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2015 World Cup - Finals

Post by Stella on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 9:34 am

March

Semi-finals

24 Semi-final 1, South Africa v New Zealand, Auckland (01:00 GMT)

26 Semi-final 2, India v Australia, Sydney (03:30 GMT)

Final

29 Final, New Zealand v Australia, Melbourne (05:30 BST)


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Having no clear favourites for the semi's makes for an intriguing couple of games.
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Post by kingraf on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 10:57 am

I'm at that stage of the tournament where I could care less about competitive matches and the spectacle. If we have to thrash every single team we play... and then bowl the most negative line in history... so be it. It's all about the W
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Post by Stella on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 11:04 am

kingraf wrote:I'm at that stage of the tournament where I could care less about competitive matches and the spectacle. If we have to thrash every single team we play... and then bowl the most negative line in history... so be it. It's all about the W

I can't call tomorrow's game. Nervous, King?
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Post by kingraf on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 11:34 am

Incredibly so. We can win, and we won our ODI last series in New Zealand 2-0. In fact I think we've won our last five series in New Zealand, across all formats. Man for man I think we're a better team, and of that team, I'd really only want Trent Boult... and maybe Corey Anderson. It's a knockout match however, and they have enough matchwinners to take it away very quickly. Quietly hoping for a win. Quietly confident of a win. But definitely aware of the fact that defeat is a possibility which looms large.

The big thing, is how will the Kiwis respond to a home game with a final on the line. do they rise to it, or be crushed by it?
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Post by msp83 on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 2:13 pm

ebop wrote:msp83, correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall England only managed 123 at the 'same' ground that has such sub-standard boundaries. Eden Park with its even more substandard boundaries threw up one of the lowest scoring thrillers of the tournament.
Doesn't disprove anything I wrote earlier, for the England game the NZ opening bowlers were swinging the ball and it was England afterall!. As for the other game, again there was life for the bowlers and Boult and Starc in particular, were quite good making the best of it....... But for the QF, there was not much for the bowlers, and even the NZ bowling lineup, one of the best in the world at present, went at over 8 an over for 30 overs....... The combination of such stupid boundaries with a lifeless track, just horrendous....... Had someone like a McCullum or a Gayle managed to stay on for say 40 overs, we would have had the first ODI triple ton....... And AB, Mr Freaking Genius can score the most effortless 400+....... Not good for the game though, and in that context, I can understand what Graeme Swann said.......
LD, great batsmen v great bowlers is one thing, but if the likes of Guptill are scoring ODI double tons effortlessly, then there indeed is a problem.......

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Post by LondonTiger on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 3:54 pm

msp83 wrote:Doesn't disprove anything I wrote earlier, for the England game the NZ opening bowlers were swinging the ball and it was England afterall!.

Indeed England are pretty rubbish. Any tier one team losing to this current ODI side should hang their heads in shame. Not many teams in that group admittedly.



As to Guptill, he is a very good player able to build an innings. However if you were equally critical of the conditions when Rohit Sharma got his 250+ - well then I will forgive the disrespect you have shown to a very good cricketer.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 4:06 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
msp83 wrote:Doesn't disprove anything I wrote earlier, for the England game the NZ opening bowlers were swinging the ball and it was England afterall!.

Indeed England are pretty rubbish. Any tier one team losing to this current ODI side should hang their heads in shame. Not many teams in that group admittedly.



As to Guptill, he is a very good player able to build an innings. However if you were equally critical of the conditions when Rohit Sharma got his 250+ - well then I will forgive the disrespect you have shown to a very good cricketer.

Those who are regular here, should know what my views are on Sharma!!!
Both as a player in general, and even on that innings....... Would rate his WC hundred against Bangladesh way above those 2 double tons and his most other innings.......
I stopped strictly following ODI games in India after that 264 game, now mostly go through cricinfo scorecards and match reports or a few overs in between.......

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Post by kingraf on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 5:27 pm

Yep. Msp has been rather scathing at times of Sharma. I also agree with him. Martin Guptill should not be scoring double hundreds in fifty overs. High five to him for getting it, but if ever there was a more scathing indictment of the current conditions... well that and Jason Holder being eight overs for 40 runs against de Villiers, and ended up ten overs for 104.
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Post by aucklandlaurie on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 6:00 pm


Rain...

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Post by kingraf on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 6:09 pm

How bad?
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Post by ShahenshahG on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 6:10 pm

Like Katrina

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Post by aucklandlaurie on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 6:16 pm


Had a heavy shower go through about half an hour ago, not raining at the moment, low cover grey skies, Im about 10 K away from Eden Park as the crow flies.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 8:36 pm

kingraf wrote:Rather strange way of thinking Kpf. During the quarters you said Windies beating NZ would make a mockery of the format. Now that there are no upsets... it's made a mockery of the format
Laugh
it would have been a mockery
now it is downgraded to " Not competitive" Very Happy Shocked
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Post by KP_fan on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 8:44 pm

msp83 wrote: but if the likes of Guptill are scoring ODI double tons effortlessly, then there indeed is a problem.......
msp...runs scored against WI, BD, Zim, Scot, IRE in ODIs don't count Smile
runs scored against WI, BD, Zim, Ind in tests don't count Smile
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Post by Gooseberry on Mon 23 Mar 2015, 10:49 pm

To be fair they couldve saved everyone a lot of time effort and money, especially England, by just playing these last 3 games. The right teams are in the semi finals at least, but its been painfully tedious at times getting here. Even the "excitement" of Ireland not qualifying because they arent good enough was a side show to the actual battle for the cup, which realistically was only ever going to be won by one of these 4.

