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Post by Hero on Thu 21 May 2015, 8:59 pm

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:38 pm

I was expecting a pen to be given then the way this is going.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:38 pm

And thats a dive, luckily I think Henderson realises as he starts going down so gets himself up. I can fully live with someone realising their mistake.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:39 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Just found out the Bourenmouth back 4 was the same back 4 that finished the 2012/13 league one season! That's nuts!

Find that out from a Mark Chapman retweet? Haha I just saw that on twitter and was amazed, both impressed and worried.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:39 pm

Lallana tries to tear Elphick's shirt off in the box. Liverpool FK censored

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Post by westisbest on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:41 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
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Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Thats an offside. Coutinho makes the movement. More officials who don't know the rules

Glad it was given, not a fan of that rule either.

If someone is offside and moves to kick the ball then surely they should be offside?

Understand what your saying, could do with changing the rule, he was offside but didn't score.

Benteke was on side and scored.

Think it should be on the player that actually scores.

No doubt we will have a few of those goals against us this season, so i must remember to not moan Wink

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:47 pm

HT Liverpool 1-0 Bournemouth (should be the other way around)

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Post by lfc91 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:53 pm

Can understand what Rodgers is going for, starting with the exact same line up that got the win against Stoke. However, I came away from that match thinking we won it IN SPITE of Lovren/Lallana playing. Noway should either be on, and they prove it with their first half performances. Brutal.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:02 pm

To be fair, apart from the initial 10 mins, Liverpool have been well on top. Referee has made a few mistakes, but based on the game itself I think 1-0 is pretty much fair enough. Coutinho has been fantastic, think he's a contender for player of the year this year, adding more dimensions to his game all the time, controlling from a bit deeper this game. 

Good to see Benteke get his first goal, always important to get it early I feel.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:08 pm

That is by far your most bias Liverpool comment in 606v2 history Crimey

Coutinho player of the year after 2 games - Please tell me that's a joke Laugh

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:09 pm

Can on for Henderson

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:11 pm

Fernando wrote:That is by far your most bias Liverpool comment in 606v2 history Crimey

Coutinho player of the year after 2 games - Please tell me that's a joke Laugh

Can't have seen Citeh play surely
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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:18 pm

Ritchie hits the post with a thunderous drive.

Josh King off for Lee Tomlin.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:18 pm

So Bournemouth get a goal ruled out shirt pull and Cook gets pulled down by Skrtel no pen Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:19 pm

Bournemouth really deserve something from this
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Post by lfc91 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:20 pm

They look like they will get something.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:21 pm

Surely Sakho and Toure are better than Lovren
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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:21 pm

After two clean sheets; Chris Smalling is my pick for player of the year.

The new offside interpretation seems perfectly reasonable to me, any player in an offside position who affects the defence in any way should be called for offside.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:22 pm

No they don't, Olly, Liverpool deserve to be 7-0 up through 6 well earned Coutinho goals.

Crimey's comment reminds me of this very good joke piece by Jacob Steinberg today http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/17/chelsea-football-clubs-resounding-200-0-victory-over-manchester-city?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:23 pm

Have you read the the match report on the Chelsea site Dolph it's utterly hilarious almost like Maureen wrote it.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:25 pm

Fernando wrote:That is by far your most bias Liverpool comment in 606v2 history Crimey

Coutinho player of the year after 2 games - Please tell me that's a joke Laugh

I'm sorry didn't we have a big thread about making predictions on this very board, including one question for 'Player of the Year'. That's all it was, a prediction, based on a multitude of factors such as his form at the end of last season, two good games this year, being one more year older which at his age usually comes with improving, being a bigger part of the side with Sterling and Gerrard gone. It's not at all ridiculous to suggest he has a shout at being Player of the Year, he was nominated for it last year. 

I also don't think it's unfair to say that Liverpool deserved to be ahead based on the first half, Bournemouth were good initially but over the half Liverpool took control and Bournemouth just weren't getting forward.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:25 pm

Fernando wrote:That is by far your most bias Liverpool comment in 606v2 history Crimey

Coutinho player of the year after 2 games - Please tell me that's a joke Laugh

I think he means 2015 as a whole rather than the 2015/16 season ... I hope!

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:27 pm

20 people said who they thought would be Player of the Year before a ball had been kicked, but me saying it a couple of games in is somehow more ridiculous?

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:29 pm

If you had said in 2015 it wouldn't of been so bad but your comment made it sound like these 1st 2 games only...Also just cos you have control doesn't mean you deserve to be 1-0 up if that was the case Arsenal get hard done by on a weekly basis.

Theirs are a prediction though yours doesn't appear to be.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:29 pm

Who deserves to be ahead on the balance of play (no such thing) and who should be ahead were it not for two poor refereeing decisions are different things. Bournemouth deserve to be ahead and there's not really any way that can be disputed.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:30 pm

Honestly, I couldn't give two shiny turds who deserves to be ahead. It's who is ahead that counts Very Happy
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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:32 pm

Fernando wrote:If you had said in 2015 it wouldn't of been so bad but your comment made it sound like these 1st 2 games only...Also just cos you have control doesn't mean you deserve to be 1-0 up if that was the case Arsenal get hard done by on a weekly basis.

