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Post by Fernando on Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:09 am

Tonight's WWE RAW kicks off with a video package for King of the Ring before going to the usual RAW opening video.

- We're live from Green Bay, Wisconsin with Michael Cole, JBL and Jerry Lawler as the pyro goes off.

- We go to the ring and Eden introduces WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins. He comes out with Kane, Joey Mercury and Jamie Noble. Rollins says Orton found out what everyone else has known for a long time - you cannot outsmart Seth Rollins. Rollins brags on building & destroying The Shield and winning the WrestleMania 31 main event. Rollins says he's proved that he will be a fighting champion. A big "you suck" chant breaks out. Rollins calls his RKO to Orton last night a SKO. Rollins turns and thanks Kane for doing what was best for business last night. Rollins calls Kane the Crypt Keeper and jokingly compares him to the classic character from the 90's. Rollins fumbles his words as Kane looks to be getting upset. Kane says if he would have worked his role last night then Orton would be the champion and Rollins wouldn't be out here whining like the spoiled brat that he is. Kane says he would rather be WWE's version of the Crypt Keeper than WWE's version of Justin Bieber. Rollins says Kane is just jealous and they argue. Randy Orton's music hits and out he comes to a pop. Orton speaks from the stage and they have words. Rollins says Orton had his one shot at the title and squandered it. Orton calls Rollins Catwoman and tells him to shut up. Roman Reigns' music hits next and out he comes through the crowd. Reigns stands on top of the announcers table and declares himself the Last Man Standing. He says The Authority is missing their giant because he buried him at Extreme Rules. Reigns tells Orton all due respect but he's the one who deserves a title shot. Reigns tells Kane he's the one who should be given the shot. Rollins says Reigns and Orton both have lost to him. Kane says he's going to do what's best for business tonight. He says it's time for he and Rollins to put their differences aside to show the real power of The Authority in a tag match. Kane says he will also let the WWE Universe decide Rollins' Payback match tonight.

- Still to come, our first King of the Ring match. Back to commercial.

King of the Ring Match: Dolph Ziggler vs. Bad News Barrett

Back from the break and out comes Dolph Ziggler. We get a sidebar video from earlier where he says Extreme Rules was the most humiliating moment of his career but there will be payback for Sheamus. Bad News Barrett is out next. We get a sidebar video from Barrett also. The bell rings and they go at it. Barrett takes control in the corner and drops Ziggler with an elbow for a 2 count. Ziggler turns it around and sends Barrett to the floor as we go back to commercial. Back from the break and Barrett has Ziggler grounded. During the break, Barrett hit Ziggler with a big boot to take control. Ziggler makes a comeback and Barrett runs into the ring post. Ziggler with more offense and a splash in the corner. Barrett blocks a neckbreaker but misses a boot. Ziggler counters Winds of Change and rolls Barrett up for 2. Barrett goes for Wasteland but it's turned into a DDT for a 2 count. Barrett catches a kick and catapults Ziggler into the turnbuckle. Barrett nails Wasteland for a 2 count. Barrett readies for a Bullhammer but Ziggler ducks and nails a superkick for a close 2 count. Sheamus comes out with a mic as fans boo. He speaks from the stage and reminds Ziggler that there was a full Irish moon last night, showing us a photo from their post-match angle. Ziggler gets upset and turns around to a Bullhammer for the win as Sheamus laughs on the stage.

Winner: Bad News Barrett

- JBL says Triple H isn't here so Kane is in charge. Still to come, Kane and Rollins vs. Orton and Reigns.

- We see The New Day backstage clapping as we go to commercial.

Big E vs. Tyson Kidd

Back from the break and out come new WWE Tag Team Champions The New Day. Xavier Woods and Big E are wearing the titles. Woods takes the mic and declares that they are the champions. Woods thanks all the clappers out there who clapped away their troubles. Woods tries to get them to chant "New Day rocks" instead of "New Day sucks" but it doesn't work. Tyson Kidd is out next with Cesaro and Natalya. Kidd goes to work on Big E to start but Big E overpowers him. Kidd fights in from the apron and kicks Big E in the face. Kidd with a springboard dropkick and more offense in the corner. Kidd with another big kick to the face from the apron. They come back in and Big E nails a big clothesline and Woods holds Kidd's leg down to help with the pin.