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Post by kingraf on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 3:56 am

Of course it would rain as we make the charge. Beginning to think we're genuinely cursed at this world cup thing
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Post by Pal Joey on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 6:06 am

Don't worry, raf. It's not over yet!

Great match this, it's gonna be a tough chase for the black caps.
Miller is owning Southee these last few overs. Great controlled slogging.

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Post by Duty281 on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 6:47 am

Brutal stuff from McCullum!

Do feel sympathy for South Africa, though, in having their momentum scuppered by the weather.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:04 am

Excellent knock from McCullum has given the kiwis a great chance - although you feel Taylor will need to bat deep to hold the innings together
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Post by kingraf on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:10 am

It's gonna be Close!
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Post by KP_fan on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:19 am

well the rain curtailment did not help SA...because the D/L adjustments do not factor for ABDV and Miller's accelerations at the end.

now looking at the score card......161-4 NZ in 24 overs........I have a feeling they will go down.......fighting, but go down nevertheless.
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Post by KP_fan on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:24 am

from NZ persepctive Anderson has to play the inning of his life with Elliot, Ronchi, Vettori having to play the support roles of their life....if they have to be a first time finalist finally Rolling Eyes
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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:30 am

Good match despite the rain.

NZ on course to run it down as far as scoring rates go ; but I think they need these two to bat a fair proportion of the overs. Not sure I trust their later order. SA will still feel a wicket puts them back in it...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:38 am

Anderson is the big wicket now
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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:41 am

Excellent match so far. Glad I am nuetral for this one!

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:54 am

Blimey ! I've heard of dropping the World Cup but that run out going begging may have the same effect...can't think of a concise term for it though.

Four over power play now and I reckon this will decide the game one way or the other...

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 8:54 am

Getting toight for sure.

Was disappointed to see Taylor run someone out 'again' but hey. With Anderson, Elliot and Ronchi we still have a small chance. But it's SAs to lose from here.
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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:00 am

ebop wrote:Getting toight for sure.

Was disappointed to see Taylor run someone out 'again' but hey. With Anderson, Elliot and Ronchi we still have a small chance. But it's SAs to lose from here.

NZ clear favourites at the moment I would say! Nice try at reverse psychology though Very Happy

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:03 am

Haha, nah mate, it honestly feels like SA have the momentum here. 1-2 wickets more and we're done.
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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:04 am

ebop wrote:Haha, nah mate, it honestly feels like SA have the momentum here. 1-2 wickets more and we're done.

Well I agree with the latter part, but you have two players in and a fifth bowler that can be targetted. 9 an over is manageable in the last 10 overs these days. Going to be a good finish anyway!

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:05 am

pendulum has swung NZ's way now......bad fluffed R.O by ABDV of all people .
that would be the choke moment if SA are to lose Smile
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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:12 am

Run rate got up close to nine there ...but that latest over brought it back.
Really appears NZ's game to lose from here : sure a quick two wickets might change that ; but they will have to come soon.
Tahir now and he is surely the best chance of a breakthrough...

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Post by guildfordbat on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:12 am

Very good game. So much depending upon Imran Tahir's last 2 overs ....

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:15 am

Yeah, that was a massive let off KP. The pendulum is damn near hovering in the middle and twitching after every ball. NZ hate spin with a passion, this is a big moment with Tahir on. Doing alright so far, come on boys!
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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:18 am

guildfordbat wrote:Very good game. So much depending upon Imran Tahir's last 2 overs ....

Well his first one was a bit of a car crash! AB on now!

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:18 am

Fifty each and these two have played splendidly clap

Five from Steyn Morkel and Tahir and I guess AB is bowling the other two...

Under eight per over now. But they might get nervous as The Prize gets closer ?

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:27 am

Excellent over from Morkel and he gets the break ! Anderson holes out ...think the ball hit the wire on the way though ?

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:28 am

...gone anyway. Don't think it made any difference the fielder was always getting under that.

Chance for SA ....pressure on the new man Ronchi

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:29 am

That was odd and seriously clutching at straws. Ok, we'll know in 10 minutes how it's going to end.
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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:33 am

No more de Villiers...Steyn 2 plus Morkel and Tahir and nine per over...

Should be NZ ...

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:34 am

Yup, our goose is cooked.
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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:38 am

Ronchi gone and that makes it tricky...

I'd send Southee in to have a swing.

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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:40 am

ebop wrote:Yup, our goose is cooked.

Still a chance. If you can somehow hit a couple of sixes, that would probably result in getting over the line

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:41 am

Another run out missed ! this is close !

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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:44 am

VTR wrote:
ebop wrote:Yup, our goose is cooked.

Still a chance. If you can somehow hit a couple of sixes, that would probably result in getting over the line

Yes. Going to need a six or two now...23 off two...

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Post by VTR on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:48 am

NZ only need a tie to go through, this is so close!

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:49 am

Oh no, there's been some chances!
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Post by Fernando on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:49 am

Duminy collides with the fielder to make them drop an easy catch

NZ need 12 from 6

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Post by ebop on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:50 am

Here we go
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Post by alfie on Tue 24 Mar 2015, 9:51 am

All up to Elliott ...and Steyn

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