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Post by Mr H on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 1:34 pm

Alright benders, long time no speak. Something has been bugging me and I need to get it off my chest, I might get slaughtered for it but here goes....

Kevin Owens. I'm struggling to see what all the fuss is about. I don't like his look, I don't find him particularly charismatic, and I don't think he's particularly great on the mic.

I expect I'm in the minority here. Perhaps he'll grow on me like Ambrose did. I really didn't get him but I'm fully converted now.

Anyway, feel free to share any other unpopular opinions you might have.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:00 pm

You're wrong. And ugly.

The New Day were always heels, and marks were marks and fell for it.

Wade Barrett isn't very good at anything.

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Post by Samo on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:10 pm

I like the Ascension.

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Post by Adam D on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:15 pm

I dont respect Dave Meltzer. Seems an unpopular opinion on here.

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:26 pm

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Wade Barrett isn't very good at anything.


He was great at banging a gavel and saying "I've got some bad news for you" sometimes from a lofty position. Unfortunately everything else he isn't really good at. It's one of those I find hard to fathom. He has a good physique, he's obviously legitimately tough and he can be a good talker. But, his current position or jobber with a crown is probably just about right for him.
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Post by Samo on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:29 pm

I feel bad for Barrett because everytime he got close to breaking out he got injured, to the point they wont take any more chances with him.

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Post by Prometheus on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:35 pm

But it's hardly like he comes back from injury and you think 'this is a guy who should be pushed'. I'm bored of him and Sheamus clogging up those mid-card big guy positions, where I actually have to admit that Sheamus is better than Barrett.

3 big(ish) events Barrett has been in this year, the Mania IC ladder match, the KotR tournament and the Elimination Chamber. 3 mediocre performances, IMO depsite winning one of them.

He's 'dropped' from MitB isn't he?
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Post by Samo on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 2:43 pm

Prometheus wrote:
He's 'dropped' from MitB isn't he?

You mean from the Ladder match? He was never in it IIRC.

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Post by Mr H on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 3:50 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:You're wrong. And ugly.

The New Day were always heels, and marks were marks and fell for it.

Wade Barrett isn't very good at anything.

I'm gonna tell my mum. And you're uglier.

Did anyone actually think they were faces then?

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Post by liverbnz on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:24 pm

Chris Jericho is boring and that's been the case since 1999 at least.

Dolph Ziggler is in the correct place on the card in spite of poor booking.

The iron man match between Bret and Shawn was exciting.


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Post by Samo on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:27 pm

liverbnz wrote:

The iron man match between Bret and Shawn was exciting.


Told a good story, but not the right story for the first Iron Man match.

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Post by Adam D on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:28 pm

TNA has the most consistantly good wrestling show on TV right now

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Post by Mr H on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:56 pm

Samo wrote:
liverbnz wrote:

The iron man match between Bret and Shawn was exciting.


Told a good story, but not the right story for the first Iron Man match.

That's only in hindsight though. At the time as a kid, and without any kind of wrestling knowledge (I still don't have any) I really enjoyed it.

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Post by Mr H on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:57 pm

Adam D wrote:TNA has the most consistantly good wrestling show on TV right now

Have you been drinking Adam?

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Post by Adam D on Thu 04 Jun 2015, 4:59 pm

Mr H wrote:
Adam D wrote:TNA has the most consistantly good wrestling show on TV right now

Have you been drinking Adam?

No more than usual

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Post by Crimey on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 1:32 am

I agree on Kevin Owens

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 2:22 am

Finn Balor's entrances have all been awful so far.

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Post by Crimey on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 5:31 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Finn Balor's entrances have all been awful so far.

I agree with this as well. It's unique, but very very silly.

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Post by Samo on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 7:40 pm

Balors Demon is the best entrance in the company right now by some distance.

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Post by TopoftheChops on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 9:05 pm

The booking of john cena as us champ has been the best in his career

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 11:27 pm

Samo wrote:Balors Demon is the best entrance in the company right now by some distance.

Why? Its just a bit odd. He looks in no way intimidating.

I don't find Balor all that special anyway, but the entrances are a real sticking point.

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Post by Guest on Fri 05 Jun 2015, 11:33 pm

Rollins is one of the worst champions the WWE has ever had, if they put half as much effort as booking him as a champion than as a heel the product would instantly be better than it is

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Post by Hero on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 12:03 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Samo wrote:Balors Demon is the best entrance in the company right now by some distance.

Why? Its just a bit odd. He looks in no way intimidating.

I don't find Balor all that special anyway, but the entrances are a real sticking point.

I like the entrances, I don't get why they'd be intimidating though, Id just think he was one of those cosplay geeks.

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Post by Prometheus on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 8:52 am

I can buy Finn's entrance as intimidating. He's bringing a demon to the ring, not just another wrestler, there's something other-worldly that his opponent should fear, a beast with a huge mouth.

My biggest issue would be that he then dispenses with that and wrestles as a normal wrestler, to whom the entrance may not have happened. So, for those main event occasions where he enters as the demon, I'd really like him to have something he can pull out of his bag of tricks at some point in the match that shows us that the demon is within him when he wrestles those big occasions.

WWE is as much about theatrics and pyro and big entrances as in ring performances. There's many occasions in the past where I've enjoyed the Undertaker's entrance more than his matches. So, I think Balor has something with this that marks him out.
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Post by Samo on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 9:23 am

Its a huge spectacle saved for special occasions. I love the way it all fits together, the lights, the movement, the music, it all comes together. Plus, he's always adapting the costume and either altering or adding paint, and the wings added at the last Takeover.

Theres no one else has an entrance with as much gravitas as the Demon.

To add to Proms point - if The Demon beats Owens for the title after losing as just Finn Balor, that could be the moment that solidifies the Demon as another entity.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 12:50 pm

I like Balor's enterance can't stand that stupid fn head dress though

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 06 Jun 2015, 2:12 pm

Yeah, I don't agree at all. He just looks like a Muppet.Systt, Taker, I can see why those have an impact. Balor is just prancing around. It's been used too much already too.

The desperation to back Balor...

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Sun 07 Jun 2015, 1:55 am

Adam D wrote:TNA has the most consistantly good wrestling show on TV right now

They went a bit 'off the rails' this week for me drumroll

I'd agree that generally TNA has been pretty good on a consistent basis but I don't think it has touched NXT and ROH on their better weeks, and overall I think Lucha Underground is a better week to week show, also despite not being new content NJPW on AXS is combining some modern classic matches with a quality English commentary

I think John Cena has been the MVP of Raw this year


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