Theirs are a prediction though yours doesn't appear to be.

I don't know it could have been taken as anything other than a prediction. I didn't realise I had to clarify that it wasn't based on 2 games, I assumed that would be taken for granted.

I just think Liverpool have played fairly well and Bournemouth may have been hard done by with the refereeing decisions but unfortunately that happens and I think Liverpool have done a decent job of keeping them under wraps.


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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:32 pm

Gomez booked.

Liverpool needing bad decisions to beat Bournemouth

#Top4NoChance Laugh

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:33 pm

I'll bear that in mind next time United are the beneficiaries of poor decisions Hampo.

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Post by Duty281 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:34 pm

Liverpool leading the race for fifth place as it stands!

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Post by PaulHv2 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:35 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I'll bear that in mind next time United are the beneficiaries of poor decisions Hampo.

More than welcome to mate, the only thing that counts is what the score says in the top left hand corner at the end of the day.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:35 pm

"May have been hard done by with the refereeing decisions"

Laugh
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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:35 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Who deserves to be ahead on the balance of play (no such thing) and who should be ahead were it not for two poor refereeing decisions are different things. Bournemouth deserve to be ahead and there's not really any way that can be disputed.

Except the latter doesn't exist either. Refereeing decisions change games, and had Bournemouth scored after 5 mins the game would have been totally different, Liverpool may have pushed on harder to score. It's a completely hypothetical position. In general though, in football, people do discuss the balance of play and generally in football results do follow the balance of play, hence why the biggest teams have to have the most possession. Obviously it is not a concrete rule, but as a general rule it is actually pretty accurate.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:38 pm

Adam Smith coming on for Bournemouth for Max Gradel, Strange move he's sh*t Laugh

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:38 pm

If those decisions had been the other way around, which does happen, no team is exempt from poor decisions, this forum wouldn't be complaining as much. I get that Bournemouth are popular because they're smaller club with a good manager and a decent philosophy but I can't guarantee with the positions switched the Liverpool fans would be told to suck it up.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:38 pm

Moreno on for Coutinho.

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Post by lfc91 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:39 pm

WTF!!! Why is our best player coming off and Lallana stays on???

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:40 pm

Those decisions wouldn't be reversed that's the point, they only went the way they did because it's Bournemouth against Liverpool, not in a million years do City, Chelsea or Arsenal have that goal disallowed.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:41 pm

Hard not to be impress by Gomez. Looks like a real find.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:41 pm

Moreno on for Coutinho.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:42 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Those decisions wouldn't be reversed that's the point, they only went the way they did because it's Bournemouth against Liverpool, not in a million years do City, Chelsea or Arsenal have that goal disallowed.

It's an absolute myth that smaller clubs are hard done by. Bad refereeing happens to every club at every level. There have been plenty of times where bad decisions have made against big clubs.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm

It isn't a myth at all, there is a clear bias towards the bigger teams.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:44 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Hard not to be impress by Gomez. Looks like a real find.

And he's not even a LB! Serious talent
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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm

Dan Gosling on for O'Kane

Liverpool only had 2 shots on target out of 18 Erm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:45 pm

Crimey wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Those decisions wouldn't be reversed that's the point, they only went the way they did because it's Bournemouth against Liverpool, not in a million years do City, Chelsea or Arsenal have that goal disallowed.

It's an absolute myth that smaller clubs are hard done by. Bad refereeing happens to every club at every level. There have been plenty of times where bad decisions have made against big clubs.

Lol if you actually believe this
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Post by GSC on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:47 pm

Olly wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Those decisions wouldn't be reversed that's the point, they only went the way they did because it's Bournemouth against Liverpool, not in a million years do City, Chelsea or Arsenal have that goal disallowed.

It's an absolute myth that smaller clubs are hard done by. Bad refereeing happens to every club at every level. There have been plenty of times where bad decisions have made against big clubs.

Lol if you actually believe this

Basically. A bad decision that denies Man Utd is analysed to death on SSN and others. Against West Brom its a footnote.
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Post by Fernando on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:53 pm

FT Liverpool 1-0 Bournemouth.

Can't beat a little side like Bournemouth without the ref & lino helping. Could be a long season for you guys if don't get better.


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Post by PaulHv2 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:53 pm

Fernando wrote:FT Liverpool 1-0 Bournemouth.

Can't beat a little side like Bournemouth without the ref & lino helping. Could be a long season for you guys if don't get better.


Stop fishing you tart.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:53 pm

A complete injustice that - Bournemouth exceptional, deserved at least a point
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Post by Duty281 on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:54 pm

Bournemouth mugged of a point, at least, by some poor officiating; similar to Palace yesterday.

A long season for Liverpool awaits, I think. They certainly won't hit top four this season.

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Post by Crimey on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:56 pm

Decent from Liverpool, still struggling to put away chances but already look more creative than last year and people actually getting into the box. 3 points is 3 points and Bournemouth were unlucky with decisions but that's life unfortunately. 

Hopefully Can will start against Arsenal, don't fancy a midfield of Henderson and Milner being able to protect the back four.

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