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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 02 Apr 2015, 8:54 pm

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Clegg non existent.....Cam and Mili going through the motions....Farage chucking grenades and misfiring.....Little feisty Nicola Sturgeon stealing the show.....What a fighter..

Think I'm falling in love.....Shorter version of my Mrs....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 3:59 pm

Cameron wanted the greens because it's disgruntled labour voters second port of call !!

Labour are doing well in the marginals where there isn't a green candidate and struggling in the ones where there is a candidate..

Expect Cameron to be in Downing street after the election but think this whole debates stuff has been a farce......and not good for democracy....

Should either be set rules like back home where there is three debates encompassing all the relevant issues ...........

Or just don't have them at all...

Don't pick the format that is best for you....

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Post by GSC on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 4:52 pm

To be honest. I don't see the need for them
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 5:21 pm

Then we should get rid............

They shouldn't be for the party of power to decide which format suits them best..

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Post by GSC on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:31 pm

Miliband didn't come off well in his live lounge appearance either. Though it was far less hostile than Camerons
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Post by JDizzle on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:40 pm

GSC wrote:Miliband didn't come off well in his live lounge appearance either. Though it was far less hostile than Camerons

Didn't hear Cameron's but the bloke doing it came off as a bit of a dick to me.

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Post by GSC on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:57 pm

Yeah, hes even more of a dick to Cameron. Tried to bet him 1000 quid he wouldn't get a majority, made no attempt to control the flow of questions.
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Post by GSC on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:59 pm

Its Chris Smith btw. It was fun to hear both challenged by someone with facts, rather than some of the audience, some of whom were a bit pointless, but he overstepped the mark.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:17 pm

GSC wrote:Miliband didn't come off well in his live lounge appearance either. Though it was far less hostile than Camerons

Both Tory and Labour leaders lack star quality..................The most impressive out of all is Sturgeon..

I think as the polls show 90% of the public have made up their minds..........

It's just the 10% of waverers that will call it.

i think the Cons will get close..........to the magic number and probably hold a minority.

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Post by GSC on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:24 pm

Tbh Sturgeon doesn't really have star quality personally, she's riding the wave Salmond created. Cameron has oodles more credibility as a PM than Miliband.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 10:15 pm

I think Osbourne is PM and Cameron is his acceptably faced puppet..

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Post by GSC on Sat 25 Apr 2015, 12:04 am

That's how I view the Salmond and Sturgeon relationship to be honest
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 9:12 pm

UKIP up to 18%; Farage nine points ahead.

I know how you love your polls, Truss. Wink

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 10:10 pm

Duty281 wrote:UKIP up to 18%; Farage nine points ahead.

I know how you love your polls, Truss. Wink

There is more than one poll............

Tories are up in 3....Labour are up in another three.......

My guess is the Tory ones are more believable......

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 9:44 am

Hate Sturgeon, but think she's arguably have been the most impressive operator of the bunch.

That said, I have been (un)pleasantly surprised by Milliband, hasn't been as much of a train wreck as I'd been expecting.

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Post by Hero on Fri 08 May 2015, 1:16 pm

super_realist wrote:
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super_realist wrote:Not a chance Truss. To think they could increase their seats by 500% is a laughable proposition.

Not with  20/27 point poll leads.............

Have you seen the disparity in the polls for the leaders Truss from last night, and the polls for the Scottish Independence and how inaccurate they were? Trouble with polls is that they only tell you about the opinions of the 1000 people that were polled, it doesn't tell you their demographic, where they live, or where the polling company got their contact details, therefore taking the results of a few hastily gathered polls as the voice of entire nation would be pretty foolish. For example if I poll 1000 people at a football match on their gender, and then take that as representative of the entire nation, I'm not likely to get an accurate figure of what is actually the reality.

I don't doubt that the SNP might well improve their seat number, although if anyone suggested 40-50, they're utterly mad, perhaps to around 14-16 or so, however there are an awful lot of very safe seats, and  lot of other seats where the SNP aren't even in the top two, whilst there are huge swathes of Scotland where the SNP are loathed. The swing required would be colossal, and given that 55% according to the referendum votes of Scotland doesn't favour their number one objective, getting anywhere close to the projected number of seats seems totally unrealistic.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Fri 08 May 2015, 2:33 pm

super_realist wrote:
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super_realist wrote:Not a chance Truss. To think they could increase their seats by 500% is a laughable proposition.

Not with  20/27 point poll leads.............

Have you seen the disparity in the polls for the leaders Truss from last night, and the polls for the Scottish Independence and how inaccurate they were? Trouble with polls is that they only tell you about the opinions of the 1000 people that were polled, it doesn't tell you their demographic, where they live, or where the polling company got their contact details, therefore taking the results of a few hastily gathered polls as the voice of entire nation would be pretty foolish. For example if I poll 1000 people at a football match on their gender, and then take that as representative of the entire nation, I'm not likely to get an accurate figure of what is actually the reality.

I don't doubt that the SNP might well improve their seat number, although if anyone suggested 40-50, they're utterly mad, perhaps to around 14-16 or so, however there are an awful lot of very safe seats, and  lot of other seats where the SNP aren't even in the top two, whilst there are huge swathes of Scotland where the SNP are loathed. The swing required would be colossal, and given that 55% according to the referendum votes of Scotland doesn't favour their number one objective, getting anywhere close to the projected number of seats seems totally unrealistic.

Laugh  Oh my sides are hurting.

What are Labour and Tories then if the SNP are loathed? Disowned?


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