Winner: Big E

- We get stills from the Russian Chain Match at Extreme Rules and hype for the I Quit Match at Payback. John Cena will defend the United States Title later tonight.

Ryback vs. Bo Dallas

We go to the ring and out comes Ryback. We go to commercial. Back from the break and out comes Bo Dallas. Bo cuts a promo and they go at it to start the match. Ryback ends up getting the win with his finisher.

Winner: Ryback

- After the match, Ryback celebrates but the lights go out. They come back on but Bray Wyatt is standing behind him. Wyatt drops Ryback with Sister Abigail and turns upside down and poses beside Wyatt.

- Still to come, John Cena will defend. Back to commercial.

- Back from the break and out comes WWE United States Champion John Cena. He talks about Extreme Rules and being a fighting champion, giving Rusev another shot at Payback. He announces the US Open Challenge and out comes Heath Slater to answer the challenge. He comes out for a promo but Rusev appears and knocks him off the stage. Rusev sends Lana to the back and cuts a promo on beating Cena at Payback.

- Backstage segment with The Authority. Fans can vote for Orton, Reigns or Orton and Reigns in a Triple Threat as Rollins' opponent for Payback.

WWE King of the Ring Match: Stardust vs. R-Truth

R-Truth comes out first and we get a sidebar video from him. His first order as King will be to rid WWE of all spiders. Stardust is out next and he also has a sidebar video from earlier. His destiny is to sit on the throne. They go at it and Truth goes for an early pin. Stardust comes back and fans chant "Cody" at him. Truth kicks out of a pin attempt but Stardust keeps control. Stardust with a big kick to the mouth, a stomp and another 2 count. Stardust drops down with a kick to the head for another pin attempt. Truth ends up catching Stardust with a Lie Detector out of nowhere for the win.

Winner: R-Truth

- Voting is now open on the WWE App for the Payback main event. Back to commercial.

Fandango vs. Adam Rose

We come back and Fandango, with his old theme, is out to face Adam Rose. Rose ends up getting the win after Rosa Mendes, dressed as a Rosebud, provided the assist.

Winner: Adam Rose

- After the match, Rosa takes the mic and can't believe Fandango picked the fans over her. She says Rose will love her for the flower that she is. They start kissing and fall on the mat together making out.

- Renee Young is backstage with Brie Bella to discuss the status of Intercontinental Champion Daniel Bryan. Renee asks how concerned she is and when he will be back in the ring. Brie says this has been such a hard time for Bryan and he loves WWE more than anything in the world. She says every day he is out weighs on them, weighs on Bryan. She says only time will tell how long Bryan will be out. She says Bryan cares so much about the fans and... she gets knocked down by Naomi with a shot to the mouth. Naomi says nobody cares about Brie or her husband and walks off.

Brie Bella vs. Naomi

Back from the break and WWE Divas Champion Nikki Bella is out with her sister Brie Bella. Naomi is out next. Brie immediately attacks and takes Naomi down. She connects with a spear and they brawl on the mat. Naomi connects with a cheap shot forearm and takes control. Naomi with a big shot in the corner and a backbreaker for a 2 count. Brie looks to make a comeback but Naomi dropkicks her and talks trash as fans boo. Naomi with a leg drop and a 2 count. Brie turns it around and slams Naomi on her face. Brie keeps control and hits the running knee to the jaw. Brie with a missile dropkick for a 2 count. Naomi with a kick to the face and a roll up for the win.

Winner: Naomi

- Still to come, Reigns and Orton vs. Kane and Rollins.

