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Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 11 Apr 2015, 12:14 pm

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by Guest on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:14 pm

He is a world class talent. He was best back row in RC at age of 19 in 2013 And in team of tournament which is immense.

If that's not good I don't know what is ?

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Post by Guest on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:20 pm

There are some real glittering talents out there in rugby at the moment

Mckenzie
Savea
Esterhuizen
Itoje

Are just a few getting plenty of game time and marked for big things

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:33 pm

Yea, you said he was world class which even for you is funny.

Savea is a 7 who makes little to no impact at the breakdown, it's an odd situation as he carries quite well in the wider channels. He's like a back playing flanker.

You could almost field a pack of wannabe wingers.....Croft, Gray, Savea

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:47 pm

Looks like the NZ are stressing a bit with Cruden possibly ruled out of the WC.

With Carter fading over the years and poor this season, will it be Slade or Barrett? Outside shot Sopanga?

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Post by dammit_chris on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:52 pm

Any of Mats players you actually like? Lol.

Carter will be fine for NZ come WC, same as McCaw - big game players and their experience will be vital.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:53 pm

Not as much as Matt obviously lol.....Matera world class....classic Matt!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 6:55 pm

The thing with Carter though is he hasn't turned up for the big games. He's been poor when he's turned out for NZ for 2 years or so.

Lots of NZ fans think he's finished, I'm not so sure I'd go that far.

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Post by dammit_chris on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:03 pm

Matera is a top top player, anyone who watches him can see that - could become a world beater if he avoids injury. It's a game of opinions so each time he says something not sure why there's a need to argue so much. Few people have pointed out recently it gets pretty boring pretty quickly...

Moving on

Some good choices by Healy for player of the season in the AP but doesn't mention Waldroum, BV or Hughes who have all been brilliant.

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/12741750/exeter-chiefs-henry-slade-deserves-place-england-world-cup-squad-says-austin-healey

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:14 pm

I pointed out he's not world class, I think that's a fair opinion.

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Post by Guest on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:33 pm

I think it's that time of the month for him Chris. An embarrassing Wind up attempt.

Carter and Mccaw etc will all turn up. Lots of nz fans glad cruden out as like me they point out he has never performed consistently at int level.
For me his goal kicking defence and temperament are not up to being an all black 10.

Barret a different planet for me and a natural all black

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Post by Guest on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:36 pm

I would add that Barrets first up tacking is still not great but he is a star after that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:39 pm

NZ fans on main board love Cruden.

He's got a crazy 96% win ratio when starting, best FH in world. He's consistently good in an AB Jersey which is something Carter hasn't been for a long time.

Maybe not finished but he's a shadow of his former self. I think you know this or you wouldn't be offering him around Wink

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Post by Guest on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:49 pm

Lol most all blacks have that kind of win ratio. They don't lose often. Most successful sports team of all time FACT.

Cruden is excellent at s15 but after that he does not excel in my opinion and many others.

All blacks are a freak side.

Never had a bad team in memory.

The production line trundles on.

Hard to see a weak position for them except hooker.
Coles and parsons is not the strongest.

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Post by dammit_chris on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 9:14 pm

Sounds like Jamie Roberts is definitely going to Quins - he's had a few comments on twitter from other players teasing him its worst kept secret in rugby. Huge signing for them, they've really struggled in the centres in recent years.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 10:31 pm

Cruden is my player, so I normally try to stay out of the arguing over him, but I have to say I don't know a single All Black fan who is glad that Cruden is likely to miss the World Cup. The majority I have spoken to, in person and online are absolutely gutted, and fully expected him to be first choice at 10 for them for this years Rugby Championship, and with good performances to keep the jersey through to RWC2015.
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Post by dammit_chris on Thu 23 Apr 2015, 10:43 pm

Is there a Rugby Championship prior to the WC? Could make it interesting if any of the SH sides pick up knocks as they are brutal games.

From what I've seen in s15 this year Barrett was pushing Cruden mighty close for the starting 10 shirt but would probably have edged it due to his kicking. Cruden a better player, but ABs need a kicker at no10 as they don't have a back up kicker in their backline.

