the best solution.

One thing I would like to see is us use brown more as an option for clearing our lines. Having the option of ford and brown to
Clear and make the opposition guess would help.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:38 pm

It's a tough one.

Ford has really struggled with no option outside him. He got turned over 4 times against France, charged down 2/3 times and numerous poor kicks. Maybe Ford needs a kicking option outside him? Better sides would punish us.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:38 pm

Nakataci was a revelation yesterday. Was really powerful and ran it back with menace. He is massive. Did not realise he was that big

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:39 pm

Both Youngs and ford were poor out of hand. They kicked maybe 10-15 metres too long each time

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:40 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Nakataci was a revelation yesterday. Was really powerful and ran it back with menace. He is massive. Did not realise he was that big

Glad I picked him up on the cheap on here.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:40 pm

We all seem to be presuming that Ford is now 1st choice 10. I wonder if that is how Lancaster sees it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:43 pm

I imagine we'll go Ford with Farrell on the bench. It's obvious he doesn't fancy Cipriani.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:50 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:We all seem to be presuming that Ford is now 1st choice 10.  I wonder if that is how Lancaster sees it.

Good point but you would have to have ford as first
Choice for what he
Offers.

I think yesterday highlighted how mixed up our bench is. He hauled off Watson ( I
Am assuming due to performance and not
Injury? ) and had to bring on Cips in an unfamiliar position. If we had a back 3 option from bench I think it would make more sense personally

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 22 Mar 2015, 6:59 pm

Major issue is that Cipriani as the back up 10 doesn't cover the centres. If Slade had been bench 10 you can have a back three option there as well.
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Post by Guest Sun 22 Mar 2015, 7:03 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Major issue is that Cipriani as the back up 10 doesn't cover the centres.  If Slade had been bench 10 you can have a back three option there as well.


For me this ideal championship to blood slade as he lends the bench better balance

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 7:33 pm

Couldn't understand why Slade wasn't given a chance on the bench during the 6Nations - has all the skill sets to cover a lot of positions and would free up the option of getting an attacking player on the bench.

Our bench option in the backs are so poor, whole mix is wrong and we use it very badly - Wigglesworth on for Youngs was a strange decision, having 2 players who can pretty much only cover 10/12 well is also a poor choice.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Mar 2015, 7:41 pm

With the kicking comments I'd also say that an issue with the kicking game is that we have a really poor kick chase game. May is by far our best kick chaser and against Wales we had a brilliant kicking game, but that is because we had someone challenging the kicks.

Ford's firmly established himself as England's first choice in my view, big issue was around his place kicking but 9/10 yesterday, with quite a few from the touchline. We score a lot more tries and his defence has been pretty solid. Farrell's a very solid option but prefer what Ford brings - needs to sort out his charge down kicks though. Trouble is defences know he's the only back in midfield who kicks so they can throw players at him to charge down the kick.

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