King of the Ring Match: Dean Ambrose vs. Sheamus

We go to the ring and out comes Dean Ambrose. We go to commercial. Back from the break and we get a sidebar video from Ambrose. Sheamus makes his way out next. We also get a sidebar video from Sheamus on how he will win the tournament. They lock up and go at it. Sheamus takes it to the corner and they trade holds coming back out of the corner. Sheamus drops Ambrose with a shoulder tackle. Ambrose turns it around and ties Sheamus up in a submission. They get up and Sheamus connects with a big right. Sheamus takes it to the corner but Ambrose whips him across the ring and clotheslines him. Sheamus counters a bulldog but Ambrose knocks him through the rope to the floor. Ambrose goes for a dive but puts on the brakes as Sheamus moves out of the way. We go to commercial. Back from the break and Ambrose is fighting back but Sheamus cuts him off with a knee. During the break, Ambrose got sent into the ring post. Sheamus with a big modified suplex and boos from the crowd as he poses. Sheamus kicks Ambrose in the head and keeps up the offense. Ambrose comes back with the big rebound clothesline and they both go down. Sheamus cuts him off with another big slam. Ambrose dodges a Brogue Kick and rolls Sheamus up for 2. Ambrose sends Sheamus into the ring post. Ambrose nails a dive to the floor and they both go down again. Ambrose brings it back in the ring and goes to the top for the elbow drop while Sheamus is standing but he rolls through. Sheamus with a backbreaker and a 2 count. Sheamus goes for White Noise but it's countered for a 2 count. Ambrose gets blocked and Sheamus locks in the Cloverleaf submission. Ambrose makes it to the bottom rope and breaks the hold. Sheamus tries for the forearms on the apron but Ambrose fights back and goes to the top, this time hitting the elbow drop while Sheamus is standing for a 2 count. They brawl on the floor and Ambrose nails him off the annoucne table. Ambrose sends Sheamus into the ring post. Sheamus nails a Brogue Kick on the floor. Dolph Ziggler runs out and attacks Sheamus for the disqualification.

Winner by DQ: Sheamus

- Sheamus runs off through the crowd and Ziggler chases but comes back to ringside. Ziggler is fired up and walks off as we go to replays.

- Voting is still open on the WWE App for the Payback main event. Still to come tonight, Kane and Rollins vs. Orton and Reigns. Back to commercial.

- Back from the break and we see a clip of Summer Rae turning on Damien Sandow to help The Miz last week. Sandow is in the ring and fans cheer him. Sandow introduces himself and says he's never going to come out here and lie to the fans. He says he came to WWE with a blue bath robe three years ago with the idea he would enlighten everyone. He says we know how that ended. Sandow says he was told to his face that he's not entertaining enough and fans boo. Sandow says what followed wasn't him losing his mind, it was a quest to entertain - he shows us some of his impersonations like Bret Hart, Magneto, LeBron James and Vince McMahon. He brings up the Mizdow character and fans boo. He says Mizdow caused him to lose a lot of respect among his peers but he gained something that means more - the respect of the WWE Universe. Sandow says the connection he has with the fans is the most valuable thing he can have as a WWE Superstar. He thanks fans and says without them, he wouldn't be here. A "thank you Sandow" chant starts and he says they're welcome. The music interrupts and out comes Curtis Axel. Axel tells us not to change the channel because Axelmania is running wild. Axel says he can't stand a guy who doesn't know who he is and is trying to be someone else. Sandow mocks Axel and he gets upset. Axel orders Sandow to get out of the ring and fans boo. Sandow mocks him again. Axel charges and Sandow fires back with right hands. Sandow with a big boot. Sandow looks to drop the big leg drop but hits the Elbow of Disdain instead. Sandow sends Axel out to the floor as his new theme song hits.

- Bray Wyatt is backstage with a promo for Ryback. He says what happened tonight was just the beginning and tells Ryback to run. Back to commercial.

- Back from the break and we see some Tough Enough audition videos.

