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Post by msp83 on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 5:08 pm

Australia are to play a couple of tests in the West Indies before the summer Ashes. Australia would be finalizing the makeup of the side and get going after the WC win, they will be playing their first test in almost 5 months. Fawad Ahmed, the legspinner is a chance to make his debut in the first test if the track could turn significantly.
As for the West Indies, they fought hard in the England series, and would be hoping to more of the same against Australia. It is the start of a new era for them, as Shiv Narine Chanderpaul's test career is all but over as he was axed for poor form in the last 2 series he played. The only regular test player from their IPL contingent, Chris Gayle is smashing it all over England and so the opening combination remains a problem and now they'll have to find someone who can step in for Chanderpaul.
Hope the West Indies would fight and make the series interesting enough.

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 8:33 pm

the pitches in WI are relatively docile...always giving some chance to the home team...that has some good spinners.

Aus however will win 1-0 or 2-0.....
Chris Rogers is out defaults them to Shaun marsh opening ...which is a long term solution.

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Post by msp83 on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 9:30 pm

Harris isn't playing this series, he'll be back for the Ashes.

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Post by alfie on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 2:13 pm

Australian batting being reorganized a bit ; will be interesting to see how West Indies go after their encouraging last match against England.
Fancy the Australia pace attack will be a big much for them ; but we will see how the pitches turn out...

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 2:17 pm

I was quite impressed with the West Indies compared to say a year or two earlier. Ambrose is bringing a bit of steel into that side and I am sure Australia won't have it all their own way.
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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 2:35 pm

So Windies win the toss and bat. Will be interesting to see Australia with the new ball

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 2:42 pm

West Indies Team
KC Brathwaite, SD Hope, DM Bravo, MN Samuels, SO Dowrich, J Blackwood, D Ramdin*†, JO Holder, JE Taylor, D Bishoo, ST Gabriel

Australia Team
DA Warner, SE Marsh, SPD Smith, MJ Clarke*, AC Voges, SR Watson, BJ Haddin†, MG Johnson, MA Starc, NM Lyon, JR Hazlewood

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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 4:03 pm

An hour in and Aus seamers have not looked good. Brathwaite out playing a defensive prod to a ball at least a foot wide of off stump.

The constant chirping from Haddin has re-inforced for me just how much i admire thway NZ play their cricket.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 7:25 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:I was quite impressed with the West Indies compared to say a year or two earlier. Ambrose is bringing a bit of steel into that side

looking at the scorecard now(137-8)...it appears WI are where they always were....only Eng fell closer to their levels Smile
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 8:01 pm

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CaledonianCraig wrote:I was quite impressed with the West Indies compared to say a year or two earlier. Ambrose is bringing a bit of steel into that side

looking at the scorecard now(137-8)...it appears WI are where they always were....only Eng fell closer to their levels Smile

Or quite simply they relapsed to bad old habits ie sloppy shots which they did have V England getting away with a lot of them. It happens.
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Post by kingraf on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 8:04 pm

Got to remember, like the English side to a degree. this is a young Windies side. Awful performances like this will happen from time to time
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Post by kingraf on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 8:18 pm

4/5 on Marsh to be next out... I'll take it thank you.
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Post by kingraf on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 8:40 pm

kingraf wrote:4/5 on Marsh to be next out... I'll take it thank you.

And with that... Warner was duly dismissed. Didn't out much on it. But don't think I've ever had a bet backfire that quickly ever
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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 03 Jun 2015, 10:05 pm

Raf where do you stand on odds for marsh making less runs as an opener on tour than trott did?