Shame Cruden will miss the WC, he's great to watch and the ABs are going to miss his restarts massively, they must have a pretty high ratio of taking ball from his kicking there. Don't think anyone else comes close to the standard he sets in that part of his game.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 6:16 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:Cruden is my player, so I normally try to stay out of the arguing over him, but I have to say I don't know a single All Black fan who is glad that Cruden is likely to miss the World Cup.  The majority I have spoken to, in person and online are absolutely gutted, and fully expected him to be first choice at 10 for them for this years Rugby Championship, and with good performances to keep the jersey through to RWC2015.

Bang on Pete, every NZ poster on the main board is a Cruden fan. Why wouldn't they be? He's their first choice 10 and was in great form.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 7:48 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:Cruden is my player, so I normally try to stay out of the arguing over him, but I have to say I don't know a single All Black fan who is glad that Cruden is likely to miss the World Cup.  The majority I have spoken to, in person and online are absolutely gutted, and fully expected him to be first choice at 10 for them for this years Rugby Championship, and with good performances to keep the jersey through to RWC2015.


Read the comments on the herald and planet rugby for example you will see quite a healthy mix of quotes form
Kiwis not keen on him at int level.
Like I say superb at s15 but i can't see how anyone can say he has been consistently good at int level.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 7:49 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Ozzy3213 wrote:Cruden is my player, so I normally try to stay out of the arguing over him, but I have to say I don't know a single All Black fan who is glad that Cruden is likely to miss the World Cup.  The majority I have spoken to, in person and online are absolutely gutted, and fully expected him to be first choice at 10 for them for this years Rugby Championship, and with good performances to keep the jersey through to RWC2015.

Bang on Pete, every NZ poster on the main board is a Cruden fan. Why wouldn't they be? He's their first choice 10 and was in great form.

Lol every poster. Comedy

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 7:55 am

You will find the carter cruden barrert debate in most NZ publications most weeks.

Very much split with probably cruden just about shading majority choice and carter and barret slightly behind.

Last year the calls to drop cruden for barret were massive during the AI's with people accusing Hansen of being too loyal. That's not the sign of someone who has nailed their spot

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:00 am

What sane fan would wish injury on one of their best players and starting fly half?? Absolutely brainless thing to suggest.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:28 am

Where have I said they wished him
Injury??

I said lots are glad he is out of world cup as they did not think he should be starting. Lots believe Hansen has a misplaced loyalty if you compare it to how average crudens int performances have been.

No need for the brainless comments


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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:31 am

How is he considering George smith ??

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_45180,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:36 am

"Lots of nz fans glad cruden out as like me"

Suggesting they're glad he's out is saying they're glad he's injured. Only a idiot fan who knows nothing about the game would want such a thing and I've seen no NZ'er say this.

Is this one of your numerous fabrications?

Anyway Cruden will be sorely missed, Barrett or Slade? I think possibly Barrett but he needs to deliver quickly.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:42 am

Wow really personal!!

Has your life imploded recently as you seem to have become so aggressive and more disagreeable than usual ?

Anyway I have better things to do like work !!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:49 am

How's it personal? I'm not aiming it at you. I'm saying only an idiot fan would want one of their own players injured so he misses a WC.

As far as I'm aware, you're not from NZ are you?

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 8:55 am

Pooly last week you made a big deal of Mat not making personal attacks on you, but if you read your responses...

This is getting a bit silly now, very little point in making comments on the main board.

If you don't agree with something Mat says why don't you just ignore it instead of creating arguments - all adults at the end of the day but people are going to leave the game if this keeps up.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 9:05 am

It's a forum for discussion Chris.

Matt personally attacks me on a regular basis (and you back him up). I've said any fan wishing injury on one of their players is an idiot, Matt is not a NZ fan.

If you could crawl out of Matt's backside for 5mins we could just discuss rugby. At least be impartial once in a while Wink

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 9:15 am

The reason I say it is because this just goes on and on, same thing just repeats and it's boring. Less people post on the main boards and it's a result of all the arguing.

You prove my point with your last post, I'm not actually backing anyone's point other - but if anyone scrolled through your posts a high proportion are just aimed at Mat.