King of the Ring Match: Neville vs. Luke Harper

We go to the ring and out comes Neville with a big entrance. We get a sidebar video with Neville talking about the tournament, even mentioning Owen Hart. Neville says he will defy gravity to become King of the Ring. Luke Harper is out next. They lock up and Neville tries to an early roll up. They run the ropes and Neville sends Harper to the floor. Neville ends up hitting a hurricanrana from the apron to a big pop. They come back in and Harper turns it around. We go to commercial with Harper in control. Back from the break and Neville fights out of a headlock. Harper charges and Neville sends him through the ropes. Harper comes back in and misses a big boot in the corner, landing back on the floor. Neville goes to the apron and kicks Harper in the mouth. Neville with the big moonsault to a pop. Neville brings it back in the ring and hits a springboard dropkick. Neville keeps on but Harper cuts him off and takes control. Neville blocks a powerbomb and hit a German suplex. Neville with a big kick to the head but Harper catches him with a sitdown powerbomb for 2. Harper with uppercuts in the corner. He takes Neville up to the top but Neville ends up powerbombing him to the mat. Neville goes to the top and hits Red Arrow for the win.

Winner: Neville

- After the match, Neville celebrates as we go to replays.

- Voting is still open on the WWE App for the Payback main event.

Roman Reigns and Randy Orton vs. Kane and Seth Rollins

It's time for the main event as Roman Reigns makes his way out through the crowd. We go to commercial.

Back from the break and out comes Randy Orton to a pop. Kane is out next followed by WWE World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins with Joey Mercury and Jamie Noble. Kane and Rollins shake hands before heading to the ring together. The bell rings and a Justin Bieber chant breaks out at Rollins. Rollins and Reigns start things off. Rollins goes to the floor for a breather early on. He talks with Kane and J&J before coming back in. They go to lock up and Rollins unloads with kicks. Reigns catches Rollins in a big tilt-a-whirl slam. Reigns works Rollins over in the corner and tags in Orton for some double teaming. Orton drops Rollins over the top rope and stomps him. Orton drops a knee as fans chant RKO. Orton with an uppercut and tag to Reigns. Rollins slides out of a move and goes back to the floor. He comes back in and tags in Kane. Kane with a headlock on Reigns. Reigns turns it into a sideslam. Reigns with a big right hand and tag to Orton as they keep Kane in their corner. Orton takes Kane to the other corner with more strikes. Kane drops Orton with a big boot. Kane takes Orton to the corner and unloads as Rollins comes back in. He stomps away in the corner and tosses Orton to the floor. Noble gets a cheap shot in as we go to commercial. Back from the break and Rollins has Orton down on the mat. Orton fights back but Rollins slams him by his neck for a 2 count. Kane applauds Rollins as he keeps control of Orton. Orton comes back with a t-bone suplex out of nowhere. Kane and Reigns tag in at the same time. Reigns unloads and takes Kane to the corner with a bunch of forearms and a right hand. Reigns comes off the second rope with a big shot. Reigns with a Samoan Drop on Rollins. Reigns sends Rollins and Kane both over the top rope. Reigns runs the ropes but Noble distract the referee and Mercury grabs his leg. Kane nails Reigns and shoves him into the ring post.

Kane brings it back in and Rollins tags in to keep Reigns down. They trade shots in the middle of the ring and Rollins drops Reigns for a 2 count. Kane comes back in and slams Reigns for a 2 count. Orton ends up getting the hot tag and chaos breaks loose. Rollins dodges the RKO and rolls Orton up for 2. Everyone ends up on the floor and Rollins dives out but they move and he barely hits Kane, landing hard on the floor. Kane snaps and sends Mercury and Noble over the announce table. He decks Rollins with a right hand and rolls him back in the ring. Reigns nails a Superman punch and Orton hits the RKO on Rollins. Orton covers for the win.

Winners: Randy Orton and Roman Reigns

- Kane was tearing apart the announce table as the match was ending. Orton's music hits and they celebrate as Kane looks on and we go to replays. Kane takes the mic and is ready to reveal who Rollins defends against at Payback. Orton looks on from the stage and fans voted for Rollins to defend against both Reigns and Orton in a Triple Threat. Rollins doesn't like this and turns around to a big Superman punch as Kane and Orton looks on. RAW goes off the air with Reigns celebrating.

