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Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 10:50 am

Home teams to be named by midnight on Tuesday
Away teams to be named by midnight on Wednesday
Tactics to be provided by midnight on Thursday
Predictions by 22:00 hours on Sunday



London Wasps v London Irish
Location - Ricoh Arena
Sunny Intervals, 9 Degrees, 12mph WNW Winds


London Wasps
Manager: Ozzy3213    
                
01. Ben Moon09. Aaron Smith
02. Bismarck Du Plessis10. Henry Slade
03. Fraser Balmain
04. Romain Millo-Chluski11. Henry Speight
05. Ruan Botha12. Paul Jordaan
06. Fulgence Ouedraogo13. JJ Engelbrecht
07. Steffon Armitage14. Tim Nanai-Willians
08. Jerome Kaino15. Delon Armitage
Reps: 16. Harry Thacker, 17. Paul James, 18. Ben Alexander, 19. Rynhardt Elstadt, 20. Hayden Thompson-Stringer, 21. Mitchell Drummond, 22. Shane Geraghty, 23. Robbie Freuan.

Basic Game Plan
In good conditions we will be looking to play a possession based game, going through the phases and continually shifting the point of attack.  When deep in our half we won't take chances with offloading, but will make ground carrying close to the ruck and recycling quickly, or using the boots of Slade and Armitage to take us up the field.

In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence.  Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle.  Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us.  Smith will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.


London Irish
Manager – Prop

01. Rhodri Jones09. Neil De Kock
02. Ken Owens10. Jules Plisson
03. Will Collier
04. Stuart Hooper11. Adam Thompstone
05. Tom Savage12. Luke McAlister
06. David Sisi13. Cory Allen
07. Scott Higginbotham14. Sergeal Petersen
08. Jackson Wray15. Brice Dulin
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16. Marc Jones 17. Tom Court 18. Tomas Ramirez 19. Jacques Potgeiter 20. Ben Morgan 21. Jack Moates 22. Sam Olver 23. Conrad Smith

*Structured game with De Kock, Plisson, McAlister and Dulin able to put us deep in the right positions and target lineout.
*Strong runners in the pack looking to run 2 wide carries then release the backs.
*Backrow looking to control the breakdown with Wray's carrying form bringing the go-forward.
*Exciting back 3 with tries aplenty when we see gaps  and overlaps to go wide.
*Strong impact bench especially with Potgeiter, Morgan and Smith coming on to attack tired defences.





Harlequins v Gloucester
Location - Twickenham Stoop
Sunny Intervals, 10 Degrees, 11mph WNW Winds


Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Steven Kitchoff09. Karl Dickson
02. Schalk Brits (c)10. Quade Cooper
03. John Afoa
04. Pieter Steph Du Toit11. Joe Tomane
05. Charlie Matthews12. Juan Martin Hernandez
06. Jamie Gibson13. Jan Serfontein
07. Mamuka Gorgodze14. Frank Halai
08. Nick Easter15. Colin Slade (k)
Subs:
16. Rob Buchanan 17. Gurthro Steenkamp 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Jack Clifford 21. Eric Escande 22. Ihaia West 23. Alex Lewington


Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt

01. Wood09. Dan Robson
02. LCD10. Handre Pollard
03. Ousthuizen
04. Stooke11. Gear
05. Dominick Bird12. Ryan Crotty
06. Moriarty13. Juan De Jongh
07. Salvi14. Charlie Walker
08. Palu15. Sam Davies
Subs:
16 Beast 17 Joe Grey 18 Juan Figallo 19 Richie Gray 20 Lewis Ludlow 21 TJ Perenara 22 Dan Carter 23 Israel Dagg



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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 12:52 pm

Couple of weeks off, nice one.