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:19 am

So a 13 wicket day, and I would say Australia are slightly ahead. The West Indies batting was their usual awful self, getting bowled out for 148. Shai Hope, a middle order bat converted into an opener, top scored with 36. Jason Holder made 21 and that was next best. Hazelwood and Johnson taking 3 each and acouple of wickets to Mitchell Starc.
Australia in response were 85-3 at stumps. They lost the big wickets of Warner and Clarke and the makeshift opener Shaun Marsh. But Steven Smith was still there and we all know he loves situations like these. With him was Adam Voges, making his test debut at the young age of 35. Wicket each for Taylor, Holder and Bishoo.
WI would be hoping they can get Smith early and then dismiss the Australians not too far away from their score. All that the Australians would need is one partnership, and they have Starc slated to come in at 9.......

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 11:43 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:I was quite impressed with the West Indies compared to say a year or two earlier. Ambrose is bringing a bit of steel into that side

looking at the scorecard now(137-8)...it appears WI are where they always were....only Eng fell closer to their levels Smile

Or quite simply they relapsed to bad old habits ie sloppy shots which they did have V England getting away with a lot of them. It happens.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 3:35 pm

Bishoo gets Smith early!. Massive wicket that for the West Indies.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 3:48 pm

Now Bishoo spins out Watson!. Australia 112-5, the WI are still in it.......

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Post by kingraf on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 3:56 pm

Lol. Windies fighting back hard. If they keep the lead less than 50, they have a fighting chance. Especially as they should have the best of batting conditions, if they get Aus out quick enough
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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 3:58 pm

Australia bat deep though with Mitchell Starc coming in at 9.

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Post by kingraf on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:01 pm

They certainly do. But the West Indies have to think of rolling through them from here. Any hesitance because of Aus' long batting line up will cost them dearly.
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Post by kingraf on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:07 pm

A day on from discussing how deferred the dream of finding a decent leg spinner in test cricket is, Bishoo is weaving a masterclass. To be fair, Asutralia have probably taken over England for the mantelpiece of not being able to play spin for love or money.
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Post by VTR on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:14 pm

kingraf wrote:A day on from discussing how deferred the dream of finding a decent leg spinner in test cricket is, Bishoo is weaving a masterclass. To be fair, Asutralia have probably taken over England for the mantelpiece of not being able to play spin for love or money.

Hang on, we aren't handing it over so easily! Didn't you see us get bowled out by Kane Williamson the other day? Please retract your comments!

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:22 pm

Bishoo took out Haddin with an absolute ripper!!. Johnson and Voges now, Australia 133-6, only 15 away from the WI total

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:25 pm

I am expecting an Australian counterattack any time!

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 5:26 pm

KP_fan wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:I was quite impressed with the West Indies compared to say a year or two earlier. Ambrose is bringing a bit of steel into that side

looking at the scorecard now(137-8)...it appears WI are where they always were....only Eng fell closer to their levels Smile

Or quite simply they relapsed to bad old habits ie sloppy shots which they did have V England getting away with a lot of them. It happens.

Yes i believe you Wink
Well we shall see if Australia can get a lead of 100 after the first innings like England managed. From what we have seen so far I am closer to the truth than you or perhaps Australia aren't as good as being painted?
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Post by kingraf on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 5:38 pm

Or maybe neither of you are right and the Windies have actually improved?
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:10 pm

Kingraf I did say that in my original post on this thread.
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Post by kingraf on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:16 pm

Fair enough. Your conversation with Kpf seemed to float more towards "Are England or Asutralia more Poopie at the moment", rather than appreciating Windies improvements
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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:24 pm

After taking his 6th and Australia's 8th wicket, Devendra Bishoo had to go off the field for some treatment on his finger. He's now back on, Australia meanwhile moving on to 196-8. Voges on debut, going strong at one end.......

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:25 pm

The Australian lead almost 50 already. Think that is decisive already.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:26 pm

The problem for the West Indies is that with the older ball, only Bishoo looked like taking a wicket. The others haven't bowled too badly, but they haven't asked enough questions of the batsmen.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 6:34 pm

Bishoo is back on the field but Ramdin continues with his favorit spinner Marlon the great!.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:10 pm

I haven't seen Bishoo's spell but the mere thoughts are fascinating.....the dismissal of Haddin must have been a ripper.