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Post by Prometheus on Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:09 am

When I was a kid, I used to watch the Adam West Batman TV series. Every so often, The Riddler would pop up, say something that no-one other than Batman could work out, think himself really clever for doing that, then ultimately get caught by the Bat. Now, I watch Bray Wyatt occasionally show up, say something that no-one cares to work out and then get beaten.

Without taking him off air for some time, I personally feel this is Wyatt's last chance. And I don't even think that coming out of a feud against Ryback with a win is enough, I think he needs to turn Ryback, relaunch his cult leader status and add a monster to his fold. If he did that, and then quite quickly added a couple of jobbers, then I think he could become relevant again.

I was surprised that Stardust didn't go over R-Truth. I was, slightly surprised that either were in this tournament, as I don't think of them as upper mid-carders. Though I can see that WWE would like Stardust to be that.

Going back to watching TV growing up. When wrestling was on, you'd typically have one or two squash matches, a nothing match and then some kind of main event with a fully over character. Fandango and Adam Rose take me back to those days of the nothing match.

Anyone else see a story where Reigns wins at Payback and Rollins becomes Mr Money in the Bank again at the following PPV?
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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:27 pm

Naomi's boot were on point. I can really get behind light up colour changing boots.

Line of the Night goes to Mr Ambrose for shouting at the referee "I DIDNT DO ANYTHING! FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE IT WASNT ME!" Give that man the world title. Im glad Neville won, but its a shame we wont see Mad Kind Ambrose Targaryen. Look at a final four of BNB, Truth, Sheamus and Neville, im pretty sure Neville will win now. Which isnt a bad thing by any means.

Other than that, another average Raw. The quality of the matches, especially the KotR matches was pretty good, but I still dont care about anything happening outside the two main stories.

Rusev NEEDS to be the man to make Cena quit. I cant put into words just how much this will make or break him.

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Post by Prometheus on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:35 pm

I agree that the winner should be Neville. I know that in WWE things can change very quickly, but re-creating a tournament and having him go over some of their established stars within a month of being in Raw should point to a very bright future for Neville.

If its not him, I think it has to be Sheamus. I don't know what the problem with Barrett is. He is great on the mic, he has a look (which he has polished while away), he is obviously real life tough. And yet, when did he last put on a great match? I know he gets injured a lot, but he should be capable of working better matches than he does. Truth, must be coming to the end of his career.
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Post by Crimey on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:43 pm

Can't believe they did the same thing with Ryback that they did at the PPV, but had Wyatt interrupt this time instead of at the PPV...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:33 pm

Why is Lana suddenly an attention seeker? She went from hating the fans to liking the attention she was getting, even though she'd always got that attention.

I'd rather Wyatt stayed well clear of the cult leader thing.

Nice to give Sandow a little speech, although I think if anything it was just him saying goodbye to any relevancy he had.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:42 pm

Did nobody else cringe when JBL said Owen Hart was a high flier and Booker said he couldn't defy gravity. They were completely innocent comments as they'd compared Owen to Neville, but so unfortunate. Not surprised, but a little saddened, that people have given Booker some stick on social media. Was so obviously a mistake, so clearly forgetting for a second how someone they will have known died in such circumstances. I think it's nice that they could innocently bring the man up in comparison, not let his name being something to fear referencing, but I'd guess we can expect more silence on it now people have reacted.

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Post by Prometheus on Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:48 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Why is Lana suddenly an attention seeker? She went from hating the fans to liking the attention she was getting, even though she'd always got that attention.
What I dislike more about this is that Lana went from being the controller to the controlled. When Lana and Rusev were first working, she was the voice that would make him "crush", or was the only one who could make him break the Accolade. Now, it is her that Rusev is ordering around. I thought the former was more quirky and had more long term value. I understand that if you want you can trace this "development" back through the Cena feud, but I think they were better before where she really came over as the "evil" Russian who had this brute doing her bidding


I'd rather Wyatt stayed well clear of the cult leader thing.
I must admit I'm not 100% into the idea either. But I just think there is something that he needs to be different. There was the platform for this, that Wyatt would defeat opponents by getting in their head, but it appears that was too bigger concept for WWE to tackle. Now he just randomly calls people out and loses.