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Guest on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 1:15 pm

Had no idea I was in the semi

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 1:48 pm

Tough balancing act with this one. League and Heino the priorities so will be rotating and leaving out some big players, but hate losing so still want to stick out a strong side!
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 5:06 pm

I won't be doing tactics if you agree Matt

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Post by Guest on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 5:26 pm

Absolutely Steve. Works for me. Will edit when back home later in week

 Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt

01. Wood09. Dan Robson
02. LCD10. Handre Pollard
03. Ousthuizen
04. Stooke11. Gear
05. Dominick Bird12. Ryan Crotty
06. Moriarty13. Juan De Jongh
07. Salvi14. Charlie Walker
08. Palu15. Sam Davies
Subs:
16 Beast 17 Joe Grey 18 Juan Figallo 19 Richie Gray 20 Lewis Ludlow 21 TJ Perenara 22 Dan Carter 23 Israel Dagg


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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 09 Mar 2015, 8:48 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Steven Kitchoff09. Karl Dickson
02. Schalk Brits (c)10. Quade Cooper
03. John Afoa
04. Pieter Steph Du Toit11. Joe Tomane
05. Charlie Matthews12. Juan Martin Hernandez
06. Jamie Gibson13. Jan Serfontein
07. Mamuka Gorgodze14. Frank Halai
08. Nick Easter15. Colin Slade (k)
Subs:

16. Rob Buchanan 17. Gurthro Steenkamp 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Bakkies Botha 20. Jack Clifford 21. Eric Escande 22. Ihaia West 23. Alex Lewington


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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by prop_lyd on Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:30 am

Happy to go without tactics or a 5 bullet point tactics Ozzy? Will get team in tonight hopefully!!
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 10 Mar 2015, 11:14 am

Minimal or no tactics is fine by me mate. Will get my team in when I'm home this evening.
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Post by prop_lyd on Tue 10 Mar 2015, 6:29 pm

London Irish
Manager – Prop

01. Rhodri Jones09. Neil De Kock
02. Ken Owens10. Jules Plisson
03. Will Collier
04. Stuart Hooper11. Adam Thompstone
05. Tom Savage12. Luke McAlister
06. David Sisi13. Cory Allen
07. Scott Higginbotham14. Sergeal Petersen
08. Jackson Wray15. Brice Dulin
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16. Marc Jones 17. Tom Court 18. Tomas Ramirez 19. Jacques Potgeiter 20. Ben Morgan 21. Jack Moates 22. Sam Olver 23. Conrad Smith

*Structured game with De Kock, Plisson, McAlister and Dulin able to put us deep in the right positions and target lineout.
*Strong runners in the pack looking to run 2 wide carries then release the backs.
*Backrow looking to control the breakdown with Wray's carrying form bringing the go-forward.
*Exciting back 3 with tries aplenty when we see gaps and overlaps to go wide.
*Strong impact bench especially with Potgeiter, Morgan and Smith coming on to attack tired defences.


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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 10 Mar 2015, 10:19 pm

London Wasps
Manager: Ozzy3213                      
01. Ben Moon09. Aaron Smith
02. Bismarck Du Plessis10. Henry Slade
03. Fraser Balmain
04. Romain Millo-Chluski11. Henry Speight
05. Ruan Botha12. Paul Jordaan
06. Fulgence Ouedraogo13. JJ Engelbrecht
07. Steffon Armitage14. Tim Nanai-Willians
08. Jerome Kaino15. Delon Armitage

Reps: 16. Harry Thacker, 17. Paul James, 18. Ben Alexander, 19. Rynhardt Elstadt, 20. Hayden Thompson-Stringer, 21. Mitchell Drummond, 22. Shane Geraghty, 23. Robbie Freuan.

Basic Game Plan
In good conditions we will be looking to play a possession based game, going through the phases and continually shifting the point of attack.  When deep in our half we won't take chances with offloading, but will make ground carrying close to the ruck and recycling quickly, or using the boots of Slade and Armitage to take us up the field.

In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence.  Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle.  Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us.  Smith will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.