I dunno how the pitch is playing....if it is spinning and in Lyon and Smith they have one good and one better than a part timer

a 90 to 100 run lead in a low scoring game might be hugely decisive
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:12 pm

and what an inning on debut from Voges
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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:23 pm

Australia building a significant advantage in the context of the game. This should be good enough for at least 3-4 WI wickets.......

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:26 pm

Jerome Taylor is the WI's best bet with the new ball. Who does skipper Ramdin throw the 2nd new ball to? Holder and Gabriel!!. like #strausslogic, perhaps #ramdinlogic?

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:28 pm

and i juts saw a ball from gabriel popp off a good length.....and another one dug in short that did not rise and hit him on the helmet

I have a suspicion that this pitch is bordering on  under-prepared and every run is worth 2 runs.
and batting on D2 is already much more difficult than D1


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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:34 pm

selection of likes of Rogers, Voges, Harris in the Aussie squad shows that they don't live in what's a ludicrous notion " building the team for the future"

they pick whoever is in good form for a series....and age is a a mere number
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:39 pm

msp83 wrote:Australia building a significant advantage in the context of the game. This should be good enough for at least 3-4 WI wickets.......

WI may have a fight on hands to survive an innings defeat.

it's a very hard task to play cricket when facing two 95mph bowlers on an "up n down" pitch
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:42 pm

Voges looks a very correct batsman....low back lift,  gripping bat unusually high......plays bat very close to the body and very straight batted...generally a front foot player, and head right on top of the ball when defending...or driving

it's his technique that has stood out on this pitch...it's rare to see someone play so correctly and almost entirely on the front foot. He even pulls offf the front foot...merely transferring the weight back.
technically correct and straight guys like Dravid , Pujara, Trott, Kallis, Amla are all genberally back foot players.
his height and "standing tall" allows him to play otherwise back foot shots off the front foot ..merely transferring the weight back


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Post by KP_fan on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 7:47 pm

what an inning....what an "unorthodoxly" correct batsman...and they made him wait until 35 to hand him a debut
and how he responded 100 on debut on a pitch where it's worth 200 and the ONLY diffrence between two sides so far
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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 8:07 pm

Think the West Indies moment in the game has come and gone. Won't be surprised if the Australians win by an innings from here on....... Voges playing a fabulous hand on a demanding pitch, and the last wicket partnership is building. First Ramdin didn't use Taylor with the new ball, when he came on he did produce a chance that was promptly dropped by Shai Hope. This could be a long partnership here. Hazelwood took a blow early on, but has stuck it out there, its been a fine supporting act from him so far.......

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 8:22 pm

The last wicket partnership just goes on. Australia 280-9.

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Post by msp83 on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 9:01 pm

Australia 310-9. Voges given out LBW of Bishoo but he has successfully reviewed. The pain continues for the West Indies.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 9:15 pm

Finally all out for 318.  Didn't quite make century last wicket partnership, but match turned decisively in Aussies favour - and they won't mind having bowl at the (possibly demoralised) Windies for a few overs this evening.

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Post by msp83 on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 9:36 am

West Indies closed on 25-2 with both their openers back in the hut. An innings defeat pretty much on the cards. Poor Devendra Bishoo!!!

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Post by VTR on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 9:41 am

What a debut innings from Voges! I am with msp on the innings defeat, or very close here.

Well bowled Bishoo though, the ball that got Haddin is one for the archives, the perfect dismissal!

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Post by kingraf on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 2:10 pm

Disturbingly poor bowling from the Windies at the tail. What on earth was Samuels doing bowling that many overs against a tram on the ropes?!
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Post by msp83 on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 4:56 pm

Denesh Ramdin thinks Marlon Samuels is the West Indies version of Murali with the ball!.
Anyways he's batting with greater sense than what is on usual display as the West Indies are trying to weather the early loss of Darren Bravo.
They are 97-3.......

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