Nice to give Sandow a little speech, although I think if anything it was just him saying goodbye to any relevancy he had.
Its a real shame that they blew off the Miz angle so limply. On paper Sandow offers a lot. He's not a bad worker, his mimicry skills are great. He's good on the mic. But he just doesn't seem to have "it". I hope he finds another character that works. I think in years to come if he sticks in the business he'd be an excellent commentator or manager.
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Post by Prometheus on Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:50 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Did nobody else cringe when JBL said Owen Hart was a high flier and Booker said he couldn't defy gravity. They were completely innocent comments as they'd compared Owen to Neville, but so unfortunate. Not surprised, but a little saddened, that people have given Booker some stick on social media. Was so obviously a mistake, so clearly forgetting for a second how someone they will have known died in such circumstances. I think it's nice that they could innocently bring the man up in comparison, not let his name being something to fear referencing, but I'd guess we can expect more silence on it now people have reacted.

Yeah. He said the wrong thing. It was live and as far as I'm concerned he was talking about wrestling and it was really, really unfortunate what he said. We all know that his brain and mouth aren't always impeccably wired up, but I'd say he's feeling pretty bad for letting that one out. He apologised on Twitter straight after Raw.
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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:01 pm

Is it bad that the first thing that went through my mind when Naomi told Brie that 'No one cares about you OR your husband', I immediately thought she got that wrong, and no one cares about HER or HER husband?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:18 pm

You don't care about Tyson? I love Tyson!

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Post by Crimey on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:18 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You don't care about Tyson? I love Tyson!

She's married to Jey Uso.

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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:22 pm

Wrong diva.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:30 pm

Ooops, read that too quick. All these divas are pretty interchangeable. I care more about Naomi than I do Brie, and I like Jey Uso. This is unfair! U-so crazy, Samo.

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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:33 pm

Ah, but do you like Naomi and Jey more than Daniel Bryan?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:46 pm

I don't even like them more than I like Tyson Kidd.

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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:51 pm

Naomi < Brie < Jey < Kidd < Naomis' Boots < Bryan

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:52 pm

Brie is my least favourite diva in there, even more than Rosa. I don't trust Rosa to know any better, but Brie should know that Brie mode is depressing. Plus, Naomi got back.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:02 pm

Although the Owen thing did make me think of how Booker must have reacted after the realised what he'd said.


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Post by Samo on Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:52 pm

Why is Heath Slater STILL using the 3MB music?

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:19 pm

The quality of matches were all very good. But the storyline telling is just so boring at the moment. Might give up watching raw and just check spoilers then watch the ppv's on the network. All becoming to boring.

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Post by JoshSansom on Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:41 am

I really do switch off during Bray's rambling promos now, which is a real shame. Think he needs a big change in his approach, would not be averse to him forming a duo with Bo Dallas if they can find a way to stop Bo being a joke. Could see an angle where it is taken as a form of schizophrenia... obviously I hope this would be approached and handled in the right way, but think it could be legitimately chilling.

In terms of Lana I think that the WWE realise that a) she is popular and b) they can make some cash from her so want to split her from Rusev and also ensure he has heat on himself. Agree with the comments that the I Quit match is such a bad move, it overexposes him to three successive PPV losses (Cena will never in his entire career lose an I Quit match imo) and will make him come out of it much weaker. The best option following it would be for him to go on an extended absence, some vignettes "emerge" around June time of him in a Russian training camp to come back a more impressive specimen etc...

In terms of Sandow I found him amusing, he really is a great comedy actor and also has good mic skills. Think he will have a solid mid card position but more of a lower mid card role, replacing the Santino comedy angles maybe.