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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Guest on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 7:28 am

Steve had to edit for rob Evans being called up

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 9:01 am

PREDICTIONS OPEN

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by BamBam on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 11:02 am

Wasps 30 - 29 Irish

Wasps have gone with a strong side, plenty of quality down the spine of the team with the likes of BDP, Kaino, Armitage and Smith. I reckon Irish could go well at the set piece, especially the lineout with plenty of options. Irish props could get a nudge on too IMO. Really good battle up front, but the extra international class for Wasps will tell in the second half around the park. The backs are dangerous on both sides, and some real form players will score tries. Home advantage just too much for Irish to overcome

Harlequins 29-27 Gloucester

Kitchoff has been in great form, and will be a good battle against Ouisthuizen, but Wood stands out as the weakest scrummager giving Quins the edge. Plenty of lineout options will give Quins an advantage here, and that platform really sets them up. Big pack battle around the park with plenty from both front 5s. Very even in the outside backs, but Glos have some big impact off the bench. Tough one to call but I'll go with home advantage and give this to Quins


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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by prop_lyd on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 11:34 am

This isn't being posted to influence votes but BBC and Planet Rugby have it as Scott Baldwin starting and Hibbard on the bench for Wales so Owens isn't involved.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by BamBam on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 12:18 pm

I hadn't checked prop, I was just going by this that I read a couple of days ago

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12040/9751605/hooker-ken-owens-joins-wales-squad-ahead-of-ireland-game

I'll redo

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by prop_lyd on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 12:28 pm

No worries fella Ok!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 4:54 pm

Wasps 23-22 Irish

Good scrum advantage for Irish with both props better than their counterparts. BdP sures up things a little but Wasps have the edge in the back 5 to counter. Wasps stronger at halfback and in the back 3 but centres pretty even. Good impact from both sides from the bench and a close contest, but Wasps have a bit more quality out.

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Post by Guest on Sat 14 Mar 2015, 12:03 am

Wasps 34-27 Irish

Tough game. Irish maybe shade front row. BDP having mare been murdered by Strauss and Ntebeni in recent weeks. Wondering if he will ever hit form of old?

Irish experience and nous second row but levelled by wasps. Botha a great prospect although prob not an int. much like hooper.

Where wasps dominate is backrow. Nous breakdown and more power. With it 50/50 In front 5 this is where game is won.

Halfbacks 1/1 no slade fan at 10 as he has not had enough game time there. Fine prospect though and potentially England's 12 solutions. Centres to wasps but not sure of the combo as a unit.

Back 3 even Peterson some prospect and Dulin electric. No speight fan at int level as defence and kicking so poor but in this with ball in hand against thompstone or Peterson he will score. Delon quality but prone to moments of stupidity.

Wasps backrow win it


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Post by prop_lyd on Sat 14 Mar 2015, 12:40 pm

Quins 28-26 Glos
Can see Quins getting an edge in the set piece. Bit more in their back row but Moriarty in great form at the moment. Pretty even in the outside backs and two good benches on show but think Glos could get back in it with their bench but just not enough. Good game here.
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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 10:00 am

Wasps 30 - 28 London Irish
Wasps have got that smattering of world class players in key positions and can see them getting an advantage at the breakdown. The front five battle very even, with Irish being able to bring on Morgan and Smith it allows Irish to pull back in final 20 minutes.

Harlequins 35 - 33 Gloucester
Tough game to call, home advantage plays its part but see Quins getting an advantage in the set piece, while Salvi could well dominate the breakdown battle for the away side. Just that bit more to Quins front five. Lot more from the Gloucester bench in terms of backs to change the game, but the home side just hangs on in a high scoring game.

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 11:13 am

Harlequins 29 Gloucester 28
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Post by Guest on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 4:03 pm

Can you change my wasps score to 34-27 plisson Is not available and playing for france And makes a big difference

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 4:58 pm

Wasps 23 - 22 Irish

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by CJB on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 6:38 pm

Wasps 29-25 Irish
Quins 30-28 Gloucester

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 15 Mar 2015, 8:13 pm

Wasps 32-24 London Irish
Not much of a set piece edge but Wasps can get on top at the breakdown and give the backs an easy ride overall against an Irish side missing plison

Harlequins 26-23 Gloucester
Backs fairly even but Quins get on top through the front 5. Glaws bench bring it back late on but can't finish the job away from home

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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Semi Finals

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 16 Mar 2015, 11:37 am

RESULTS:

London Wasps 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
London Irish 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)

Harlequins 33 (T:4 C:2 P:3)
Gloucester 28 (T:3 C:2 P:3)

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Full: Matt, Prop, Bam, Chris, SJE & Pooly
Score: CJB, Steve & Pete
Fined: Fluxy, Luke & CJ

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