Be great if this was a rugby discussion, but at the moment it just seems like it's for winding people up and getting people to bite over comments and would have liked to believe everyone is an adult on here!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 9:16 am

Let's move on then.....

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Post by BamBam on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 10:11 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/premiership/11560375/Man-who-could-be-the-missing-link-in-Englands-Rugby-World-Cup-squad.html

Good article by Will Greenwood on Elliott Daly .. he makes a compelling case

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 10:58 am

Can't argue with that Bam, defensively Daly has improved a lot as Greenwood mentions and he's a like for like replacement for JJ if he gets injured. Move Tuilagi to 12 and a midfield of Ford, Tuilagi, JJ and bench options of Slade and Daly would start to scare defences.

Healy made similar arguments and was really pushing for Slade to be part of the squad as well.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:00 am

I am a huge fan bam. Daly offers that versatile player we need in a squad. Surely worth a chance ?

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:01 am

I am a huge fan bam. Daly offers that versatile player we need in a squad. Surely worth a chance ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:14 am

Daly in with a shout. He'd get hammered starting 13 but maybe against the lower sides or at 15. With brown injured, 15 is a bit of worry.

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:19 am

Daly didn't have issues with the Toulon midfield, or any in the European Cup this season. He's fine defensively as he showed when marshalling Basteraud away.

When Greenwood, Healy and former international coaches are all calling for him to be given a go then hopefully Lancaster will take note.

Not sure who he'd replace in the squad though - Twelvetrees and Burrell seem at most threat to Slade and Daly, but can't see Lancaster dropping either of those.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:23 am

Can't agree Chris, he has issues and would be targeted.

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:26 am

Will go with Greenwood on this one, he knows a thing or two about centres.

Andy Farrell mentioned Itoje and Slade as bolters that England have on their radar - I don't think we will take any, only time Lancaster has forced his hand is when there have been injuries.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:36 am

All opinions Chris, nobody is more right than anybody else.

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:42 am

Agree with you, I just think Greenwood speaks a lot of sense and value his insight into the game.

With the pack we have we are going to be able to get a lot of possession and set up a good platform to attack, so my opinion is that we can risk it a little in 13 channel defensively and better to have a player there who can attack as opposed to say moving Barritt there to cover if JJ gets injured.

Daly not a guy that smashes people back in the tackle, but at same time won't let you down defensively and has the pace to make up for missed tackles.

Pretty sure that Barritt, JJ and Tuilagi (if fit are nailed down), with Slade, Burrell and Twelvetrees fighting for the last spot - Daly should go ahead of Goode and cover as the utility back.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 11:55 am

He gets ran through too much in the 13 channel for me, he'd struggle against decent teams. I'd be less worried about him at 15.

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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 12:06 pm

Not sure that has been the case this season though? Leinster, Toulon - he's been very good in games against Bath, Saints and Sarries this year as well.

Anyone know when the 45 man training squad is named? Assuming after the AP final.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 12:29 pm

I've seen him struggle a lot but we've done this a million times. He's certainly a fantastic attacking talent that deserves a shot on form.

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Post by BamBam on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 12:36 pm

Has he played much at 15 this year? If so I'd take him over Goode, effectively having Brown, Watson and Daly as our options at full back


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Post by dammit_chris on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:14 pm

He's dropped back a few times Bam, but I dont think he has started any games at no15 for us at all this year as he's a natural no13 and our best creative player. He covers there easily enough, but Watson is a great fullback and having Daly cover pretty much the whole backline would be good for a WC squad.

Wonnder if Wade will get a sniff in the training squad?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:19 pm

Surely he'd only cover 15/13?

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:29 pm

Anybody up for some end of season deals?

All available, WC/EQ needs WC/EQ etc.

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:39 pm

Cooper signs for Toulon: http://www.superxv.com/news/super15_rugby_news.asp?id=46239#.VTo5R1K6mnM

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by Guest on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:30 pm

Maybe not http://www.planetrugby.com

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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:39 pm

Very strange. It's an odd picture to have taken if you're not signing for a club.

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