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:46 pm

Raw drew an average of 3.75M viewers in the US on Monday. That is down from 5.36M for the Raw after WrestleMania.

There was competition from basketball, but this is not a great number.

And I think Vince has to be really careful about the silent majority of his viewers. After the Rumble when there was the #CancelWWENetwork, Vince was quick to write this off, saying that these people would be watching it again next week. And the odds are they will. The odds are that those who care enough to take to Twitter are probably hooked on wrestling that they will tune in again the following week. But I think there are a lot of viewers who say nothing but don't turn on again. And that's really a problem for WWE.

To me, personally, Raw has gone from must have viewing through nice to have to, something that I nearly watch as a special if I see enough good comments about it.
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Post by Samo on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:18 pm

The ratings for RAW wont go back up until Vince bites the bullet and accept that 3 hour RAW's are killing the product. It wouldnt make it perfect by any stretch, but its a start.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:32 pm

Ratings or dollar? 3 hour probably makes them the money they need to work through the Network uptake period.

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Post by Samo on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:37 pm

Thats a short term solution to a long term problem. Its all well and good getting ad revenue to fund the Network uptake, but less and less people will subscribe if their main draw product, being RAW, is dogshit.

Get RAW to a level where you feel you cant miss a show, and people will give you $9.99 hand over fist to get an unmissable PPV show.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:28 pm

Push guys fans want to see and dont force it, if something or someones rise is organic then run with it, whether they fit the mould or not in your opinion, give the fans what they want and it will attract more viewers, don't try and recreate it with someone you feel the audiance should like.

I personally don't think 3 hours should be a bad thing, it should be a great thing but the WWE are far to formulaic


When RAW moved to two hours back in 96/97 they split it into two shows, they had Monday Night RAW on the first hour and Warzone as the second hour, they'd often change commentatora as well, that for me was a brilliant idea, RAW kicked it off and they often gave ha a hook that they'd run with and hype leading into Warzone, so simple but so effective, it really paced up the shows - Vince needs to take a look at his own play-book, somethings that worked back in the day simply wouldnt work now but things like this are a no-brainer, with guys like Corey Graves who is awesome, Renne Young and Byron Saxton they have talent available to do that and mix it up a bit

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:47 pm

I'm not saying its right, I'm saying theres business and numbers to think of.

KF is right, three hours isnt automatically a bad thing and if anything should actually allow them time to give everything focus. Its not even that everything they do is wrong, but they do most things on a cycle so theres no change. Tough s*** that Graves or Riley might have to fly a lot to get on, they would definitely be prepared to do it. Its a shame Jason Alberts is now a trainer because he was a cracking color commentator and my favourite across any show. Get people interested in matches on Raw by giving some sort of indication of where a win can take them.

At the moment the Divas division actually has the most clear path of logic in its booking. Thats a worry. Don't have people vote on who is the number one contender. If you have to, and this is the weirdest thing i'm gonna say, but theres actually an interesting model to follow from...Strictly Come Dancing. Performances combine with votes to get points.

The bottom of the card is something they could make so much better with ease. Leagues and tournaments that give a reason for Fandango to fight Rose. They earn a shot at Cena, Bryan. Or they earn a match with a number one contender. They could even set out a story where these people are being "dropped" from performing on Raw or Smackdown if they don't make tag partners and impress.

Make people earn their spots to MITB or Elim Chamber.

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Post by Crimey on Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:33 am

Also let's not forget, WWE wasn't great before the switch to 3 hours anyway.

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Post by Samo on Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:38 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
The bottom of the card is something they could make so much better with ease. Leagues and tournaments that give a reason for Fandango to fight Rose. They earn a shot at Cena, Bryan. Or they earn a match with a number one contender. They could even set out a story where these people are being "dropped" from performing on Raw or Smackdown if they don't make tag partners and impress.

Like TNA's Bound for Glory series?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:51 pm

Best thing TNA does. Long said I love Bound For Glory as an idea. TNA manage to screw it up, but the idea is very good.

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